If you are voting for Trump based on immigration- why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: A lot US citizens are really upset that they have waited years and years to sponsor family members from to join them from other countries while people are cutting in line as so many people claiming asylum are clearly economic refugees.

If you followed the official process and you are a US citizen who wants to sponsor your unmarried children who are over 21, the Department of State is processing applications filed in October of 2015- so 9 years. If your children live in Mexico the wait is even longer- they are processing applications submitted Jan 2003- so 21 years.

If you want to sponsor your brother or sister application filed in 2007 are being processed - so 17 years (and longer for certain countries).

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2025/visa-bulletin-for-october-2024.html

So now imagine you have been waiting that long and Biden in October of 2022 decides he is going to let people from certain countries cut in line. So he flies in roughly 214,000  Haitians, 117,000 Venezuelans, 111,000 Cubans and 96,000 Nicaraguans to the U.S. so far under the policy.

Now add to that all the asylum seekers who are economic refugees but are also cutting the line.

People who aren't immigrants or who don't have family members who are immigrants have no idea what is really happening.

This new wave is completely different and it is going to be a disaster. Historically migrants to the US have made their own way and don't immediately rely on hand outs and free housing (not including refugees and we actually don't take many refugees as a country). Listen to the podcast from This American Life 818 Stand Clear of the Moving doors. I suppose they meant it to be sympathetic, but the profile a group consisting of two families traveling with two guys that show up to the Roosevelt Hotel expecting to get free hotel rooms. The city buses them to a tent shelter where they can stay for free. The families leave and go back to the Roosevelt hotel to demand hotel rooms explaining ""They said they were going to send us to a hotel, but it wasn't a hotel. It's a campsite," says one of the men, "where we're all sleeping on cots. And we need our privacy for the kids. You understand? And the bathrooms-- they're not in the main tent. You have to go outside to use them." So the family has come on foot all the way from Venezuela through Central America and Mexico and the tent shelter being offered is probably way better than anywhere else they stayed along with way.

When so many are coming with an expectation that the US owes them something, it doesn't bode well for everyone else here.

Exactly. And when the Biden/Harris administration is clearly sympathetic to illegal immigrants, it's obvious that a Harris/Walz administration will only continue these horrible policies. I have no doubt that Harris will give amnesty to the millions already in the country. But hey, "Joy!!" 🤮

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to sterling middle school in Virginia and see what the democrats have done

Warner and Kaine and connely nEVER show up

Title one school due to overwhelming immigration and illegal Aliens


You must be blind not to see what is happening

This is happening a lot in the DMV. In our school district, the school board is now considering moving middle/upper class kids to those types of schools to cover up that they are failing due to the influx of the kids from the border. This will be the issue that turns democrats to republicans. It's fine to vote for Democrats until it's your own kids that are impacted

Urban elites don’t care

They have nothing but contempt for middle class

It really should not be surprising why so many are rejecting Harris and overwhelming immigration

You are so brainwashed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to sterling middle school in Virginia and see what the democrats have done

Warner and Kaine and connely nEVER show up

Title one school due to overwhelming immigration and illegal Aliens


You must be blind not to see what is happening

This is happening a lot in the DMV. In our school district, the school board is now considering moving middle/upper class kids to those types of schools to cover up that they are failing due to the influx of the kids from the border. This will be the issue that turns democrats to republicans. It's fine to vote for Democrats until it's your own kids that are impacted

Urban elites don’t care

They have nothing but contempt for middle class

It really should not be surprising why so many are rejecting Harris and overwhelming immigration

You are so brainwashed.

DP. Anyone who has witnessed the outrageous wave of illegal immigration during the Biden/Harris administration is not brainwashed. OTC, you are gaslighting, yet again. Exactly what will Harris do to take the border *seriously*?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

I'm a teacher. Do you honestly think a class in which 75% or more of the students are learning English as a second language doesn't impact the instructional pace? That's not a racist comment. It's a big challenge for the teachers and students.

Can you provide some data showing that 75% of the kids in Sterling are in ESL?

Silly elementary school in Sterling. 93% low income students and 80% are English Language learners.https://www.greatschools.org/virginia/sterling/1001-Sully-Elementary-School/

I don't see that at all. It says 84% are Hispanic, and I see that it's 93% low income, but I don't see that data about ELL. The reviews are glowing and they make it sound like a nice community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guilford elementary school. 99% low income 80%+ English language learners. https://www.greatschools.org/virginia/sterling/984-Guilford-Elementary-School/

Are you just implying that all Hispanics are ELL? Again, good reviews. The one poor one says that principal is good and the teachers are decent, but the admin is terrible. Is this some gotcha posting, and if not, where is your bad review of the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The only MAGA person I know (not Republican, because MAGA is MAGA) lives in San Diego County. She has been anti-Mexican for many years. I don't think it matters to her if they are here legally or not. She does not like them and thus would like to see them removed.

