Is this an endorsement of misogyny or a reaction to feminism on some level?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s economic plain and simple. People vote with their wallets. If a female candidate can put more money in all of our pockets, we would vote for the female. The Democrats think they can win on issues but when it comes right down to it, people care about their finances and that’s the bottom line.

Inflation is a global issue. Interest rates are set by the Fed, which is an independent agency. Dems do not control the economy. There were factors during the past 4 years outside of anyone’s control (e.g. supply chain issues and job losses due to COVID). And to the extent politicians can influence the economy, tariffs are not the way to make groceries or housing or education more affordable for the average American.

I agree that people care more about their wallets than the rights of others. But the sad thing is they’ve made a deal with the devil that isn’t even going to help them put food on the table. Do you really think billionaires like Trump and his supporters like Musk actually give a rat’s @$$ about some woman with 5 kids and a 7th grade education being able to afford eggs and gas?

Trump is a manipulator out for his own ego. There is a reason he won with the low information and less educated voters in this country. I’m sure at least half his base couldn’t even explain what the 3 branches of government do.

Gee, who wouldn’t be won over by that level of scorn? Maybe next election you could spit on them and see if it’s possible to alienate them further.

Honestly I don’t care about alienating them. I have nothing in common with people who would vote for a man found civically liable for rape and who makes jokes about groping women. If I never interact with these people I’m no worse off.

I guess the silver lining is Trump seems to be ok letting the SALT cap expire and hopefully my retirement accounts will do well. He will probably end up benefitting the people who didn’t vote for him while his supporters continue to struggle. But they’ll be getting what they voted for so I’m not going to care what happens to them now if they don’t seem to care.

Sorry to break it to you, but as fellow citizens you interact to the extent that you share a country and its government. Perhaps if you did care about alienating them and looked beyond your snobbery and prejudice you could find some common ground.

They’re not an inferior species. They love their families, care about their friends, and genuinely want what they think is best for America, even if their idea of that differs from yours. Many Republicans would support at least some gun control measures. Pro-lifers would probably be open to understanding the need for increased support/reform for the foster care system. Republicans who can’t get homeowner’s insurance might be open to supporting environmental issues.

If you find a way to work with them, instead of trying to either fix them or discard them to avoid contamination, you might win an election, or at least make some progress on the issues Democrats claim to care about.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this an endorsement of misogyny or a reaction to feminism on some level? Men don't want things to change?

No.
Harris was a nobody and a hurried Hail Mary.
The end.

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Anonymous wrote:Inflation was a global phenomenon

It’s all about no longer getting preferential treatment for being men.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/26/upshot/census-relative-income.html

It's a global phenomenon, just as the election results are. Right wingers are winning worldwide and displacing incumbents. Because of the inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:Politicians, economists and others often use GDP and its per capita counterpart as a good proxy for the economy. And it is. They also tlook at other figures such as job creation and unemployment rate to comment on the current state of the economy. Every now and then you also read articles in the media about 401k millionaires. These articles talk about averages as opposed to median to conclude people are on track doing well.

In the real world its a different story. We need to go beyond GDP and rosy job creation and unemployment figures to report on the millions of Americans who are STRUGGLING. These peoples' lives are not captured by GDP or the unemployment rate. These people are employed but severely underpaid with poor health insurance, not enough disposable income and poor job projects due to globalization about rapid advance in technology. The gain in productivity has not translated in higher salary for all.

People were really hit hard by inflation, rent increase, low pay etc.

Mr Trump is a salesman. Good salespeople identify your problem and swear up and down they have the solution to your problem. Sadly there is no easy solution for those millions of people at the bottom. And worse for them if the country is handed to over to wall street and big tech be ready for monopolies with its higher price, lack of data privacy, products such as drugs self driving cars rushed to the markets and on and on.

This is a very good perspective but Trump didn’t help these people during his four years in office. One simple example: his tax policies helped the wealthy and corporations, not the poor working person.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this an endorsement of misogyny or a reaction to feminism on some level? Men don't want things to change?

Did Harris was in charge of the southern border policies and did NOTHING!

Meanwhile illegals were bussed to major urban areas due to overwhelming border cities and states.

