How can we combat deep misogyny?

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Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

In this case, it was. Tells you something about the female candidate, right?

No, it doesn't. It just says that you'd rather vote for a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon than a woman (and God forbid a black woman). But let me guess, you're an old white dude.

I’m not this poster but am a woman who voted for Hillary and did not vote for Kamala. But, sure, blame it on misogyny instead of looking at the candidate and the policy positions she’s taken over the years.

I really want just one of you to tell me in a way that makes sense how Kamala was less qualified than Trump, or Nikki.

Kamala has the intellect and communication skills of a fence post.
You are welcome even if you cannot comprehend.

Hmmmm not sure if you watched the same debate with Trump that I did, but she owned his ass.

So no, I cannot comprehend because it's just another "I hate Kalmala but I can't explain why."

You hate her because she is a black woman. just own it.

NP. She was rehearsed, rehearsed, rehearsed for the debate. That's not good communication skills; that's just acting. People who are really smart and good communicators can carry conversation without teleprompters and endless practice. Like JD Vance.

JD isn’t president, Trump is. Why didn’t you cite him as good ar debating or communicating. The amount of gaslighting…

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Anonymous wrote:I think we need to give up on the Andrew Tates and Joe Rogans and just raise boys better from the ground up.

It makes me so happy when my 4 yr old nephew asks before he touches, or talks about his feelings and can verbalize them. That's the kind of stuff everyone needs to be teaching little boys. (And that they're NOT owed everything they want by the world.)

here is exhibit A as to why you have no clue whats going on outside your bubble. Andrew State and Joe Rogan are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Andrew Tate is a convicted male macho Muslim and Joe Rogan is a laid back normal guy that isn't extreme. Until you start understanding the difference you won't make people think anything other than you are batshit crazy.

Joe Rogan is not a laid back normal guy. Anyone who endorses a rapist and convicted felon for president is not normal. A president should be held to a standard of having never done anything illegal beyond a traffic violation. That shouldn't be too high a bar.

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Joe Rogan normalizes all of the Tate/Trump crap.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Yeah, I'm sure Kalmala wasn't qualified to be president because she can't bench press 200 lbs. GMAFB

Kamala is not a good candidate. It's ok to admit that without falling into the silly trap of calling everyone misogynist for pointing out her very obvious deficiencies, which are not counterbalanced by any particularly noteworthy gifts. In the realm of presidential politics, she's not particularly good or standout at anything. You may think you are helping, but it does no one any favors.

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If the Dems had run any straight white male under 60 they would have run. America elected a black man twice. They did not elect a woman twice. If Kamala had been Kenan they might have won.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Oh I'm sorry. Was your statement about differing capacities not supposed to imply that women are not meant to hold office? That women and men are not equality able to hold elected office? Because if that's not what you meant, please clarify and I'll happily admit that I was wrong. Also, clarify how equality is a mirage could be interpreted better.

Did you miss the word inclinations? You seem like the type that browbeats and shames women into fulfilling your conception of what a woman should be. Again, you are not doing women any favors.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Yeah, I'm sure Kalmala wasn't qualified to be president because she can't bench press 200 lbs. GMAFB

Kamala is not a good candidate. It's ok to admit that without falling into the silly trap of calling everyone misogynist for pointing out her very obvious deficiencies, which are not counterbalanced by any particularly noteworthy gifts. In the realm of presidential politics, she's not particularly good or standout at anything. You may think you are helping, but it does no one any favors.

No, no. Not everyone. I called you a misogynist in direct response to your comments. So let's get that straight. Own your "truth."

You think an elected senator, an AG and a prosecutor is less qualified or not good at anything?

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

This kind of gaslighting works on uneducated women. Not the vast majority of us on here (who have at least a BS/BAdegree). We are capable of having discussions with nuance and reading between the lines. You have said women are not capable of the job.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Oh I'm sorry. Was your statement about differing capacities not supposed to imply that women are not meant to hold office? That women and men are not equality able to hold elected office? Because if that's not what you meant, please clarify and I'll happily admit that I was wrong. Also, clarify how equality is a mirage could be interpreted better.

Did you miss the word inclinations? You seem like the type that browbeats and shames women into fulfilling your conception of what a woman should be. Again, you are not doing women any favors.

HAHAHA love the crawl back. Please explain what you meant, as I asked you.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Yeah, I'm sure Kalmala wasn't qualified to be president because she can't bench press 200 lbs. GMAFB

Kamala is not a good candidate. It's ok to admit that without falling into the silly trap of calling everyone misogynist for pointing out her very obvious deficiencies, which are not counterbalanced by any particularly noteworthy gifts. In the realm of presidential politics, she's not particularly good or standout at anything. You may think you are helping, but it does no one any favors.

No, no. Not everyone. I called you a misogynist in direct response to your comments. So let's get that straight. Own your "truth."

You think an elected senator, an AG and a prosecutor is less qualified or not good at anything?

How about slowing down and stop frothing? In the realm of presidential politics, yes she is nothing special at all. She has no standout qualities or gifts. If all you can list are titles, perhaps you agree with me deep down.

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The first and I think only woman to win in England was a conservative. I think the only way a woman will win is if she's conservative.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think we need to give up on the Andrew Tates and Joe Rogans and just raise boys better from the ground up.

