Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity

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What's a good year span for a used jeep?
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Anonymous wrote:^ I see rvs rowing other cars all the time. How is jeep neutral different than regular neutral? In regular neutral the transmission isn’t engaged so the engine doesn’t spin when the wheels do. What am I missing?


Jeep made up propoganda


Do you design automatic transmissions? An automatic transmissions actively pumps fluid through the bearings. If the output shaft is turning without the input shaft turning, you can get oil starvation.

https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/35720/flat-towing-in-neutral


This is correct. With a proper Jeep, you can just put the transfer case in neutral, which completely disconnects the rear driveshaft from the transmission output shaft. Most automatics on will burn up from oil starvation when towed in neutral.
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I have a jeep wrangler with a soft top and lift, and I love it (bought it new in 2018). I'm a car girl, and it's the longest I've owned a car. I love the wave, the ducks, and if it ever dies or has an issue, even a flat tire, I guarantee another wrangler owner would stop to help.
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I've driven Jeeps for nearly 30 years. Can you newbies please stop with the stupid ducks? It makes us all look like morons.
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Anonymous wrote:I have a jeep wrangler with a soft top and lift, and I love it (bought it new in 2018). I'm a car girl, and it's the longest I've owned a car. I love the wave, the ducks, and if it ever dies or has an issue, even a flat tire, I guarantee another wrangler owner would stop to help.


I have actually witnessed this. I stopped on 695 in Baltimore for a stranger in Wrangler many years ago. They’d run out of gas. Gave him and his daughter a ride to the gas station and then back to their Jeep.

Another Wrangler driver stopped to see if I was ok when stopped along a country road in Virginia (I wasn’t broken down, I’d been parked there to fish a nearby creek).

This is a REAL phenomenon. It definitely happens.
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Anonymous wrote:I've driven Jeeps for nearly 30 years. Can you newbies please stop with the stupid ducks? It makes us all look like morons.


I’ve owned some form of CJ/YJ/TJ/JK since 1989. I kind of roll my eyes at newbs and the duck thing, but as fads go, it’s pretty benign. Let it go.
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Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?


TJ’s are great examples of the “last” of the CJ lineage. 99-06 years in particular, with the 4.0L and Dana44 rear axle. Look carefully at prospective buys though - TJ’s were notorious for having extensive rust damage inside the frame rails.

Any YJ’s or CJ’s that are survivor vehicles have no doubt received care to preserve them to this point, and are almost certainly in good shape. But you pay accordingly for such classics.

For newer models, the best years for the JK are ‘13-‘18. The JK is the first version with 4 doors, so if that’s important to you, it narrows down your model search.

The current JL is very similar to the JK, but has a body that is largely aluminum instead of steel, for lighter weight. It also has different (but somewhat marginally stronger) axles. It also comes in a pick up truck version. Avoid 18’s because they had an aluminum steering box that was very problematic.
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TJ’s are great examples of the “last” of the CJ lineage. 99-06 years in particular, with the 4.0L and Dana44 rear axle. Look carefully at prospective buys though - TJ’s were notorious for having extensive rust damage inside the frame rails.

Any YJ’s or CJ’s that are survivor vehicles have no doubt received care to preserve them to this point, and are almost certainly in good shape. But you pay accordingly for such classics.

For newer models, the best years for the JK are ‘13-‘18. The JK is the first version with 4 doors, so if that’s important to you, it narrows down your model search.

The current JL is very similar to the JK, but has a body that is largely aluminum instead of steel, for lighter weight. It also has different (but somewhat marginally stronger) axles. It also comes in a pick up truck version. Avoid 18’s because they had an aluminum steering box that was very problematic.


We used to take a CJ to a sandpit in high school. That car spent as much time on it's roof as it's tires
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Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?


TJ’s are great examples of the “last” of the CJ lineage. 99-06 years in particular, with the 4.0L and Dana44 rear axle. Look carefully at prospective buys though - TJ’s were notorious for having extensive rust damage inside the frame rails.

Any YJ’s or CJ’s that are survivor vehicles have no doubt received care to preserve them to this point, and are almost certainly in good shape. But you pay accordingly for such classics.