Wake up. she didn’t do her damn job, and neither did senile Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t vote for Kamala because I thought Kamala would be an embarrassment to the country and women everywhere if she became president. I want someone who isn’t a blathering idiot to be the standard by which we elect women into the top job of this country. Someone like Gretchen Whitmer, as an example.

I also don’t agree with electing someone into office that I didn’t vote for in a primary. That is so wrong on so many levels and shouldn’t be tolerated from either side. I’m glad we didn’t allow that in the end, if I’m being honest.

This was going to be a case of “history repeating itself” either way: they have both had ample opportunity do good in office, and they have both failed. But we had a choice to make between two idiots. With “history” in the back of my mind, the age old question of “are we better off today than we were four years ago” played a role in my decision making, and, well, no. I’m sorry, but no, we aren’t better.

I don’t like either, but I know what to expect from both. If history is going to repeat itself, then so be it.

Good point.

Not a reason to vote either way but yes she’s an embarassment

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Its a mental illness and susceptibility to propaganda of lies. Plus, misery loves company and I know some are thrilled at the idea others will be in pain, women will have worse healthcare, our environment will take some big blows and a foreign power has our country in a stranglehold.

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Anonymous wrote:Polling shows Biden would lose by more. This is about inflation, pure and simple. Which neither candidate will fix, ironically. Where’s a Volker when you need him?

I don’t trust polls. Many people would claim it’s the economy and never admit they don’t want a woman in charge.

That said, Harris never adequately addressed the inflation issue to voters’ satisfaction. I’m not sure any candidate could have.

There you go again.

Thinking everyone votes for the same reasons as you otherwise XYZ-ism.

Def dont entertain it was the economy, inflation, out of control college protests, illegal immigration bonanza, lying about Biden’s faculties, Russia/ Iran/ N Korea/ China on a tear under Obama & Biden & Harris.

Yeah just keep harping Pp

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant woman who voted for Trump. You white liberal women are crazy and tone-deaf. You don't understand nor live in reality. It's not misogyny or inflation. It's the simple fact that we're here to build a better life for our children and ourselves. You are not. You have ruined the normal merit-based function of a society. White supremacy indeed, just listen to yourself. We're fed up with your nepo sh*t, DEI of incompetence (just look at Kamala), trans in women sports, endless stream of illegals who reduce wages and crowd out schools, housing, medical care. You literally got everything wrong. There is a reason why young people voted for Trump and the reason is that they want to live a peaceful life, earn a normal living being able to afford a house and family, and not participate in your endless wars.

Stephen Miller is busy working on a plan to deport you as well…or did you miss that?

He is focused on getting rid of all the legal immigrants while others can focus on the illegals.

I actually am more in favor of deporting all the folks that are actually taking jobs from people vs the immigrants working in meatpacking factories or other jobs that nobody wants. You know…the workers we actually need.

That is his focus. First getting rid of all the H1 folks and then getting rid of you.

Standard American capital owner language lol....Cheap labor is good! Raise those wages oh wait that will affect my profit ok nevermind then

Hey…at least they take jobs nobody wants vs jobs people actually want. The H1 folks actually do drive down wages.

The ultimate inflation recipe= tariffs plus reducing the workforce. Look at Russia’s inflation rate…people can’t afford butter or basic shit right now and have to steal it. They have exterior tariffs and their workers are getting slaughtered in Ukraine.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t vote for Kamala because I thought Kamala would be an embarrassment to the country and women everywhere if she became president. I want someone who isn’t a blathering idiot to be the standard by which we elect women into the top job of this country. Someone like Gretchen Whitmer, as an example.

I also don’t agree with electing someone into office that I didn’t vote for in a primary. That is so wrong on so many levels and shouldn’t be tolerated from either side. I’m glad we didn’t allow that in the end, if I’m being honest.

This was going to be a case of “history repeating itself” either way: they have both had ample opportunity do good in office, and they have both failed. But we had a choice to make between two idiots. With “history” in the back of my mind, the age old question of “are we better off today than we were four years ago” played a role in my decision making, and, well, no. I’m sorry, but no, we aren’t better.

