Hate towards H1-B visa holders

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop complaining. This is what you voted for.

No, I didn't.

Just sick of working long hours for months to complete a huge project which was a success, by the way, and getting nothing for it. Meanwhile the execs walk away with all the $$ knowing it's gotten very difficult for us to find other jobs. Getting paid below market rate is better than no job at all. That's partly why we haven't been replaced.

You elected the billionaires.

[Anonymous]

Well Musky and Bannon boy are fighting now lol

[Anonymous]

This is all ironic given Elon overstayed his visa in the first place.

[Anonymous]

I don't really think this is the self own some here think it is. MAGA responses to Ramaswamy have been defending American culture and workers *including* some saying that black American workers should have access to American jobs before foreign workers. This is counter to the narrative that all MAGA are white nationalists.

If Trump voters continue down this path of protecting and favoring America first for Americans of all races, Democrats can kiss the blue collar workers goodbye for a long time. This is how Trump won hispanic men. This is why Bernie's message for the working class resonated with Trump voters and why some AOC voters split their vote for her and Trump.

The wildcard will be to see how Trump responds. If he sides with American workers on this issue this will be a movement. The argument is no longer illegal immigrants take the jobs Americans won't do (which was always BS drummed up by businesses), now they are talking about importing cheap labor to take your $100k + white collar job. They want to import indentured servants to suppress wages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think this is the self own some here think it is. MAGA responses to Ramaswamy have been defending American culture and workers *including* some saying that black American workers should have access to American jobs before foreign workers. This is counter to the narrative that all MAGA are white nationalists.

If Trump voters continue down this path of protecting and favoring America first for Americans of all races, Democrats can kiss the blue collar workers goodbye for a long time. This is how Trump won hispanic men. This is why Bernie's message for the working class resonated with Trump voters and why some AOC voters split their vote for her and Trump.

The wildcard will be to see how Trump responds. If he sides with American workers on this issue this will be a movement. The argument is no longer illegal immigrants take the jobs Americans won't do (which was always BS drummed up by businesses), now they are talking about importing cheap labor to take your $100k + white collar job. They want to import indentured servants to suppress wages.

So you mean MAGA voters are now going to support the position other people have been telling them was in their interest all along? The one they voted against?

And somehow you think folks would be against this as opposed to saying I told you so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are not the best and brightest they are cheapest and dumbest

The difference between h1-b and college graduates is work experience.
You have to be on top of your game, know the technology and learn fast, not get involved in offline politics and definitely not complain.
Salary is low, but on the bright side college education is not as expensive abroad as here, so you are most likely to not have a student loan anymore

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think this is the self own some here think it is. MAGA responses to Ramaswamy have been defending American culture and workers *including* some saying that black American workers should have access to American jobs before foreign workers. This is counter to the narrative that all MAGA are white nationalists.

If Trump voters continue down this path of protecting and favoring America first for Americans of all races, Democrats can kiss the blue collar workers goodbye for a long time. This is how Trump won hispanic men. This is why Bernie's message for the working class resonated with Trump voters and why some AOC voters split their vote for her and Trump.

The wildcard will be to see how Trump responds. If he sides with American workers on this issue this will be a movement. The argument is no longer illegal immigrants take the jobs Americans won't do (which was always BS drummed up by businesses), now they are talking about importing cheap labor to take your $100k + white collar job. They want to import indentured servants to suppress wages.

So you mean MAGA voters are now going to support the position other people have been telling them was in their interest all along? The one they voted against?

And somehow you think folks would be against this as opposed to saying I told you so.

Well no, not quite. Democrats opened the border and allowed millions of workers in who compete for jobs and suppress wages. All of the propaganda about illegal immigrants taking jobs Americans don't want, building America, etc. were talking points pushed by the wealthy that middle class people parroted for years. Working class people who actually had to compete with immigrants for work knew better. All the while democrats were gaslighting and calling you xenophobic if you pointed out what was right in front of you. The only reason people have a problem with it now is because they aren't just coming for janitorial, lawn maintenance and nanny jobs anymore. Now they're coming for jobs we've been told for years that Americans will do.

I think you (and the Democratic party) have fundamentally misunderstood that for some, voting for Trump has been about American workers. Yes there are portions of his voters that are white nationalists but there are many who actually believe in America first for Americans of all colors. Yes Trump is a billionaire and benefits from cheap labor but he was the only one to acknowledge foreign workers as a threat to American workers. So which do you pick as a voter? The guy who at least acknowledged the problem or the party who is actively allowing millions to flood in and then gaslight you when pointing out that they are taking jobs and overwhelming your schools*, hospitals and other services?

*Prominent democrats don't send their children to the public schools most voters have to use, so they are fine with flooding them with foreign kids with varying levels of formal education. American kids are absorbing the impact of these policies and people are tired of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think this is the self own some here think it is. MAGA responses to Ramaswamy have been defending American culture and workers *including* some saying that black American workers should have access to American jobs before foreign workers. This is counter to the narrative that all MAGA are white nationalists.

If Trump voters continue down this path of protecting and favoring America first for Americans of all races, Democrats can kiss the blue collar workers goodbye for a long time. This is how Trump won hispanic men. This is why Bernie's message for the working class resonated with Trump voters and why some AOC voters split their vote for her and Trump.

The wildcard will be to see how Trump responds. If he sides with American workers on this issue this will be a movement. The argument is no longer illegal immigrants take the jobs Americans won't do (which was always BS drummed up by businesses), now they are talking about importing cheap labor to take your $100k + white collar job. They want to import indentured servants to suppress wages.

