How can we combat deep misogyny?

[Anonymous]

Voting for the better candidate who is male over a worse candidate who is female is not misogyny, it is evaluating merit instead of gender to make a decision. This ought to apply in the workplace.

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Anonymous wrote:Put up a better female candidate next time and stop blaming it on this.

In what world is a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon a better candidate?

In this case, it was. Tells you something about the female candidate, right?

No, it doesn't. It just says that you'd rather vote for a grifter, rapist, insurrectionist, and convicted felon than a woman (and God forbid a black woman). But let me guess, you're an old white dude.

I’m not this poster but am a woman who voted for Hillary and did not vote for Kamala. But, sure, blame it on misogyny instead of looking at the candidate and the policy positions she’s taken over the years.

The policy positions. That's interesting because when people looked at each candidates policies without knowing the candidate they overwhelmingly favored Harris and Democratic policies. This is also reflected in how many voters picked Blue policies down ballot but voted for Trump. So no it's not policies that's te problem.

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Anonymous wrote:The way we can combat misogyny is by raising good men. Husbands and fathers have to reinforce the idea that women are valuable and worthy of respect and consideration inherently, regardless of how old or young or ugly or beautiful.

When I encounter a misogynistic man I can tell he was not raised well and did not have a good father with good values.

This is an important start. We need to also raise women who refuse to cooperate with misogyny. So many women choose coupling with sexist men over loving themselves and living free. The number of friends I have who are beaten, cheated on, mentally abused, or deeply taken advantage of is sad. We have to teach our girls that no man is better than a bad man.

Women have to stick together. We have to have standards. We have to say no to people, media, policies, and practices that dehumanize us.

Thiis true. And emphasis on the media. So many people have no idea what their kids are listening to. Know what your kids are consuming. I'm 40 years old now and I still remember an incident at 5 years old where my mom pointed out a message in a cartoon that I was watching and we talked about it. Parents have to be locked in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Voting for the better candidate who is male over a worse candidate who is female is not misogyny, it is evaluating merit instead of gender to make a decision. This ought to apply in the workplace.

Merit first for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Voting for the better candidate who is male over a worse candidate who is female is not misogyny, it is evaluating merit instead of gender to make a decision. This ought to apply in the workplace.

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Liberals like OP who prioritize ridiculous things like misogyny over the concerns of the middle class is what got cadet bonespur elected.

And it's ironic that people complaining about misogyny are generally the same people that support gender and race preferences, which is discrimination.

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Anonymous wrote:Voting for the better candidate who is male over a worse candidate who is female is not misogyny, it is evaluating merit instead of gender to make a decision. This ought to apply in the workplace.

+1
Liberals like OP who prioritize ridiculous things like misogyny over the concerns of the middle class is what got cadet bonespur elected.

And it's ironic that people complaining about misogyny are generally the same people that support gender and race preferences, which is discrimination.

hhahahaha middle class! ok, let's see. I hope you get everything you were promised by Trump.

[Anonymous]

Trump is Santa Clause snd he knows who has been naughty (Democrats) and who has been nice (Republicans).

A new toy in the bag is a Supreme Court nomination.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we need to give up on the Andrew Tates and Joe Rogans and just raise boys better from the ground up.

It makes me so happy when my 4 yr old nephew asks before he touches, or talks about his feelings and can verbalize them. That's the kind of stuff everyone needs to be teaching little boys. (And that they're NOT owed everything they want by the world.)

here is exhibit A as to why you have no clue whats going on outside your bubble. Andrew State and Joe Rogan are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Andrew Tate is a convicted male macho Muslim and Joe Rogan is a laid back normal guy that isn't extreme. Until you start understanding the difference you won't make people think anything other than you are batshit crazy.

Joe Rogan is not a laid back normal guy. Anyone who endorses a rapist and convicted felon for president is not normal. A president should be held to a standard of having never done anything illegal beyond a traffic violation. That shouldn't be too high a bar.

I guess that well over half of the voting public is not normal inn your eyes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.

If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?

It's by no means "apparent" misogyny runs deep. I just can't get on board with this thinking. I'm a 52 year old woman and I just simply don't feel the pain.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we need to give up on the Andrew Tates and Joe Rogans and just raise boys better from the ground up.

