Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

They don’t need to see how the Nazis did it.
We have our own game plans we can trot back out from the 1930s and 1955.
How’s that song go?
“We’ve done it before and we can do it again”

“These were the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by Joseph Dunn, a former California state senator. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the U.S. to first-generation immigrants. For these citizens, deportation wasn’t “repatriation”—it was exile from their country”

https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation

That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/

You act as if the Hispanic vote is a single bloc. It is not. Several of my Hispanic neighbors from Argentina, Uraguay, Peru and other places are frustrated by those who didn’t go through proper channels. Heck, even a couple from Cuba who came in a boat and sought asylum are frustrated. And don’t forget Hispanics who have been here for generations.

What these friends and neighbors with Spanish accents are frustrated about is being lumped into an assumption that they must’ve come without going through the legal process to be here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our schools are in crisis. Illegal immigration is one of the major reasons for this. For that reason alone, we need to do deportations. And before we even start that, they should be refusing to allow illegal migrants to anttend any of our schools.

Ok how are those deportations going to work? Be specific.

Where exactly are invaders getting the papers (the same papers that our required of American citizens) to get into our public schools?

*are

The school my kids attend- no paperwork is needed to enroll the children of illegal immigrants, either for classes or free breakfast and lunch. Why do Americans have to present appropriate paperwork for their children? Shouldn’t all families and children be treated equally?

At our school there are so many FARMS students mostly from Central America they assume every kid is and gives everyone free breakfast in their classrooms to get them started faster every morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

PP, since you work for ICE, could you say more? You're about the only one on this thread who knows what it would really take to implement this campaign promise IRL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

PP, since you work for ICE, could you say more? You're about the only one on this thread who knows what it would really take to implement this campaign promise IRL.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

It will probably involve cutting off access to things. FWIW My family was separated for 10 years and my teenaged American-born uncles were not allowed to return to the US until my grandfather could prove that he could support his entire family in the US without government assistance. Even after he became a citizen he could not bring his wife and minor daughters until he proved he could support them. Because European countries determined citizenship by husband/father for married/unmarried women and girls, they did not qualify for government assistance there and were barely surviving. It was frustrating for sure but no one considered the situation unfair.

Wife and daughter thing sounds fair but it’s hard to believe American citizen children were not allowed to return. Something doesn’t work in this story.

Nope. It’s absolutely true. 1930s during the Great Depression. As grandfather had enough money he brought them over one by one over the course of 10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

Especially the raging men who invaded while shouting Death to America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

PP, since you work for ICE, could you say more? You're about the only one on this thread who knows what it would really take to implement this campaign promise IRL.

Sure. There are only so many hours in a day and resources aren’t infinite. Agents prioritize certain people (gang members, rapists, murderers) over others (mothers, kids). A mass deportation announcement might deter future attempts at illegal crossings, but ICE will prioritize their agents time on deporting those who we really don’t want in this country like gang related associates. These tend to be unmarried males between 16 and 30 give or take.

Now, implementation could be terrible and agents may be told to focus on shear metrics. In that case, it’s natural for agents to go after low hanging fruit to meet their numbers. If you’re an agent, would you risk your behind to target some dangerous gang member or just go after women and kids if it’s all the same for your metrics? That’s where things can become morally questionable. It also clogs the courts with appeals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

PP, since you work for ICE, could you say more? You're about the only one on this thread who knows what it would really take to implement this campaign promise IRL.

Sure. There are only so many hours in a day and resources aren’t infinite. Agents prioritize certain people (gang members, rapists, murderers) over others (mothers, kids). A mass deportation announcement might deter future attempts at illegal crossings, but ICE will prioritize their agents time on deporting those who we really don’t want in this country like gang related associates. These tend to be unmarried males between 16 and 30 give or take.

Now, implementation could be terrible and agents may be told to focus on shear metrics. In that case, it’s natural for agents to go after low hanging fruit to meet their numbers. If you’re an agent, would you risk your behind to target some dangerous gang member or just go after women and kids if it’s all the same for your metrics? That’s where things can become morally questionable. It also clogs the courts with appeals.

