WashU and Emory

[Anonymous]

William and Mary. not SEC or ACC or Big 10 but lots of energy on campus, and might check off some boxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would love to know name of a medium size school with active sports culture, bonfires, etc. Sounds great!

Wake Forest, they played Ole Miss yesterday. It was a blowout but everyone still had fun. Back to ACC games and a reasonable chance at victory next week. Best part of this all comes in a package where kids have slac size classes and close relationships with professors. If my child misses a class, her professors will email her.

Op: Thank you! This is great information and much-appreciated! I am just now learning about that school.

Since you are a prestige whore I doubt this will work for you. I gather you didn’t learn about it before because while it would show up in a simple search if that is what your daughter wanted…it’s not in the Top 25.

DP; do not be too offended the PP missed Duke and Notre Dame too. And Wake is still T25 in my book, as it was 2 short yrs ago when the rankings were based on class size and actual academic factors. It is ivy-like and amazing, as are WashU, Emory and William and Mary(no rah-rah sports there though). Anyone who knows anything about phD/professional school feeders and career launch has Wake on their list.

OP listed Duke and Vandy…missed ND in just going down the rankings.

[Anonymous]

I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: she wants a school that has academically driven kids, but a strong social vibe as well. She loves duke which and Also likes vanderbilt. Both are academic but with sports and spirit. Both are very hard to get into. Doesn't want a school with just a party reputation...

Definitely check out Wake then.
-- current Vanderbilt parent

I keep hearing wake is the new Vanderbilt.
True?

Maybe? We visited a few times and I get the sense that Wake today is like Vandy was 20+ years ago. In terms of vibes, heavy regional representation, racial and SES demographics and stats of incoming kids.

Vanderbilt today is much more grindy than DCUM realizes, and a lot less SEC tailgate parties with homogenous blonde legacy rich children. OP shouldn't let IG influence her daughter too heavily on these aspects. The reality on the ground is more like Cornell or Northwestern and less like Alabama than TikTok might lead you to believe.

-- current Vanderbilt parent

Yes, this is what i hear about Vanderbilt as well. Have you toured it this year? We toured during the summer and tour group was all Asians and geeky whites. No white preppy kids (ala Vanderbilt of 10 years ago) at all.

PP here. I am a current parent of a vanderbilt student so I don't do tours anymore. I am, however, on campus about 3 times / yr and your assessment of the tour group is pretty close to the group that enrolls.

I do not get this: you seem dismayed and annoyed that Vanderbilt is now filled with Asians and Geeky Whites, which is what all top schools have? I have seen these sentiments on other posts. Not sure if it is all the same disgruntled person, but honestly Vanderbilt skewing that demographic means it is finally getting the ivy/t10 demographic....as a parent of nerds mine sought out smart kid vibe and loved it when the tour guides radiated intellectual/geek vibes. That is how the top academic schools are! Geeks are people too, and newsflash they have tons of fun and parties. Sorry if Vanderbilt alums do not understand they should celebrate their school finally being close to ivy-level intelligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

That is your mistake, it is in that range

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

Do you think Babson is the second best school in the country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

You are speaking to more than one person, for what it’s worth. If you don’t think Wake is good enough for your kid, don’t send them there, problem solved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here: she wants a school that has academically driven kids, but a strong social vibe as well. She loves duke which and Also likes vanderbilt. Both are academic but with sports and spirit. Both are very hard to get into. Doesn't want a school with just a party reputation...

Definitely check out Wake then.
-- current Vanderbilt parent

I keep hearing wake is the new Vanderbilt.
True?

Maybe? We visited a few times and I get the sense that Wake today is like Vandy was 20+ years ago. In terms of vibes, heavy regional representation, racial and SES demographics and stats of incoming kids.

Vanderbilt today is much more grindy than DCUM realizes, and a lot less SEC tailgate parties with homogenous blonde legacy rich children. OP shouldn't let IG influence her daughter too heavily on these aspects. The reality on the ground is more like Cornell or Northwestern and less like Alabama than TikTok might lead you to believe.

-- current Vanderbilt parent

Yes, this is what i hear about Vanderbilt as well. Have you toured it this year? We toured during the summer and tour group was all Asians and geeky whites. No white preppy kids (ala Vanderbilt of 10 years ago) at all.

PP here. I am a current parent of a vanderbilt student so I don't do tours anymore. I am, however, on campus about 3 times / yr and your assessment of the tour group is pretty close to the group that enrolls.

I do not get this: you seem dismayed and annoyed that Vanderbilt is now filled with Asians and Geeky Whites, which is what all top schools have? I have seen these sentiments on other posts. Not sure if it is all the same disgruntled person, but honestly Vanderbilt skewing that demographic means it is finally getting the ivy/t10 demographic....as a parent of nerds mine sought out smart kid vibe and loved it when the tour guides radiated intellectual/geek vibes. That is how the top academic schools are! Geeks are people too, and newsflash they have tons of fun and parties. Sorry if Vanderbilt alums do not understand they should celebrate their school finally being close to ivy-level intelligence.

Maybe you're triggered by PP's use of the word "geeky," is that it? As I said, I'm a current parent -- of a kid accomplished enough to be admitted under today's standards, not 1963 standards. Maybe you are responding to my earlier post, in which I said today's Vandy is much more grindier (competitive, stressed, all-business, all the time) than outsiders realize. I will admit that my kid and their parents ARE dismayed by that.

You seem to be conflating intellectual curiosity and high USNWR rank. You shouldn't do that. You're also confusing "geek" and "grind."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

Do you think Babson is the second best school in the country?

I think if my kid is interested in business, that Babson is a great option and clearly has strong outcomes.

[Anonymous]

I do not think Wake is on part with Vanderbilt, Wash U or Emory. Not even remotely close.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

You are speaking to more than one person, for what it’s worth. If you don’t think Wake is good enough for your kid, don’t send them there, problem solved.

No worries…just wish Wake boosters would stop referencing all the supposed flawed rankings. Then we wouldn’t have these back-and-forths.

Maybe just leave out the rankings…yet it’s always brought up.