It makes me so happy when my 4 yr old nephew asks before he touches, or talks about his feelings and can verbalize them. That's the kind of stuff everyone needs to be teaching little boys. (And that they're NOT owed everything they want by the world.)

here is exhibit A as to why you have no clue whats going on outside your bubble. Andrew State and Joe Rogan are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Andrew Tate is a convicted male macho Muslim and Joe Rogan is a laid back normal guy that isn't extreme. Until you start understanding the difference you won't make people think anything other than you are batshit crazy.

Joe Rogan is not a laid back normal guy. Anyone who endorses a rapist and convicted felon for president is not normal. A president should be held to a standard of having never done anything illegal beyond a traffic violation. That shouldn't be too high a bar.

As we enter the last year of the first quarter of the 21st Century, it might be time for you to realize that nice people are not effective rulers. If you want nice you are 2024 years too late.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Oh I'm sorry. Was your statement about differing capacities not supposed to imply that women are not meant to hold office? That women and men are not equality able to hold elected office? Because if that's not what you meant, please clarify and I'll happily admit that I was wrong. Also, clarify how equality is a mirage could be interpreted better.

Did you miss the word inclinations? You seem like the type that browbeats and shames women into fulfilling your conception of what a woman should be. Again, you are not doing women any favors.

HAHAHA love the crawl back. Please explain what you meant, as I asked you.

It's not a crawl back at all. Even if women have the capacity to do things, a lot of them simply would prefer to do other things. That should be okay, but in your world, they get same and grief for it and you get to call yourself a champion for the rights and interests of women.

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Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

In this case, it was. Tells you something about the female candidate, right?

No, it doesn't. It just says that you'd rather vote for a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon than a woman (and God forbid a black woman). But let me guess, you're an old white dude.

I’m not this poster but am a woman who voted for Hillary and did not vote for Kamala. But, sure, blame it on misogyny instead of looking at the candidate and the policy positions she’s taken over the years.

I really want just one of you to tell me in a way that makes sense how Kamala was less qualified than Trump, or Nikki.

Kamala has the intellect and communication skills of a fence post.
You are welcome even if you cannot comprehend.

Hmmmm not sure if you watched the same debate with Trump that I did, but she owned his ass.

So no, I cannot comprehend because it's just another "I hate Kalmala but I can't explain why."

You hate her because she is a black woman. just own it.

NP. She was rehearsed, rehearsed, rehearsed for the debate. That's not good communication skills; that's just acting. People who are really smart and good communicators can carry conversation without teleprompters and endless practice. Like JD Vance.

BAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

And she baited trump over and over and over again. He took the bait every single time. She worked him like a fiddle. And you think she is dumb. God help us all.

I absolutely think she is dumb. You are right about that. She had a couple of good lines at the debate, but this was after she shut down her campaign for a week to get ready for it.

Yes, and a lot of people, including Republicans, know Trump is dumb. “Swallow bleach to cure COVID? They’re eating the cats and dogs!” Two classics! He is what Russians call a useful idiot. Thiel, Musk and Vance all caught onto to what Russia has long known and exploited. Depending on how you view their intentions, I guess it’s good the idiot won’t actually be running the show.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

Yeah, I'm sure Kalmala wasn't qualified to be president because she can't bench press 200 lbs. GMAFB

Kamala is not a good candidate. It's ok to admit that without falling into the silly trap of calling everyone misogynist for pointing out her very obvious deficiencies, which are not counterbalanced by any particularly noteworthy gifts. In the realm of presidential politics, she's not particularly good or standout at anything. You may think you are helping, but it does no one any favors.

No, no. Not everyone. I called you a misogynist in direct response to your comments. So let's get that straight. Own your "truth."

You think an elected senator, an AG and a prosecutor is less qualified or not good at anything?

How about slowing down and stop frothing? In the realm of presidential politics, yes she is nothing special at all. She has no standout qualities or gifts. If all you can list are titles, perhaps you agree with me deep down.

Oh FFS it's like talking to a pigeon. What qualities does your guy have? Failed businesses? A criminal record? A filed TV show? Even if you take away all of the rhetoric he spews, Kamala is and always will be more qualified than Trump. She is more educated, has been elected to more positions and is younger and sharper.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to dispense of the notion that men and women are equally equipped and inclined to handled the same things. Much of what is deemed "misogyny" is simply just taking this reality as a first principle rather than seeking absolute "equality" in everything, which is folly. Equality is a mirage.

And here is why she lost. RIGHT HERE!!!! Blatant, unapologetic misogyny on display.

On the contrary, I think you are Exhibit A of why she lost. You can't even handle a little sober truth without freaking out. This behavior is repellant to most of America.

Please don't mistake your bigoted views for the "truth." Live with the fact that you think that women are inferior and accept the fact that you're a misogynist. That is the only truth. Another sad truth is that there were many of you this time around and you elected another bigot. Good for you. For now.

All I said was that men and women have different inclinations and capacities. This is the truth. Apparently this was too much for you to handle without getting bent out of shape and reading a bunch of mumbo jumbo into what was a very simple statement. You are the problem.

This kind of gaslighting works on uneducated women. Not the vast majority of us on here (who have at least a BS/BAdegree). We are capable of having discussions with nuance and reading between the lines. You have said women are not capable of the job.

You are bringing your own baggage into your reading of what I said. Plenty of women are capable of being President. Choose and create for them instead of trying to force a mediocrity like Kamala down our throats.