You all think ICE would be the only agency involved in this effort?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

They don’t need to see how the Nazis did it.
We have our own game plans we can trot back out from the 1930s and 1955.
How’s that song go?
“We’ve done it before and we can do it again”

“These were the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by Joseph Dunn, a former California state senator. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the U.S. to first-generation immigrants. For these citizens, deportation wasn’t “repatriation”—it was exile from their country”

https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation

That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/

You act as if the Hispanic vote is a single bloc. It is not. Several of my Hispanic neighbors from Argentina, Uraguay, Peru and other places are frustrated by those who didn’t go through proper channels. Heck, even a couple from Cuba who came in a boat and sought asylum are frustrated. And don’t forget Hispanics who have been here for generations.

What these friends and neighbors with Spanish accents are frustrated about is being lumped into an assumption that they must’ve come without going through the legal process to be here.

Well, that's what ICE will do. Read up on how they conducted mass deportations back in the early 20th century. So, if they vote for Trump and this happens to them, karma.

Speaking of Cubans, they are the worst hypocrites in terms of illegal immigrants seeking asylum in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.

I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).

PP, since you work for ICE, could you say more? You're about the only one on this thread who knows what it would really take to implement this campaign promise IRL.

Sure. There are only so many hours in a day and resources aren’t infinite. Agents prioritize certain people (gang members, rapists, murderers) over others (mothers, kids). A mass deportation announcement might deter future attempts at illegal crossings, but ICE will prioritize their agents time on deporting those who we really don’t want in this country like gang related associates. These tend to be unmarried males between 16 and 30 give or take.

Now, implementation could be terrible and agents may be told to focus on shear metrics. In that case, it’s natural for agents to go after low hanging fruit to meet their numbers. If you’re an agent, would you risk your behind to target some dangerous gang member or just go after women and kids if it’s all the same for your metrics? That’s where things can become morally questionable. It also clogs the courts with appeals.

You all think ICE would be the only agency involved in this effort?

dp... who else actually rounds up illegal immigrants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

They don’t need to see how the Nazis did it.
We have our own game plans we can trot back out from the 1930s and 1955.
How’s that song go?
“We’ve done it before and we can do it again”

“These were the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by Joseph Dunn, a former California state senator. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the U.S. to first-generation immigrants. For these citizens, deportation wasn’t “repatriation”—it was exile from their country”

https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation

That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/

You act as if the Hispanic vote is a single bloc. It is not. Several of my Hispanic neighbors from Argentina, Uraguay, Peru and other places are frustrated by those who didn’t go through proper channels. Heck, even a couple from Cuba who came in a boat and sought asylum are frustrated. And don’t forget Hispanics who have been here for generations.

What these friends and neighbors with Spanish accents are frustrated about is being lumped into an assumption that they must’ve come without going through the legal process to be here.

Well, that's what ICE will do. Read up on how they conducted mass deportations back in the early 20th century. So, if they vote for Trump and this happens to them, karma.

Speaking of Cubans, they are the worst hypocrites in terms of illegal immigrants seeking asylum in this country.

I am familiar with deportations back then as I have relatives who were deported. I also have also known people who overstayed their student visas and were deported. They were all European. Everyone who comes here should be vetted and then vetted again before getting citizenship. I have no issue deporting people who do not qualify to be here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

They don’t need to see how the Nazis did it.
We have our own game plans we can trot back out from the 1930s and 1955.
How’s that song go?
“We’ve done it before and we can do it again”

“These were the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by Joseph Dunn, a former California state senator. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the U.S. to first-generation immigrants. For these citizens, deportation wasn’t “repatriation”—it was exile from their country”

https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation

That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/

You act as if the Hispanic vote is a single bloc. It is not. Several of my Hispanic neighbors from Argentina, Uraguay, Peru and other places are frustrated by those who didn’t go through proper channels. Heck, even a couple from Cuba who came in a boat and sought asylum are frustrated. And don’t forget Hispanics who have been here for generations.

What these friends and neighbors with Spanish accents are frustrated about is being lumped into an assumption that they must’ve come without going through the legal process to be here.

