Can't Understand Jeep's Popularity

[Anonymous]

Ford also followed this long term planning mantra with their Panther platform. Those cars were virtually indestructible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They’re still coasting off the Jeep name. Eventually people will figure out that they are crap. The last real Jeeps were made up until about 2003.

I just test drove a Grand Highlander and then a Jeep Grand Cherokee L - I don’t know if you consider it a “real Jeep” or not but it’s hella more fun to drive and reminds me of the Jeep I had in the 90s.

How do? To me, it would be in the same category as the Grand Highlander, but with worse gas mileage, I'm guessing? The Cherokees in the 90's were much different. Today's Cherokee looks like many other rounded SUVs me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jeeps in the 1990’s had solid engines. Not as good since then . I tend to think people are buying on nostalgia, but modern Jeeps on not simple fun rides now.

Blame the US govt, specifically, the EPA. The 242/258/4.OL series of in-line six cylinder engines that Jeeps used from the 1950’s through 2006 were some of the most reliable engines that have ever been put in a vehicle.

But the federal mandates to squeeze more and more fractions of a mile out of each vehicle extrapolated over a fleet of millions of vehicles produced annually dictated getting rid of one of the best engines that has ever existed, and replacing it with a a far more complicated, harder working, higher compression, shorter-lived DOHC V6.

The current Pentastar V6 isn’t a bad motor….but it will never have the reliability or longevity of the inline 6 it replaced. Even though it makes 100 MORE horsepower than the old 4.0L, it still feels less powerful. And this switch was made just to achieve a .7 mpg improvement over the old engine.


The government f**ks up everything they touch.

Guess PP was right about the MAGAs.

My friend had one back in HS in the 80s (as many HS girls did back then). It got like 8 mph - on the highway.

My 2015 gets 21 on the highway. And is really nice on days like today! It is the only car or truck that i enjoy driving after owning for ten years and 235,000 miles! Why is everything about politics? I also own a Outback. The old 4.0 is one of the longest lasting motors ever built!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeeps in the 1990’s had solid engines. Not as good since then . I tend to think people are buying on nostalgia, but modern Jeeps on not simple fun rides now.

Blame the US govt, specifically, the EPA. The 242/258/4.OL series of in-line six cylinder engines that Jeeps used from the 1950’s through 2006 were some of the most reliable engines that have ever been put in a vehicle.

But the federal mandates to squeeze more and more fractions of a mile out of each vehicle extrapolated over a fleet of millions of vehicles produced annually dictated getting rid of one of the best engines that has ever existed, and replacing it with a a far more complicated, harder working, higher compression, shorter-lived DOHC V6.

The current Pentastar V6 isn’t a bad motor….but it will never have the reliability or longevity of the inline 6 it replaced. Even though it makes 100 MORE horsepower than the old 4.0L, it still feels less powerful. And this switch was made just to achieve a .7 mpg improvement over the old engine.


The government f**ks up everything they touch.

Guess PP was right about the MAGAs.

My friend had one back in HS in the 80s (as many HS girls did back then). It got like 8 mph - on the highway.

So because you insisted on driving around with a vehicle in desperate need of a carburetor adjustment (because you should’ve been getting about 15-17 mpg in an 1980’s CJ) that’s somehow Jeep’s fault? Because you wouldn’t fix it?

Got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeeps in the 1990’s had solid engines. Not as good since then . I tend to think people are buying on nostalgia, but modern Jeeps on not simple fun rides now.

Blame the US govt, specifically, the EPA. The 242/258/4.OL series of in-line six cylinder engines that Jeeps used from the 1950’s through 2006 were some of the most reliable engines that have ever been put in a vehicle.

But the federal mandates to squeeze more and more fractions of a mile out of each vehicle extrapolated over a fleet of millions of vehicles produced annually dictated getting rid of one of the best engines that has ever existed, and replacing it with a a far more complicated, harder working, higher compression, shorter-lived DOHC V6.

The current Pentastar V6 isn’t a bad motor….but it will never have the reliability or longevity of the inline 6 it replaced. Even though it makes 100 MORE horsepower than the old 4.0L, it still feels less powerful. And this switch was made just to achieve a .7 mpg improvement over the old engine.


The government f**ks up everything they touch.

Guess PP was right about the MAGAs.

My friend had one back in HS in the 80s (as many HS girls did back then). It got like 8 mph - on the highway.

So because you insisted on driving around with a vehicle in desperate need of a carburetor adjustment (because you should’ve been getting about 15-17 mpg in an 1980’s CJ) that’s somehow Jeep’s fault? Because you wouldn’t fix it?

Got it.

1. Wasn’t my car.

2. EPA estimates are optimistic and probably assume hardtop. Doors and windows flapping around weren’t helping.

3. It was a terrible car but many girls liked them because they were “cute”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're so ugly. I can't believe Mercedes made a Jeep lookalike.

Nah. The G-Wagon is in its own league. Please do not confuse that with a POS American made heap of trash with ducks strewn across the dash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeeps in the 1990’s had solid engines. Not as good since then . I tend to think people are buying on nostalgia, but modern Jeeps on not simple fun rides now.

Blame the US govt, specifically, the EPA. The 242/258/4.OL series of in-line six cylinder engines that Jeeps used from the 1950’s through 2006 were some of the most reliable engines that have ever been put in a vehicle.

