Do most UVA choose UVA over privates?

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Anonymous wrote:Evidenced by UVA's ~30% yield rate, most do not choose it when admitted

And? That’s to be expected when kids who apply to UVA are also applying to the likes of Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Princeton, etc. But against schools like Georgetown, Notre Dame, etc. it likely fared better than you think

You do realize that Notre Dame has a 60% yield (without ED, which Virginia — rare for a state school — has). For oos kids, Virginia is a backup to USC (a very hot school), Georgetown, Notre Dame etc.

Nobody wants to pay 62k tuition for an oos school if they have equal or better options. Certainly I would spend 6k more for a private, anytime. Remember that US News overrates state schools. Think of UVA as more on par with NYU. Not the same level for oos as the likes of Notre Dame….

There is a reason UVA’s oos yield is abysmal.

Abysmal? I would think "predictable" is a better term. In state students are subsidized by OOS students. If UVA OOS is being cross-shopped against a private, it may likely be at a disadvantage on net price. Obviously it is at a cost disadvantage on cost if the other school is an in-state public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our high school sends so many kids to UVA every year. I know some kids probably ED. I’m wondering if UVA is mostly their first choice or if they didn’t get into a better school so they pick UVA over similarly ranked private (Georgetown, NYU, USC, Tufts, BC). I’m from the Northeast so New England privates were very popular as well as NYU for kids not quite Ivy material.

If you live in the Commonwealth, yes UVA over a private is a no-brainer.

People outside VA aren't clamoring to go to UVA.

Yes they are, idiot. Last year there were 51k OOS and international applicants versus 15k in state.

I've noticed UVA people are often very angry people.

UVA's OOS yield is comparable to GMU's.

NP. Not sure if it's angry or defensive. The booster on this thread also appears to have a limited vocabulary which is surprising (stupid, idiot etc).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Evidenced by UVA's ~30% yield rate, most do not choose it when admitted

And? That’s to be expected when kids who apply to UVA are also applying to the likes of Harvard, Stanford, Duke, Princeton, etc. But against schools like Georgetown, Notre Dame, etc. it likely fared better than you think

You do realize that Notre Dame has a 60% yield (without ED, which Virginia — rare for a state school — has). For oos kids, Virginia is a backup to USC (a very hot school), Georgetown, Notre Dame etc.

Nobody wants to pay 62k tuition for an oos school if they have equal or better options. Certainly I would spend 6k more for a private, anytime. Remember that US News overrates state schools. Think of UVA as more on par with NYU. Not the same level for oos as the likes of Notre Dame….

There is a reason UVA’s oos yield is abysmal.

Abysmal? I would think "predictable" is a better term. In state students are subsidized by OOS students. If UVA OOS is being cross-shopped against a private, it may likely be at a disadvantage on net price. Obviously it is at a cost disadvantage on cost if the other school is an in-state public.

Predictable? Compare UVA oos yield to Berkeley, UCLA, Texas, Michigan, UNC. It’s abysmal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The yield rate at UVA is only as high as it is because of ED. Before that, its yield was even lower.

This can be said about many selective schools that offer ED. Try again.

Other than William and Mary, I am unaware of any selective state schools with ED. In that sense, UVA is unique.

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Anonymous wrote:The yield rate at UVA is only as high as it is because of ED. Before that, its yield was even lower.

This can be said about many selective schools that offer ED. Try again.

Except for the fact that even after UVA began using ED, its yield rate still trailed the other top publics.

With ED:

Virginia 42%

Without ED:

Michigan 47%
UCLA 52%
Berkeley 45%

“The average admission yield of the last 11 years is 40.07% where the current academic year yield is 42.00%. The following table and chart illustrate the changes in yield at University of Virginia-Main Campus from 2013 to 2024.”

ED at UVA helped the yield rate considerably. It’sjust not as desirable to OOS students as a school like Michigan





Michigan 47%

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UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

UVa is basically a brand new school. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded before the US was a country. Far less prestigious historically and does not compare to actual ivies. Your new kid on the block public is random and weird. Publics are not ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

UVa is basically a brand new school. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded before the US was a country. Far less prestigious historically and does not compare to actual ivies. Your new kid on the block public is random and weird. Publics are not ivies.

What an uneducated statement. UVA was founded by Thomas Jefferson, author of the declaration of independence and a founding father of the United States of America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

UVa is basically a brand new school. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded before the US was a country. Far less prestigious historically and does not compare to actual ivies. Your new kid on the block public is random and weird. Publics are not ivies.

What an uneducated statement. UVA was founded by Thomas Jefferson, author of the declaration of independence and a founding father of the United States of America.

Predictably you say nothing to refute my point. UVa does not have the history of Harvard or Yale. It has a totally different and more recent history, taking place exclusively in the post-colonial period. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded hundreds of years ago. I don't know the exact year but I suspect the University of Virginia's date of founding is closer to that of Northeastern or Boston University's than the top ivies.

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Additionally, the Ivy League is an athletic conference whose members are exclusively private universities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They choose UVA because it's cheap!

Cheap to some, still a big chunk of money for others, even if it is in-state.

Our DD is at UVA, we are MC by NoVA standards, so UVA is by no means “cheap” (donut hole family). She knew from the get-go we could only afford in-state tuition. She has met many very wealthy out of state peers, and we are grateful to them for paying that expensive tuition!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

UVa is basically a brand new school. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded before the US was a country. Far less prestigious historically and does not compare to actual ivies. Your new kid on the block public is random and weird. Publics are not ivies.

Why is the age of UVA vs Ivies so important? Stanford was founded in the late 1800s. I would assume we all here consider it a prestigious university.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

UVa is basically a brand new school. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded before the US was a country. Far less prestigious historically and does not compare to actual ivies. Your new kid on the block public is random and weird. Publics are not ivies.

Why is the age of UVA vs Ivies so important? Stanford was founded in the late 1800s. I would assume we all here consider it a prestigious university.

It's being mentioned because UVa does not and can not be compared to those universities which are members of the Ivy League. No one tries to call Stanford an Ivy because its reputation alone is sufficient for recognition and acclaim. UVa is not an Ivy in any regard.

[Anonymous]

i sense some state on state crime here

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA is a Public Ivy with Grounds being recognized as a World Heritage site. The University’s only flaw is a mediocre football team.

UVa is basically a brand new school. Harvard, Yale, Princeton were founded before the US was a country. Far less prestigious historically and does not compare to actual ivies. Your new kid on the block public is random and weird. Publics are not ivies.

Why is the age of UVA vs Ivies so important? Stanford was founded in the late 1800s. I would assume we all here consider it a prestigious university.

It's being mentioned because UVa does not and can not be compared to those universities which are members of the Ivy League. No one tries to call Stanford an Ivy because its reputation alone is sufficient for recognition and acclaim. UVa is not an Ivy in any regard.

What a laughable argument. UVA has passed W&M even though they were founded first. Is Hampden Sydney an Ivy since it was founded in 1775, about the same time Dartmouth was founded?