For newer models, the best years for the JK are ‘13-‘18. The JK is the first version with 4 doors, so if that’s important to you, it narrows down your model search.

The current JL is very similar to the JK, but has a body that is largely aluminum instead of steel, for lighter weight. It also has different (but somewhat marginally stronger) axles. It also comes in a pick up truck version. Avoid 18’s because they had an aluminum steering box that was very problematic.


My 2004 TJ. Manual trans, soft top, 150k miles still runs great. The steel body is great. Got rear ended once that totaled the other car and barely a scratch.
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I've had mine since Feb of 2015. I only have 231,000 miles on it. We still love driving it both on and off road! Driving it around Williamsburg and Surry this weekend with the top down was a blast! I highly recommend doing the drive from Homestead Fl to Key West without doors or top on. Some Buffett on the radio makes the drive so worth it! And yes we road trip the Jeep. How many people who hate Jeeps without ever owning one have enjoyed driving say a Audi for 10 plus years??
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Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?


TJ’s are great examples of the “last” of the CJ lineage. 99-06 years in particular, with the 4.0L and Dana44 rear axle. Look carefully at prospective buys though - TJ’s were notorious for having extensive rust damage inside the frame rails.

Any YJ’s or CJ’s that are survivor vehicles have no doubt received care to preserve them to this point, and are almost certainly in good shape. But you pay accordingly for such classics.

For newer models, the best years for the JK are ‘13-‘18. The JK is the first version with 4 doors, so if that’s important to you, it narrows down your model search.

The current JL is very similar to the JK, but has a body that is largely aluminum instead of steel, for lighter weight. It also has different (but somewhat marginally stronger) axles. It also comes in a pick up truck version. Avoid 18’s because they had an aluminum steering box that was very problematic.


My 2004 TJ. Manual trans, soft top, 150k miles still runs great. The steel body is great. Got rear ended once that totaled the other car and barely a scratch.



A guy down the street from me put over 500,000 on his 2000 TJ!
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Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?
I'd Stick with 2014 to 2022 with the V6. The 4xe has more issues.
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Anonymous wrote:What's a good year span for a used jeep?


2015 - 2019. Would not touch anything after 2019.
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Anonymous wrote:They're so ugly. I can't believe Mercedes made a Jeep lookalike.



Mercedes G-wagon is very old and was a utility vehicle in other countries. For some reason, someone/Mercedes?? got it in their head to turn it into a high end vehicle. (For all I know, the Jeep was a copy of the G-wagon.)

But regardless of what the Jeep Haters are saying here, there is a huge number of people who love the look of the traditional Jeep, that you can now see in the Jeep Wrangler. And it's an affordable "cool" vehicle.


Jeeps are from the 40s. G-wagons are from the 70s.


I see first Jeep was completed in 1941, and the first G-wagon/Puch was created in 1972, as a military vehicle, but didn't come to the US until 2002.


both were created for the military
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Anonymous wrote:It’s an acceptable lower priced vehicle for UMC just like Subaru.


They can be quite expensive


Yup. Jeeps are $$$$$$ for what you get.

You'd have to try really hard to spend over $40K on a Subaru. And, frankly, my Subaru has driven fine on the beach and ORV trails alongside Jeeps. And I've blown past spun out Jeeps in heavy winter conditions.

98% of people driving Jeeps will never rock crawl or go muddin'. They really should just be driving Subarus.


All the SUV's I looked at were at least in the 50's - ford, hyundai, etc... nothing fancy.

Not all jeeps are 4 wheel or awd. The basic sport model is very no thrills.


We have both a Outback and a Wrangler Unlimited. In snow, our Outback sits. Tried to get it out during a deep 30 plus inch snow once. Rocking it turned on every warning light on! With the Jeep, just bounce it off the rev limiter until you stop. Then back up 50 feet and hit it again! My Jeep has 3PMS KO2s so it does really well in snow. Mud tires do not do well in snow on any SUV. When the Outback dies we will be getting a newer Wrangler to replace it. We need something high enough that a deer won't come into the windshield during a 50 mph + collision.
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