WashU and Emory

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Emory and Wake were never peers. Emory has also been T20 for 2 decades. Doesn't matter Wakes new ranking makes more sense.

Emory closer to Wake than Vanderbilt

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Emory is ranked 24, Vandy 18, Wake 47.

Well, we can go year by year for 25 years and for all but one, Wake will be in the top 30. If success rates for first gen and pell grant students are relevant to you, than last year’s rankings will matter, otherwise not so much. I will say that Emory should be commended for its long commitment to Questbridge which definitely helped iin the new rating critieria. Wake hasn’t historically been strong in the area and it should improve. Where Wake is particularly strong is small class sizes, even for introductory classes, and credentialed faculty teaching classes, criteria U.S. News no longer cares about, but I do.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

Do you think Babson is the second best school in the country?

I think if my kid is interested in business, that Babson is a great option and clearly has strong outcomes.

This is a non answer, it’s not business rankings. Do you think Babson is the second best university in the country?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Yeah…but Wake is kid if getting crushed in all rankings including WSJ and Forbes. It’s actually ranked far higher in USNews than the others.

They all have very different methodologies, so it’s not based on the same things.

WSJ and Forbes are complete jokes. WSJ in particular.

So, just to be clear…you think all the rankings are therefore jokes and that according to your personal ranking Wake is a top 25 school.

Is that correct?

Do you think Babson is the second best school in the country?

I think if my kid is interested in business, that Babson is a great option and clearly has strong outcomes.

This is a non answer, it’s not business rankings. Do you think Babson is the second best university in the country?

Yep! I also think Wake is the 137th ranked university in the country.

[Anonymous]

Interesting data from Parchment on where kids chose to attend when admitted to both schools:

Vanderbilt 70 percent, Emory 30 percent
Wake Forest 60 percent, Emory 40 percent
Wash U 76 percent, Emory 24 percent

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If MO stays red and Trump wins you’ve lost your mind sending a kid to WASH U.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data from Parchment on where kids chose to attend when admitted to both schools:

Vanderbilt 70 percent, Emory 30 percent
Wake Forest 60 percent, Emory 40 percent
Wash U 76 percent, Emory 24 percent

This makes sense to me

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Emory and Wake were never peers. Emory has also been T20 for 2 decades. Doesn't matter Wakes new ranking makes more sense.

Emory closer to Wake than Vanderbilt

If trolling makes you feel better
Emory is ranked 24, Vandy 18, Wake 47.

Well, we can go year by year for 25 years and for all but one, Wake will be in the top 30. If success rates for first gen and pell grant students are relevant to you, than last year’s rankings will matter, otherwise not so much. I will say that Emory should be commended for its long commitment to Questbridge which definitely helped iin the new rating critieria. Wake hasn’t historically been strong in the area and it should improve. Where Wake is particularly strong is small class sizes, even for introductory classes, and credentialed faculty teaching classes, criteria U.S. News no longer cares about, but I do.

Top 30, sure, but so are a lot of schools. In Wake's case, it was 27+ in ranking. Until the newest ranking, Wash U was generally ranked highest, Vandy next and Emory last. The last three schools were generally ranked top 20. Which one of these does not belong with the others? W _ _ _.

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Can we redirect this discussion away from bickering about rankings and back to the original question of the social vibe at Emory and WashU? Can someone speak to the Greek life on either campus? It Greek life active? Does it provide a good foundation for social life, particularly in the early years? Where do kids hang out- on campus, in the local beighborhood, in the cities (atlanta/st louis)? I started this thread because heard from a current emory student that campus was super quiet on weekend and that kids went to georgia tech for parties. Thanks...

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Anonymous wrote:Can we redirect this discussion away from bickering about rankings and back to the original question of the social vibe at Emory and WashU? Can someone speak to the Greek life on either campus? It Greek life active? Does it provide a good foundation for social life, particularly in the early years? Where do kids hang out- on campus, in the local beighborhood, in the cities (atlanta/st louis)? I started this thread because heard from a current emory student that campus was super quiet on weekend and that kids went to georgia tech for parties. Thanks...

That’s ridiculous. Know plenty of GA tech kids lamenting their social life.

BTW, that’s not how you started the thread AT ALL. Maybe read your post.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Emory and Wake were never peers. Emory has also been T20 for 2 decades. Doesn't matter Wakes new ranking makes more sense.

Emory closer to Wake than Vanderbilt

If trolling makes you feel better
Emory is ranked 24, Vandy 18, Wake 47.

Well, we can go year by year for 25 years and for all but one, Wake will be in the top 30. If success rates for first gen and pell grant students are relevant to you, than last year’s rankings will matter, otherwise not so much. I will say that Emory should be commended for its long commitment to Questbridge which definitely helped iin the new rating critieria. Wake hasn’t historically been strong in the area and it should improve. Where Wake is particularly strong is small class sizes, even for introductory classes, and credentialed faculty teaching classes, criteria U.S. News no longer cares about, but I do.

