Do most UVA choose UVA over privates?

[Anonymous]

Our high school sends so many kids to UVA every year. I know some kids probably ED. I’m wondering if UVA is mostly their first choice or if they didn’t get into a better school so they pick UVA over similarly ranked private (Georgetown, NYU, USC, Tufts, BC). I’m from the Northeast so New England privates were very popular as well as NYU for kids not quite Ivy material.

[Anonymous]

The latter. It’s more that the trend these days is to go out of state and even cross country for college. State universities all the way to Berkeley are put on the back burner to private colleges

[Anonymous]

If you can get in, it’s a great option and more cost effective than going to Georgetown or BC. Very difficult for your average UMC White or Asian student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you can get in, it’s a great option and more cost effective than going to Georgetown or BC. Very difficult for your average UMC White or Asian student.

What do you mean very difficult? Very difficult for UMC or Asian student to get acceptance to a better school than UVA?

UVA is an excellent school and my child will also apply next year. This is not my child’s preference at all. I’m trying to sell him on it because the other top schools he likes are so selective. My kid is a high stat kid but nothing extraordinary. He isn’t nationally ranked in anything. He does have perfect grades, high test scores and strong extracurriculars.

[Anonymous]

The ability to go to what is considered a public Ivy for an in state price while being within driving distance from home….this is why it’s at the top of the list for many.

Most local High Schools send only a handful due to how difficult it is to get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our high school sends so many kids to UVA every year. I know some kids probably ED. I’m wondering if UVA is mostly their first choice or if they didn’t get into a better school so they pick UVA over similarly ranked private (Georgetown, NYU, USC, Tufts, BC). I’m from the Northeast so New England privates were very popular as well as NYU for kids not quite Ivy material.

For in state kids it is often a top choice because it is affordable and a great school.

[Anonymous]

Public Ivy > Ivy

[Anonymous]

All three of my kid wanted to go out of state and explore, so UVA and VT went to the bottom of the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you can get in, it’s a great option and more cost effective than going to Georgetown or BC. Very difficult for your average UMC White or Asian student.

What do you mean very difficult? Very difficult for UMC or Asian student to get acceptance to a better school than UVA?

UVA is an excellent school and my child will also apply next year. This is not my child’s preference at all. I’m trying to sell him on it because the other top schools he likes are so selective. My kid is a high stat kid but nothing extraordinary. He isn’t nationally ranked in anything. He does have perfect grades, high test scores and strong extracurriculars.

And that might not be enough to get into UVA if you are UMC and from NOVA. That was the original point. Kids like this are dime a dozen.

[Anonymous]

Only you know what you can afford. Many families have told their kids from the beginning that the state school price tag is all that is available. If that is the case, uva is a great option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The ability to go to what is considered a public Ivy for an in state price while being within driving distance from home….this is why it’s at the top of the list for many.

Most local High Schools send only a handful due to how difficult it is to get in.

40-45% of apps from the two private schools near us get in to UVA, leading to about 20% of the entire senior class getting in to UVA, about 1/3 of whom are ED. It is not that difficult to get in for those who are securely in the top 10% of the class, with only 2 students in 12 years who made the 10% cutoff yet got waitlisted. The top 10% mostly gun for ivy/stanford/duke and near-ivy privates(washU , Vanderbilt, uchicago). The only people in the top 10% who pick Uva who did not ED are the rare ones who are shut out of better privates. They arent all rich either, many parents brag erroneously at the “merit” they got that made ivy cheaper than uva in state.
Other DMV privates are similar or send even more to Uva thus in those settings uva is not seen as pretigious in state. For top private schools in the northeast uva Oos is viewed better but still is a backup to ivy/+. Students and parents chase selectivity and prestige it is human nature. For middle of the pack students uva is a big reach and is viewed as impossible, despite it being relatively easy to get in for students already at the top. It is all perspective.
In reality the students themselves at UVA overlap at the top with “average” students at ivies, but the larger spread in student ability at uva could make it much easier for the ones who could have gone ivy to shine. We arehoping DS25 will consider uva for these reasons but he has his sights on ivy/t15 and will likely pick one over uva. His counselor at high school said uva is 99% chance so it is a safety for him and the handful of kids at the top of 2025. They share gpa, he is 4th right now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our high school sends so many kids to UVA every year. I know some kids probably ED. I’m wondering if UVA is mostly their first choice or if they didn’t get into a better school so they pick UVA over similarly ranked private (Georgetown, NYU, USC, Tufts, BC). I’m from the Northeast so New England privates were very popular as well as NYU for kids not quite Ivy material.

our scior sorts by year and there are only 70-80 grads, pretty easy to tell which dot is who. the top kids (cum laude)only pick uva if they do not get in better schools. The ones who get in to top 20 privates or WAS level lacs always go there over uva.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our high school sends so many kids to UVA every year. I know some kids probably ED. I’m wondering if UVA is mostly their first choice or if they didn’t get into a better school so they pick UVA over similarly ranked private (Georgetown, NYU, USC, Tufts, BC). I’m from the Northeast so New England privates were very popular as well as NYU for kids not quite Ivy material.

our scior sorts by year and there are only 70-80 grads, pretty easy to tell which dot is who. the top kids (cum laude)only pick uva if they do not get in better schools. The ones who get in to top 20 privates or WAS level lacs always go there over uva.

Same for our school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The latter. It’s more that the trend these days is to go out of state and even cross country for college. State universities all the way to Berkeley are put on the back burner to private colleges

Do you have any actual data supporting this “trend“ or are you just pulling it out of your ass? Just curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ability to go to what is considered a public Ivy for an in state price while being within driving distance from home….this is why it’s at the top of the list for many.

Most local High Schools send only a handful due to how difficult it is to get in.

40-45% of apps from the two private schools near us get in to UVA, leading to about 20% of the entire senior class getting in to UVA, about 1/3 of whom are ED. It is not that difficult to get in for those who are securely in the top 10% of the class, with only 2 students in 12 years who made the 10% cutoff yet got waitlisted. The top 10% mostly gun for ivy/stanford/duke and near-ivy privates(washU , Vanderbilt, uchicago). The only people in the top 10% who pick Uva who did not ED are the rare ones who are shut out of better privates. They arent all rich either, many parents brag erroneously at the “merit” they got that made ivy cheaper than uva in state.
Other DMV privates are similar or send even more to Uva thus in those settings uva is not seen as pretigious in state. For top private schools in the northeast uva Oos is viewed better but still is a backup to ivy/+. Students and parents chase selectivity and prestige it is human nature. For middle of the pack students uva is a big reach and is viewed as impossible, despite it being relatively easy to get in for students already at the top. It is all perspective.
In reality the students themselves at UVA overlap at the top with “average” students at ivies, but the larger spread in student ability at uva could make it much easier for the ones who could have gone ivy to shine. We arehoping DS25 will consider uva for these reasons but he has his sights on ivy/t15 and will likely pick one over uva. His counselor at high school said uva is 99% chance so it is a safety for him and the handful of kids at the top of 2025. They share gpa, he is 4th right now

Name the schools. You do not know that much data about two different schools. Just name them. Put your money where your mouth is.