I don’t like either, but I know what to expect from both. If history is going to repeat itself, then so be it.

It is disingenous to say you didn't want a "blathering idiot" or that you would have preferred Whitmer and then to be okay with Trump becoming president. Trump is a blathering idiot and Whitmer wasn't on the ballot. You had two choices. You either voted for Trump (wholly unqualified for the job due to his performance the first time and behavior since, plus older than Biden was when Biden took office) or you didn't vote for anyone thus enabling Trump to win.

If you voted for no one I just think you are derelict in your duty as a citizen. If you voted for Trump I think misogyny HAD to play a role because even if you think Harris is unqualified there is no way she is less qualifed than Trump. Objectively. He is a bad person. He's corrupt. He failed to protect the country on J6. And he's too old.

I voted for Harris but I think you're missing some of the reasons people voted for Trump and they don't have anything to do with misogyny. I know a few women who voted for Trump (a very small percentage of my friends did) and I wouldn't call any of them misogynists. They were just less bothered by the things that bother you (and that bother me) and cared more about other things.

My only girlfriends who voted for Trump were voting primarily with abortion in mind. They are religious conservatives who are one-issue voters. I'm not defending them; I voted for Harris.

I'm the PP. Mine aren't religious conservatives so the abortion issue had no sway on them. They're educated but mostly they're rich. I don't agree with how they voted but it didn't have anything to do with misogyny.

But like a prior PP said, they don't care to know or associate with anyone who voted for Trump. And sadly, it's the people on the extremes of both sides who seem to be in charge now and everyone in the middle is just left shaking their heads.

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Anonymous wrote:I am an immigrant woman who voted for Trump. You white liberal women are crazy and tone-deaf. You don't understand nor live in reality. It's not misogyny or inflation. It's the simple fact that we're here to build a better life for our children and ourselves. You are not. You have ruined the normal merit-based function of a society. White supremacy indeed, just listen to yourself. We're fed up with your nepo sh*t, DEI of incompetence (just look at Kamala), trans in women sports, endless stream of illegals who reduce wages and crowd out schools, housing, medical care. You literally got everything wrong. There is a reason why young people voted for Trump and the reason is that they want to live a peaceful life, earn a normal living being able to afford a house and family, and not participate in your endless wars.

Stephen Miller is busy working on a plan to deport you as well…or did you miss that?

He is focused on getting rid of all the legal immigrants while others can focus on the illegals.

I actually am more in favor of deporting all the folks that are actually taking jobs from people vs the immigrants working in meatpacking factories or other jobs that nobody wants. You know…the workers we actually need.

That is his focus. First getting rid of all the H1 folks and then getting rid of you.

Standard American capital owner language lol....Cheap labor is good! Raise those wages oh wait that will affect my profit ok nevermind then

That pretty much sums up the GOP position right now. Which is why, if you are a recent immigrant or here on a visa or a naturalized American citizen - and you aren't lilly white - good luck with that. Most of us on the board were voting to protect you but now that ship has sailed.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this an endorsement of misogyny or a reaction to feminism on some level? Men don't want things to change?

Did Harris was in charge of the southern border policies and did NOTHING!

Meanwhile illegals were bussed to major urban areas due to overwhelming border cities and states.

Wake up. she didn’t do her damn job, and neither did senile Biden.

So, you completely ignored the bipartisan border bill debacle that Trump straight tanked? He is person over party and you're so dim, you just repeat his lies.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this an endorsement of misogyny or a reaction to feminism on some level? Men don't want things to change?

No.
Harris was a nobody and a hurried Hail Mary.
The end.

This. Maybe she was just a bad candidate who was never chosen by Democrat voters as their nominee.

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Anonymous wrote:Polling shows Biden would lose by more. This is about inflation, pure and simple. Which neither candidate will fix, ironically. Where’s a Volker when you need him?

And crime

So let’s vote in a criminal so he is immune from facing charges. Makes sense.

Weak trial.
Weak trial atty
Weak “evidence”
Selective application

Weaker case than Hillary Clinton by far. Read the case study.

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The need to classify it as misogyny or antifeminism is the inherent problem. Men are sick of being told at every turn that they are toxic or redundant or Neanderthals