I grew up in CA and they have been complaining about immigration for 45 years, even through GOP leadership. It’s a refrain there to be sure.

Gosh, I can’t imagine why… couldn’t possibly be because, you know, it’s a huge problem? Nah, that couldn’t be it.

My point is it's been under both GOP and Dem leaders, but yet, only Dems seem to be blamed for the problem. So, it hasn't been solved in 45 years? Do you really want deportation camps in the US?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to sterling middle school in Virginia and see what the democrats have done

Warner and Kaine and connely nEVER show up

Title one school due to overwhelming immigration and illegal Aliens


You must be blind not to see what is happening

This is happening a lot in the DMV. In our school district, the school board is now considering moving middle/upper class kids to those types of schools to cover up that they are failing due to the influx of the kids from the border. This will be the issue that turns democrats to republicans. It's fine to vote for Democrats until it's your own kids that are impacted

Urban elites don’t care

They have nothing but contempt for middle class

It really should not be surprising why so many are rejecting Harris and overwhelming immigration

You are so brainwashed.

DP. Anyone who has witnessed the outrageous wave of illegal immigration during the Biden/Harris administration is not brainwashed. OTC, you are gaslighting, yet again. Exactly what will Harris do to take the border *seriously*?

"outrageous"




https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/

https://ohss.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-06/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018%25E2%2580%2593january-2022.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to sterling middle school in Virginia and see what the democrats have done

Warner and Kaine and connely nEVER show up

Title one school due to overwhelming immigration and illegal Aliens


You must be blind not to see what is happening

This is happening a lot in the DMV. In our school district, the school board is now considering moving middle/upper class kids to those types of schools to cover up that they are failing due to the influx of the kids from the border. This will be the issue that turns democrats to republicans. It's fine to vote for Democrats until it's your own kids that are impacted

Urban elites don’t care

They have nothing but contempt for middle class

It really should not be surprising why so many are rejecting Harris and overwhelming immigration

You are so brainwashed.

DP. Anyone who has witnessed the outrageous wave of illegal immigration during the Biden/Harris administration is not brainwashed. OTC, you are gaslighting, yet again. Exactly what will Harris do to take the border *seriously*?

"outrageous"




https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/22/what-we-know-about-unauthorized-immigrants-living-in-the-us/

https://ohss.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-06/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018%25E2%2580%2593january-2022.pdf

Sooo...Trump didn't do much to stop the flow of undocumented workers. Curious indeed. I'm sure the extra staff was welcome at Mar-a-lago to help all the SS there and at his DC hotel to entertain all the foreign dignitaries. They also paid income tax, but Trump didn't. Maddening.

[Anonymous]

Salisbury MD Haitian illegals--estimated to be around 7,000 now and hundreds more coming in

https://www.wboc.com/news/salisbury-sees-increase-in-haitian-immigration-amid-unrest-in-haiti/article_ae060872-0cb0-11ef-ae15-f3b119173300.html

Definitely taking housing from African Americans and poor white families

Schools that have always been poor are struggling. Some grades are getting 30 new illegal Haitian kids per grade a week.

A illegal Haitian woman who has a baby in Salisbury is provided with housing pretty quickly. Yet working local folks really struggle to find housing. Two of my workers, both American women with children cannot find housing. One is African American woman with 3 children and one is white woman looking for housing for 8. (Grandma, husband, wife, 4 kids and brother) All adults are working 1-2 jobs.

Taking jobs from African Americans and poor whites. You really see this at Tidal Health (the hospital)

Salisbury has historically been a town of farmers, watermen, and factory workers. It is becoming little Port-au-Prince.

[Anonymous]

A lot of people are noting they feel it is a problem, but I have yet to read anything that Trump will do to solve it. He was not very effective last time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are noting they feel it is a problem, but I have yet to read anything that Trump will do to solve it. He was not very effective last time.

He is very good at making people feel very anxious or even afraid about the issue. He is not the guy for solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of people are noting they feel it is a problem, but I have yet to read anything that Trump will do to solve it. He was not very effective last time.

He is very good at making people feel very anxious or even afraid about the issue. He is not the guy for solutions.