Well, that's what ICE will do. Read up on how they conducted mass deportations back in the early 20th century. So, if they vote for Trump and this happens to them, karma.

Speaking of Cubans, they are the worst hypocrites in terms of illegal immigrants seeking asylum in this country.

I am familiar with deportations back then as I have relatives who were deported. I also have also known people who overstayed their student visas and were deported. They were all European. Everyone who comes here should be vetted and then vetted again before getting citizenship. I have no issue deporting people who do not qualify to be here.

+1 seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our schools are in crisis. Illegal immigration is one of the major reasons for this. For that reason alone, we need to do deportations. And before we even start that, they should be refusing to allow illegal migrants to anttend any of our schools.

Ok how are those deportations going to work? Be specific.

Where exactly are invaders getting the papers (the same papers that our required of American citizens) to get into our public schools?

*are

The school my kids attend- no paperwork is needed to enroll the children of illegal immigrants, either for classes or free breakfast and lunch. Why do Americans have to present appropriate paperwork for their children? Shouldn’t all families and children be treated equally?

At our school there are so many FARMS students mostly from Central America they assume every kid is and gives everyone free breakfast in their classrooms to get them started faster every morning.

All FARMs schools do this. My kids go to a Title 1 school everyone gets free meals, at least in DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA will need to consult history books to see how the Nazis did it.

They don’t need to see how the Nazis did it.
We have our own game plans we can trot back out from the 1930s and 1955.
How’s that song go?
“We’ve done it before and we can do it again”

“These were the “repatriation drives,” a series of informal raids that took place around the United States during the Great Depression. Local governments and officials deported up to 1.8 million people to Mexico, according to research conducted by Joseph Dunn, a former California state senator. Dunn estimates around 60 percent of these people were actually American citizens, many of them born in the U.S. to first-generation immigrants. For these citizens, deportation wasn’t “repatriation”—it was exile from their country”

https://www.history.com/news/great-depression-repatriation-drives-mexico-deportation

That's the fear, IMO. This will lead to profiling, and fear, such that all brown looking people will feel the need to carry around their birth certificate or passport to prove that they are US citizens.

There are some Hispanics who support Trump, and it would be the height of irony for these people to get rounded up. It's like that restaurant owner in the midwest who voted for Trump, then her illegal immigrant husband who had lived here for over a decade got deported. She thought Trump would only go after "those" people, not her husband. How stupid she was.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-immigration-crackdown-causes-some-to-rethink-their-vote/

You act as if the Hispanic vote is a single bloc. It is not. Several of my Hispanic neighbors from Argentina, Uraguay, Peru and other places are frustrated by those who didn’t go through proper channels. Heck, even a couple from Cuba who came in a boat and sought asylum are frustrated. And don’t forget Hispanics who have been here for generations.

What these friends and neighbors with Spanish accents are frustrated about is being lumped into an assumption that they must’ve come without going through the legal process to be here.

Well, that's what ICE will do. Read up on how they conducted mass deportations back in the early 20th century. So, if they vote for Trump and this happens to them, karma.

Speaking of Cubans, they are the worst hypocrites in terms of illegal immigrants seeking asylum in this country.

I am familiar with deportations back then as I have relatives who were deported. I also have also known people who overstayed their student visas and were deported. They were all European. Everyone who comes here should be vetted and then vetted again before getting citizenship. I have no issue deporting people who do not qualify to be here.

+1 seriously.

+2

[Anonymous]

Illegals by state- California 2.2, Texas 1.6, Florida 1.1 million most in south Florida and New York 850,000. After that it New Jersey, Illinois, Georgia, North Carolina and Nevada with 500,000 to 225,000. There are double or triple those numbers of legal immigrants in those states.

So California, New York and New Jersey will fight this. Florida, Texas and every red state will be busting down doors and moving people to concentration camps.

So look at Texas 1.6 million illegal with another 4 million legal immigrants. About 20% of the population. There is a lot of cross over in these communities. The Red states will round up legal and illegal immigrants.

This will be a sh#tshow. Places like Florida and Texas will confiscate property and arrest legal migrants. South Florida 70% of the population first language is Spanish.

This will be a grifters paradise. Prefect for republicans and conservatives.