It's a testament to Emory, Vandy etc that they remain top ranked schools despite methodology changes. Schools like Wake and Tufts live and die by what's being measured. Emory and Vandy make sure they're good at everything so that methodology changes don't matter much.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting data from Parchment on where kids chose to attend when admitted to both schools:

Vanderbilt 70 percent, Emory 30 percent
Wake Forest 60 percent, Emory 40 percent
Wash U 76 percent, Emory 24 percent

You believe this more than yeild rates? Parchment is self selecting data.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we redirect this discussion away from bickering about rankings and back to the original question of the social vibe at Emory and WashU? Can someone speak to the Greek life on either campus? It Greek life active? Does it provide a good foundation for social life, particularly in the early years? Where do kids hang out- on campus, in the local beighborhood, in the cities (atlanta/st louis)? I started this thread because heard from a current emory student that campus was super quiet on weekend and that kids went to georgia tech for parties. Thanks...

That’s ridiculous. Know plenty of GA tech kids lamenting their social life.

BTW, that’s not how you started the thread AT ALL. Maybe read your post.

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Anonymous wrote:Can we redirect this discussion away from bickering about rankings and back to the original question of the social vibe at Emory and WashU? Can someone speak to the Greek life on either campus? It Greek life active? Does it provide a good foundation for social life, particularly in the early years? Where do kids hang out- on campus, in the local beighborhood, in the cities (atlanta/st louis)? I started this thread because heard from a current emory student that campus was super quiet on weekend and that kids went to georgia tech for parties. Thanks...

Gatech students hate it there. There's so.kuch to do in the city that there's always something to do or go to? Peachtree street is like U street in DC where it's easy to bar hop. There's thousands of people every Friday and Saturday in the spring time. Emory has plenty of parties in the early fall semester with a few frats.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Emory and Wake were never peers. Emory has also been T20 for 2 decades. Doesn't matter Wakes new ranking makes more sense.

Emory closer to Wake than Vanderbilt

If trolling makes you feel better
Emory is ranked 24, Vandy 18, Wake 47.

Well, we can go year by year for 25 years and for all but one, Wake will be in the top 30. If success rates for first gen and pell grant students are relevant to you, than last year’s rankings will matter, otherwise not so much. I will say that Emory should be commended for its long commitment to Questbridge which definitely helped iin the new rating critieria. Wake hasn’t historically been strong in the area and it should improve. Where Wake is particularly strong is small class sizes, even for introductory classes, and credentialed faculty teaching classes, criteria U.S. News no longer cares about, but I do.

It's a testament to Emory, Vandy etc that they remain top ranked schools despite methodology changes. Schools like Wake and Tufts live and die by what's being measured. Emory and Vandy make sure they're good at everything so that methodology changes don't matter much.

Eh. Vanderbilt was ranked 13th in 2023. And it was ranked 18th in 2024. The change in methodology helped Berkeley and UCLA. And hurt Vanderbilt and private universities generally.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't remotely put Wake in the same caliber of schools like Vandy, Emory and WashU.

Before the changes to U.S. News ranking last year to emphasize dei factors, Emory and Wake were both ranked in the 20-30 position for literally two decades. Agree that Vandy and Wash U have been a tier higher.

Emory and Wake were never peers. Emory has also been T20 for 2 decades. Doesn't matter Wakes new ranking makes more sense.

Emory closer to Wake than Vanderbilt

If trolling makes you feel better
Emory is ranked 24, Vandy 18, Wake 47.

Well, we can go year by year for 25 years and for all but one, Wake will be in the top 30. If success rates for first gen and pell grant students are relevant to you, than last year’s rankings will matter, otherwise not so much. I will say that Emory should be commended for its long commitment to Questbridge which definitely helped iin the new rating critieria. Wake hasn’t historically been strong in the area and it should improve. Where Wake is particularly strong is small class sizes, even for introductory classes, and credentialed faculty teaching classes, criteria U.S. News no longer cares about, but I do.

It's a testament to Emory, Vandy etc that they remain top ranked schools despite methodology changes. Schools like Wake and Tufts live and die by what's being measured. Emory and Vandy make sure they're good at everything so that methodology changes don't matter much.

Eh. Vanderbilt was ranked 13th in 2023. And it was ranked 18th in 2024. The change in methodology helped Berkeley and UCLA. And hurt Vanderbilt and private universities generally.

And 18, and 24 are still Top rankings. You can look at US News peer assessment and notice Vandy has a 4.3, Emory a 4.2, Wake a 3.7. In other words 30% of respondants give Wake a 3/5, while 20% of respondants give Emory a 5/5, and 30% for Vandy.