Colleges with happy kids

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Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest. Superb academics. Beautiful campus. Happy students. Parents dream.


I was a scholarship kid there and left. If you aren’t rich, white, and preppy and don’t have tons of money to blow on the weekends, it’s not for you.


I am finding hard to believe that someone who received one of their coveted scholarships left because you are walking about from close to 400k. Also not sure on the money element because my kid has spent almost no money while there. The kids stay on campus to eat and work out so really no expense there and social life revolves around greek scene where again no money spent. We were nervous about money but have heard more complaints from friends whose kids spent a lot on restaurants and bars which can quickly differentiate the haves and have nots. Everyone lives on campus so also no differentiating between who has better apartment including decorations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When we visited Penn State, nearly every kid we saw was wearing Penn State gear and were plastered with smiles. They also claim to have happy cows that make the best ice cream.

If only it weren't in the middle of nowhere


No, this is not accurate - it’s very easy to get lost and depressed in the massive sea of students. I’ve known many Penn state main students who dropped out or transferred out. It’s going to get bigger now that they are closing branch campuses (most but not all)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Gettysburg- it’s literally impossible to go there and not be happy. Every grad I have ever met is successful and happy in life - it’s crazy


I have to agree. I wish I’d forced my kids to apply there. It is in the middle of nowhere though, with no train station, so it didn’t make the cut.
Anonymous
As a mom of a hs senior, I am also probing this question and trying to sift through contradictory info. We see emory listed as a school ranked high on having happy kids, but when we ask people with kids there now, they say there's a lot of high-pressure pre professional angst and that social life is dead and kids to go georgia tech for parties. What is the truth???
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the whole thread, but I would agree with Syracuse and Penn State.

Right now, mental health issues are so severe and pervasive. It really depends on all of our kids, more than it depends on any one school. I think kids with mental health issues should be guided AWAY from the pressure-cooker schools and into more loving/supportive environments. But many of them and many of their parents are so guided by prestige.

Kids need to remember that college is supposed to be at least a little bit fun. And they need to get off their phones and connect.


Wait, I don't think most people would describe Penn State and Syracuse as loving/supportive. If you're definition of fun is tailgating and partying (and it is for a lot of college students), then sure, they offer a lot of opportunities for fun. But few people would rate them high for being nurturing!
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Anonymous wrote:These posts about misery and depression at CMU, Chicago, Cornell (all on my kids list btw) have me thinking...where are kids HAPPY? Besides Brown? (Ideally, a little easier to get into than Brown!)


JMU. Students are happy, Parents are happy, school staff super happy at all times....

Remember, It's cold up North, Colder weather brings misery and depression.


I know 3 boys that left due to mental health issues that weren’t there prior. It is an overwhelming alcohol scene.


Disagree. No much more alcohol than VT or UVA.

Also, the alcohol scene is mostly in Greek Life. However, Greek life is only about 20% of all students.

They also have a few faith based Clubs, my son belongs to their Young Life group and "parties" just fine without alcohol.
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Anonymous wrote:As a mom of a hs senior, I am also probing this question and trying to sift through contradictory info. We see emory listed as a school ranked high on having happy kids, but when we ask people with kids there now, they say there's a lot of high-pressure pre professional angst and that social life is dead and kids to go georgia tech for parties. What is the truth???


The feedback I’m getting back on Emory is that it is very pre-professional and not the place if you’re looking for a place with a more traditional campus culture (football, parties) or a pure liberal arts emphasis. However, there are a lot of events that don’t center around sports or Greek life. And there is a lot of interest on the liberal arts. One just has to look a little harder for it in the sea of pre-meds and business students.
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Anonymous wrote:William & Mary

Uh, no.


Np - yes.


They just had another suicide three weeks ago. No.
They need to raise salaries and increase numbers of counseling staff! Most expensive public undergrad in the entire country and they can’t even get a handle on student mental health.


Yes, there was a suicide at W&M three weeks ago. I know years ago (decades ago), W&M had a reputation of being #1 in number of suicides. But in the last decade, they were NOT top for suicides.

As recently as six years ago, W&M was ranked #1 in the country for happiest students by Princeton Review. That ranking has gone down every year and they are no longer on their top 25 list. My oldest was at W&M from 2018-2022. The school was very strict during Covid. My opinion, the students during that time frame did not have the best experience, which probably caused them to drop out of the rankings. That cohort is graduating this year or next year. So you have an entirely new cohort that is experiencing what W&M was like before Covid. I think W&M will rise in the happiest student rankings. The school has a much better dining provider. They are getting ready to open brand new dorms in the fall.
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the whole thread, but I would agree with Syracuse and Penn State.