So you mean MAGA voters are now going to support the position other people have been telling them was in their interest all along? The one they voted against?

And somehow you think folks would be against this as opposed to saying I told you so.

Well no, not quite. Democrats opened the border and allowed millions of workers in who compete for jobs and suppress wages. All of the propaganda about illegal immigrants taking jobs Americans don't want, building America, etc. were talking points pushed by the wealthy that middle class people parroted for years. Working class people who actually had to compete with immigrants for work knew better. All the while democrats were gaslighting and calling you xenophobic if you pointed out what was right in front of you. The only reason people have a problem with it now is because they aren't just coming for janitorial, lawn maintenance and nanny jobs anymore. Now they're coming for jobs we've been told for years that Americans will do.

I think you (and the Democratic party) have fundamentally misunderstood that for some, voting for Trump has been about American workers. Yes there are portions of his voters that are white nationalists but there are many who actually believe in America first for Americans of all colors. Yes Trump is a billionaire and benefits from cheap labor but he was the only one to acknowledge foreign workers as a threat to American workers. So which do you pick as a voter? The guy who at least acknowledged the problem or the party who is actively allowing millions to flood in and then gaslight you when pointing out that they are taking jobs and overwhelming your schools*, hospitals and other services?

*Prominent democrats don't send their children to the public schools most voters have to use, so they are fine with flooding them with foreign kids with varying levels of formal education. American kids are absorbing the impact of these policies and people are tired of it.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't really think this is the self own some here think it is. MAGA responses to Ramaswamy have been defending American culture and workers *including* some saying that black American workers should have access to American jobs before foreign workers. This is counter to the narrative that all MAGA are white nationalists.

If Trump voters continue down this path of protecting and favoring America first for Americans of all races, Democrats can kiss the blue collar workers goodbye for a long time. This is how Trump won hispanic men. This is why Bernie's message for the working class resonated with Trump voters and why some AOC voters split their vote for her and Trump.

The wildcard will be to see how Trump responds. If he sides with American workers on this issue this will be a movement. The argument is no longer illegal immigrants take the jobs Americans won't do (which was always BS drummed up by businesses), now they are talking about importing cheap labor to take your $100k + white collar job. They want to import indentured servants to suppress wages.

So you mean MAGA voters are now going to support the position other people have been telling them was in their interest all along? The one they voted against?

And somehow you think folks would be against this as opposed to saying I told you so.

Well no, not quite. Democrats opened the border and allowed millions of workers in who compete for jobs and suppress wages. All of the propaganda about illegal immigrants taking jobs Americans don't want, building America, etc. were talking points pushed by the wealthy that middle class people parroted for years. Working class people who actually had to compete with immigrants for work knew better. All the while democrats were gaslighting and calling you xenophobic if you pointed out what was right in front of you. The only reason people have a problem with it now is because they aren't just coming for janitorial, lawn maintenance and nanny jobs anymore. Now they're coming for jobs we've been told for years that Americans will do.

I think you (and the Democratic party) have fundamentally misunderstood that for some, voting for Trump has been about American workers. Yes there are portions of his voters that are white nationalists but there are many who actually believe in America first for Americans of all colors. Yes Trump is a billionaire and benefits from cheap labor but he was the only one to acknowledge foreign workers as a threat to American workers. So which do you pick as a voter? The guy who at least acknowledged the problem or the party who is actively allowing millions to flood in and then gaslight you when pointing out that they are taking jobs and overwhelming your schools*, hospitals and other services?

*Prominent democrats don't send their children to the public schools most voters have to use, so they are fine with flooding them with foreign kids with varying levels of formal education. American kids are absorbing the impact of these policies and people are tired of it.

Not gonna lie, I agree with almost everything you wrote, and have had that silly argument with many of friends about immigrants doin jobs Americans won’t do. And yet I still could not vote for Trump. Democrats need to listen to the people, and not just the ones in their echo chambers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In 2024 Tesla laid off 14,500 employees then turned around and requested 2400 H1 Bs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/csMajors/s/2ODZlCiQ5n

Suckers.

+1
My dad worked for a really long time for a major IT company. This is exactly what he saw too - existing staff being laid off and then visa workers being brought in. It’s a total lie that these workers are needed. Program should be dramatically scaled back not given unlimited visas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are not the best and brightest they are cheapest and dumbest

The difference between h1-b and college graduates is work experience.
You have to be on top of your game, know the technology and learn fast, not get involved in offline politics and definitely not complain.
Salary is low, but on the bright side college education is not as expensive abroad as here, so you are most likely to not have a student loan anymore

It is not unreasonable to expect tech firms to have some on the job training vs insisting everyone they hire have prior experience.

[Anonymous]

I’m confused by this because it makes sense that the program is being abused but Elons point about needing to hire talent for AI development that just isn’t available in the US is a serious concern sounds reasonable as well.

[Anonymous]

I think the public debate on X is a sign of a very healthy democracy. It is good thing. It should be celebrated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stop complaining. This is what you voted for.

No, I didn't.

Just sick of working long hours for months to complete a huge project which was a success, by the way, and getting nothing for it. Meanwhile the execs walk away with all the $$ knowing it's gotten very difficult for us to find other jobs. Getting paid below market rate is better than no job at all. That's partly why we haven't been replaced.

You elected the billionaires.

No, I voted for Kamala.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m confused by this because it makes sense that the program is being abused but Elons point about needing to hire talent for AI development that just isn’t available in the US is a serious concern sounds reasonable as well.

Are they telling the truth about not having enough talent here?