It makes me so happy when my 4 yr old nephew asks before he touches, or talks about his feelings and can verbalize them. That's the kind of stuff everyone needs to be teaching little boys. (And that they're NOT owed everything they want by the world.)

here is exhibit A as to why you have no clue whats going on outside your bubble. Andrew State and Joe Rogan are TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Andrew Tate is a convicted male macho Muslim and Joe Rogan is a laid back normal guy that isn't extreme. Until you start understanding the difference you won't make people think anything other than you are batshit crazy.

Joe Rogan is not a laid back normal guy. Anyone who endorses a rapist and convicted felon for president is not normal. A president should be held to a standard of having never done anything illegal beyond a traffic violation. That shouldn't be too high a bar.

I guess that well over half of the voting public is not normal inn your eyes.

The people who love to call Trump a rapist never mention all the dirt on Biden. Let's not pretend he was a good guy. He married his kids babysitter has been accused of having sexual contact with his daughter.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop blaming misogyny for simply being a sh!tty candidate or bad at you job.

Put your nose to the grind and earn your stripes up. Life isn't fair, and it is a dog eat dog world. No one owes you anything. You are not entitled to anything because you have a vagina despite what your permanent victimhood.classes taught you while you were in college going $180k in debt for a worthless degree.

This might shock you, but there are women who are good at their jobs and who are terrible at their jobs. Just like men. There are far more people who are mediocre to bad than good, which means most women, just like men, are mediocre to bad. Next time, pick good female candidates of you want to win elections, not thoroughly mid to bad selections like Hillary and Harris.

That sums it up. Harris was very cringe in most of her interviews or appearances. During Oprah I felt like she was on some kind of substance. She couldn't say what she was going to do with the border, and during the Holt interview she said, "So what I haven't been to Europe either". She avoided many interviews for all those months then bombed most.

Right. Like Trump had "substance". He spins up grievances; he doesn't offer up real solutions.

Hypocrite.

Both candidates were, um, “less than ideal?” (Read: both terrible)

Except one was objectively much, much more terrible.

Correct. Harris. As confirmed by voters in a landslide.

Hardly a landslide.

It was literally a wipe out.

MAGA in a nutshell. Take us seriously, not literally. Not seriously either, but you know, vibe checks.

[Anonymous]

Trump won because, like it or not, he is a very charismatic person and talk to people in a relatable way.

Yes, most are dumb to fall for his falácia, and blue policies are more popular, but at the end of the day, people have been tired for a long time of being told what to think, how to act and what to say. Of being canceled or doxed if not conforming with a tiny percentage of the population that is VERY LOUD, and obnoxious.

I voted for Hillary happily and with conviction. I voted for Harris begrudgingly because, to me, the other candidate was no choice at all.

However, his win is not surprising to me and, sadly, I’m not as upset as I was the first time around.

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Anonymous wrote:I think women are just as misogynistic towards other women. Women are harder on women and more critical and ready to tear other women down.

I’m a woman and while I agree, I think my husband is just as critical of men as I am of women, and vice versa. We just want competent people leading the way. In the case of this election, both are idiots, but we were better off four years ago with him than we are right now under her.

Agree.

We were stuck at home 4 years ago and everything was shut down. I’ll take right now.

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Anonymous wrote:It's apparent that it runs incredibly deep in this country, where a woman's professional status is put under a significantly higher scrutiny than a man's, or the standards for which she could be put in the same professional level with a man (or higher) are impossibly unrealistic. She will never be "enough" even compared to males with mediocrity.

If we can somehow avoid talking about politics, can we please have a serious discussion about how deep misogyny runs in America (and yes, much more than many other places--or at least in different ways) and how we can successfully combat it? Is it possible? What do you think works well in other countries? What can we do here?

It's by no means "apparent" misogyny runs deep. I just can't get on board with this thinking. I'm a 52 year old woman and I just simply don't feel the pain.

I'm 52 also and I feel it more every day. You must be very privileged/sheltered.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, would not be surprised if we go the way of Russia. maga seems to like what they are doing there and our peasants do not know any better.