It's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy, unfortunately. He makes the country so uninviting if he wins that fewer people will decide to migrate here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Come to sterling middle school in Virginia and see what the democrats have done

Warner and Kaine and connely nEVER show up

Title one school due to overwhelming immigration and illegal Aliens


You must be blind not to see what is happening

This is happening a lot in the DMV. In our school district, the school board is now considering moving middle/upper class kids to those types of schools to cover up that they are failing due to the influx of the kids from the border. This will be the issue that turns democrats to republicans. It's fine to vote for Democrats until it's your own kids that are impacted

Urban elites don’t care

They have nothing but contempt for middle class

It really should not be surprising why so many are rejecting Harris and overwhelming immigration

You are so brainwashed.

only 35% of US adults are college educated, that means 65% or not. so Biden gives a handout to a small subset of the population and then these same urban elite wonder why people are voting for Trump.

Contempt

One of the main things that I hear from my fellow tradesmen is how the elite and white-collar professional class don't care about or respect the blue collar working class. This disrespect comes out in many ways, big and small. But you can hear it a lot in the political rhetoric coming out of the progressive side these days. It was there in the COVID conversation, how work-from-home white collar folks pushed for endless lockdowns and vaccine mandates, to be imposed on the working class whose labor they relied on to stay home. It's there in the way they talk about a universal basic income instead of high-paying trade jobs, and in the way they push for low-wage green jobs instead of union energy jobs.

But you can really see it in how they talk about college. Take the latest issue that progressives are pushing the Biden administration on—student loan cancelation. They want us taxpayers to pay off the student loans of the college educated, who on average make more money than those without a degree, and for whom the economy recovered almost immediately post-COVID. Then they have the audacity to tell us that it will help blue collar workers. They want us to enthusiastically agree to pay off their student loan debt, and then have the nerve to tell us it's in our interest as Americans.

That's what I mean about disrespect. And it pervades the entire conversation about college in America today.

https://www.newsweek.com/divide-isnt-right-v-left-its-us-blue-collar-workers-fighting-elite-contempt-opinion-1706053

[Anonymous]

Because they have real impacts. Just look at the DMV. They raised our property taxes because the schools yet again cried about lack of funding and overcrowding. Yeah, no S schools are overcrowded when this idiot sanctuary county rolls out the carpet for mass illegal immigration. They also consume massive amounts of intensive resources because now they require all sorts of ESL staff since they barely speak English. They also need to be taught tons and tons of remedial work since they're from countries with barely functional education systems, which drags down overall quality for all students and costs tons of more money. Tests scores continue to decline in our public schools as more and more people from 3rd world poverty flood into the county.

Next, they also now whine about lack of affordable housing. Yeah, well duh, of course you have less available affordable housing units when massive stocks are rented out to boatloads of illegal immigrants. Every single apartment complex near us with cheaper rentals is overwhelmingly filled with illegal immigrants. Every single unit they occupy is a unit not available for a US citizen. What'd the county expect when they invite in a million illegal immigrants? They have to live and be housed somewhere, duh! So what are liberals' solution now? They cry about affordable housing, so their solution is to now upzone all of our nice neighborhoods. They want to tear down homes and build apartment complexes in the middle of your neighborhood. Basically, our citizens have to upend our way of life and pay more for the privilege of it, and all because massive amounts of illegal immigration is straining the entire county from educational resources, to housing, to the county budget.

Open borders under Harris Biden have been a disaster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because they have real impacts. Just look at the DMV. They raised our property taxes because the schools yet again cried about lack of funding and overcrowding. Yeah, no S schools are overcrowded when this idiot sanctuary county rolls out the carpet for mass illegal immigration. They also consume massive amounts of intensive resources because now they require all sorts of ESL staff since they barely speak English. They also need to be taught tons and tons of remedial work since they're from countries with barely functional education systems, which drags down overall quality for all students and costs tons of more money. Tests scores continue to decline in our public schools as more and more people from 3rd world poverty flood into the county.

Next, they also now whine about lack of affordable housing. Yeah, well duh, of course you have less available affordable housing units when massive stocks are rented out to boatloads of illegal immigrants. Every single apartment complex near us with cheaper rentals is overwhelmingly filled with illegal immigrants. Every single unit they occupy is a unit not available for a US citizen. What'd the county expect when they invite in a million illegal immigrants? They have to live and be housed somewhere, duh! So what are liberals' solution now? They cry about affordable housing, so their solution is to now upzone all of our nice neighborhoods. They want to tear down homes and build apartment complexes in the middle of your neighborhood. Basically, our citizens have to upend our way of life and pay more for the privilege of it, and all because massive amounts of illegal immigration is straining the entire county from educational resources, to housing, to the county budget.

Open borders under Harris Biden have been a disaster.

You are wrong.

We can import millions of people and it will have NO impact on housing and will INCREASE the number of jobs for US citizens. this is fact because WAPO and many economists have said so.

i dont understand it, i thought supply and demand was a real thing but apparently it is a myth

and you my friend are a RACIST!