Right now, mental health issues are so severe and pervasive. It really depends on all of our kids, more than it depends on any one school. I think kids with mental health issues should be guided AWAY from the pressure-cooker schools and into more loving/supportive environments. But many of them and many of their parents are so guided by prestige.

Kids need to remember that college is supposed to be at least a little bit fun. And they need to get off their phones and connect.


Wait, I don't think most people would describe Penn State and Syracuse as loving/supportive. If you're definition of fun is tailgating and partying (and it is for a lot of college students), then sure, they offer a lot of opportunities for fun. But few people would rate them high for being nurturing!


Syracuse alumnae here.
Happiest time of my life!!
"Nurturing and loving" seems like a strange criteria for college. That said, I never felt lost or simply "just a number." I think the reason is because Syracuse is quite self-contained, and campus-driven for such a large school.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Virginia Tech



There's little evidence to support that claim. My friends who were in engineering there were pretty miserable.


Engineering is pretty miserable everywhere. Though they have all doors open to them when they come out, so they win in the end. Socializing as an undergrad and having a lot of happy time is not the experience of Engineers. Same with premeds but to a lesser extent
Anonymous
It is student fit more than school dependent . Princeton has had a lot of suicides in the past 3 yrs. William and Mary has had an uptick the last 18mos. Many top25 schools have had one or more in the past 2 yrs. We are in a mental health crisis
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a mom of a hs senior, I am also probing this question and trying to sift through contradictory info. We see emory listed as a school ranked high on having happy kids, but when we ask people with kids there now, they say there's a lot of high-pressure pre professional angst and that social life is dead and kids to go georgia tech for parties. What is the truth???


i heave heard this from numerous people.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wake Forest. Superb academics. Beautiful campus. Happy students. Parents dream.


I was a scholarship kid there and left. If you aren’t rich, white, and preppy and don’t have tons of money to blow on the weekends, it’s not for you.


I am finding hard to believe that someone who received one of their coveted scholarships left because you are walking about from close to 400k. Also not sure on the money element because my kid has spent almost no money while there. The kids stay on campus to eat and work out so really no expense there and social life revolves around greek scene where again no money spent. We were nervous about money but have heard more complaints from friends whose kids spent a lot on restaurants and bars which can quickly differentiate the haves and have nots. Everyone lives on campus so also no differentiating between who has better apartment including decorations.


Most use “scholarship kid” to mean financial aid that is need based. Many top schools attach names to need based awards. The rare kids(about 20-22 per entering class) who get a full cost of attendance scholarship could be wealthy or not wealthy: they are not need based. These students get $$extra for summer research and many other special perks. Almost all of the fulbright and rhodes winners are from this subset of Wake students. Zero way a student would transfer out if they got this: they are treated like kings and queens of the campus by faculty and everyone else.
Anonymous
If by “happy” you mean party scene, beware: most of the college students who end up at our midatlantic region’s alcohol/drug rehab center come from schools known as happy lower stress party schools:

Uof SC, UTk, Bama (multiple), VCU, Hampden-Sydney, CNU. It is much less common at William and Mary, UVA, and on up the list.
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Anonymous wrote:I haven't read the whole thread, but I would agree with Syracuse and Penn State.

Right now, mental health issues are so severe and pervasive. It really depends on all of our kids, more than it depends on any one school. I think kids with mental health issues should be guided AWAY from the pressure-cooker schools and into more loving/supportive environments. But many of them and many of their parents are so guided by prestige.

Kids need to remember that college is supposed to be at least a little bit fun. And they need to get off their phones and connect.


Wait, I don't think most people would describe Penn State and Syracuse as loving/supportive. If you're definition of fun is tailgating and partying (and it is for a lot of college students), then sure, they offer a lot of opportunities for fun. But few people would rate them high for being nurturing!


Yeah, sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant two separate things:

1.) Penn State and Syracuse both have happy vibes.

2.) If I had a kid with known mental/emotional health struggles, I would guide them toward more supportive schools. Not necessarily PSU or Syracuse. I'd think small and not Top 20, but it depends on the kid.
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