But the federal mandates to squeeze more and more fractions of a mile out of each vehicle extrapolated over a fleet of millions of vehicles produced annually dictated getting rid of one of the best engines that has ever existed, and replacing it with a a far more complicated, harder working, higher compression, shorter-lived DOHC V6.

The current Pentastar V6 isn’t a bad motor….but it will never have the reliability or longevity of the inline 6 it replaced. Even though it makes 100 MORE horsepower than the old 4.0L, it still feels less powerful. And this switch was made just to achieve a .7 mpg improvement over the old engine.


The government f**ks up everything they touch.

Guess PP was right about the MAGAs.

My friend had one back in HS in the 80s (as many HS girls did back then). It got like 8 mph - on the highway.

So because you insisted on driving around with a vehicle in desperate need of a carburetor adjustment (because you should’ve been getting about 15-17 mpg in an 1980’s CJ) that’s somehow Jeep’s fault? Because you wouldn’t fix it?

Got it.

1. Wasn’t my car.

2. EPA estimates are optimistic and probably assume hardtop. Doors and windows flapping around weren’t helping.

3. It was a terrible car but many girls liked them because they were “cute”.

Getting a really strong-unpopular-kid-becomes-resentful-adult vibe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jeeps in the 1990’s had solid engines. Not as good since then . I tend to think people are buying on nostalgia, but modern Jeeps on not simple fun rides now.

Blame the US govt, specifically, the EPA. The 242/258/4.OL series of in-line six cylinder engines that Jeeps used from the 1950’s through 2006 were some of the most reliable engines that have ever been put in a vehicle.

But the federal mandates to squeeze more and more fractions of a mile out of each vehicle extrapolated over a fleet of millions of vehicles produced annually dictated getting rid of one of the best engines that has ever existed, and replacing it with a a far more complicated, harder working, higher compression, shorter-lived DOHC V6.

The current Pentastar V6 isn’t a bad motor….but it will never have the reliability or longevity of the inline 6 it replaced. Even though it makes 100 MORE horsepower than the old 4.0L, it still feels less powerful. And this switch was made just to achieve a .7 mpg improvement over the old engine.


The government f**ks up everything they touch.

Guess PP was right about the MAGAs.

My friend had one back in HS in the 80s (as many HS girls did back then). It got like 8 mph - on the highway.

So because you insisted on driving around with a vehicle in desperate need of a carburetor adjustment (because you should’ve been getting about 15-17 mpg in an 1980’s CJ) that’s somehow Jeep’s fault? Because you wouldn’t fix it?

Got it.

1. Wasn’t my car.

2. EPA estimates are optimistic and probably assume hardtop. Doors and windows flapping around weren’t helping.

3. It was a terrible car but many girls liked them because they were “cute”.

Getting a really strong-unpopular-kid-becomes-resentful-adult vibe.

Because my HS friend had a jeep with very low gas mileage?

Ok…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're constantly given low reliability, resale and safety ratings from Consumer Reports and countless other automobile reviewers. While some may argue the tough American image they portray, they're currently owned by Stellantis, which is headquartered in the Netherlands. Everyone I know who owns one has had some major repair come up prior to hitting 100K, and many of them are extremely overpriced for the quality you get. (Grand Wagoneer)

Why on earth do some many people buy Jeep brand vehicles?

The obvious response I'm sure I'll get is "They're fun cars", but I'll counter with my previous comments and ask if a fun vehicle is worth all the above listed aggravations and warnings from so many reputable industry experts.

To answer your question -- yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They're constantly given low reliability, resale and safety ratings from Consumer Reports and countless other automobile reviewers. While some may argue the tough American image they portray, they're currently owned by Stellantis, which is headquartered in the Netherlands. Everyone I know who owns one has had some major repair come up prior to hitting 100K, and many of them are extremely overpriced for the quality you get. (Grand Wagoneer)

Why on earth do some many people buy Jeep brand vehicles?

The obvious response I'm sure I'll get is "They're fun cars", but I'll counter with my previous comments and ask if a fun vehicle is worth all the above listed aggravations and warnings from so many reputable industry experts.

To answer your question -- yes.

+1. Love my Jeep. Makes me smile. It’s my happy place.

[Anonymous]

I liked having a wrangler when I was single and kid/responsibility free. They're otherwise very uncomfortable, noisy drives with numb handling. Not fun at all as a daily. People driving them to and from work in the DMV are engaging in a willful act of self harm.

[Anonymous]

I love my Jeep Grand Cherokee. I can drive through 20 inches of unplowed snow with no problem. That's with the stock tires on it. Its the superior Quadtra Trac II 4 wheel drive system. Large 8 cy. gets me on the beltway and around all the slow pokes. I've hooked up a dump trailer filled with fire wood and hauled it home. I pull horse trailers too. I can fold down the back seat and sleep in the back with my wife while camping. I've been driving them for over 50 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're constantly given low reliability, resale and safety ratings from Consumer Reports and countless other automobile reviewers. While some may argue the tough American image they portray, they're currently owned by Stellantis, which is headquartered in the Netherlands. Everyone I know who owns one has had some major repair come up prior to hitting 100K, and many of them are extremely overpriced for the quality you get. (Grand Wagoneer)

Why on earth do some many people buy Jeep brand vehicles?
It’s a jeep thing, you would not understand.
The obvious response I'm sure I'll get is "They're fun cars", but I'll counter with my previous comments and ask if a fun vehicle is worth all the above listed aggravations and warnings from so many reputable industry experts.