Walk me through the logistics of mass deportations

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Can noncitizens receive Social Security benefits or Supplemental Security (SSI)?

Lawfully present noncitizens of the United States who meet all eligibility requirements can qualify for Social Security benefits. This rule also applies to noncitizens authorized to work in the United States who got a Social Security number after December 2003. For more information visit our Immigration page.

Noncitizens of the United States must meet certain requirements to continue receiving benefits outside of the United States. We stop payments to noncitizens who do not meet these requirements after they are outside the United States for 6 calendar months in a row. If we stopped your payments, we will not start them again until you return to the United States and remain for a full calendar month. For more information visit our International Programs page.

Some noncitizens may qualify for SSI. However, the SSI eligibility requirements are different from those for Social Security benefits.

https://faq.ssa.gov/en-US/Topic/article/KA-02447


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UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES MAY A NONCITIZEN BE ELIGIBLE FOR SSI?

A noncitizen (also called an "alien" for immigration purposes) may be eligible for Supplemental Security Income (SSI) if he or she meets the requirements of the laws for noncitizens that went into effect on August 22, 1996. In general, beginning August 22, 1996, most noncitizens must meet two requirements to be potentially eligible for SSI:

small blue and black arrowbe in a qualified alien category; and

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IMPORTANT: A noncitizen must also meet all of the other rules for SSI eligibility, including the limits on income and resources, etc.
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WHO IS A QUALIFIED ALIEN?

There are 7 categories of qualified aliens. You are a qualified alien if the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) says you are in one of these categories:

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In addition, you can be a “deemed qualified alien” if, under certain circumstances, you, your child, or your parent were subjected to battery or extreme cruelty by a family member while in the United States.

https://www.ssa.gov/ssi/spotlights/spot-non-citizens.htm

(Don’t look now but the government calls people “aliens.”)

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SSI means you get medicaid and food stamps also. Israel and the Jewish community can provide those programs and benefits to illegal immigrants and “aliens.”
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Anonymous wrote:Our schools are in crisis. Illegal immigration is one of the major reasons for this. For that reason alone, we need to do deportations. And before we even start that, they should be refusing to allow illegal migrants to anttend any of our schools.


Ok how are those deportations going to work? Be specific.

Where exactly are invaders getting the papers (the same papers that our required of American citizens) to get into our public schools?

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our schools are in crisis. Illegal immigration is one of the major reasons for this. For that reason alone, we need to do deportations. And before we even start that, they should be refusing to allow illegal migrants to anttend any of our schools.


Ok how are those deportations going to work? Be specific.

Where exactly are invaders getting the papers (the same papers that our required of American citizens) to get into our public schools?

*are


The school my kids attend- no paperwork is needed to enroll the children of illegal immigrants, either for classes or free breakfast and lunch. Why do Americans have to present appropriate paperwork for their children? Shouldn’t all families and children be treated equally?
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


You start by not letting people in.

To answer your other question, having an American child is not a barrier to deportation. Thousands of immigrants with American children are getting deported every year. The anchor baby thing is a bunch of nonsense. Babies don’t anchor.


You didn't answer the question. Does the baby get deported too? The American citizen child?


Like everything else, it’s up to the parents. Take the child with them or leave with guardians here. Baby can stay, parents can’t. It happens every day.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


You start by not letting people in.

To answer your other question, having an American child is not a barrier to deportation. Thousands of immigrants with American children are getting deported every year. The anchor baby thing is a bunch of nonsense. Babies don’t anchor.


You didn't answer the question. Does the baby get deported too? The American citizen child?


Like everything else, it’s up to the parents. Take the child with them or leave with guardians here. Baby can stay, parents can’t. It happens every day.


+1 absolutely.
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In the event this has not been posted already, Stephen Miller is on video explaining his plan to deport large numbers of people.
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And wreck our economy at the same time.


If the strength of the economy depends upon people breaking the law, then the laws need to be changed. Clearly, we need to let more people in legally, but that doesn't justify employers' breaking the law as it exists now.
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


I work for ICE. My guess is there would be a declaration of mass deportation but agents will need to prioritize resources. So, the declaration from the WH will scare those who entered illegally but in actuality resources will be deployed to remove high risk individuals (young men).
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


It will probably involve cutting off access to things. FWIW My family was separated for 10 years and my teenaged American-born uncles were not allowed to return to the US until my grandfather could prove that he could support his entire family in the US without government assistance. Even after he became a citizen he could not bring his wife and minor daughters until he proved he could support them. Because European countries determined citizenship by husband/father for married/unmarried women and girls, they did not qualify for government assistance there and were barely surviving. It was frustrating for sure but no one considered the situation unfair.
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Anonymous wrote:It’s not realistic because the country people are getting deported to has to agree to take them back.

Plenty of countries like Cambodia, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Hong Kong, India, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Pakistan and Russia and Venezuela won’t take back deported citizens and/or frequently pause accepting their deported citizens. There are over 100,000 people the US is waiting to deport but their countries won’t take them.


Hi, country? You get no US aid, nor do you get to trade. They change their minds fast


Or they turn to China or Russsia or …?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


It will probably involve cutting off access to things. FWIW My family was separated for 10 years and my teenaged American-born uncles were not allowed to return to the US until my grandfather could prove that he could support his entire family in the US without government assistance. Even after he became a citizen he could not bring his wife and minor daughters until he proved he could support them. Because European countries determined citizenship by husband/father for married/unmarried women and girls, they did not qualify for government assistance there and were barely surviving. It was frustrating for sure but no one considered the situation unfair.


Wife and daughter thing sounds fair but it’s hard to believe American citizen children were not allowed to return. Something doesn’t work in this story.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s not realistic because the country people are getting deported to has to agree to take them back.

Plenty of countries like Cambodia, China, Cuba, Eritrea, Hong Kong, India, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Pakistan and Russia and Venezuela won’t take back deported citizens and/or frequently pause accepting their deported citizens. There are over 100,000 people the US is waiting to deport but their countries won’t take them.


Hi, country? You get no US aid, nor do you get to trade. They change their minds fast


Or they turn to China or Russsia or …?

or Zelensky.
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Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


Are you aware that approximately thirty thousand American born children are deported with their undocumented parents every year? The answer to your last question already exists.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Putting aside the issue of morality or whatever you believe is right for the country. How exactly is this going to work? Door by door to round up 20 million people? Busses? Trains? Who is going to guard the deportees? Are we going to drop them off in Mexico?Fly them home? Where will the money come from? What if two illegal aliens have an American born child? What will happen to the kid?

I'm genuinely asking.


You start by not letting people in.

To answer your other question, having an American child is not a barrier to deportation. Thousands of immigrants with American children are getting deported every year. The anchor baby thing is a bunch of nonsense. Babies don’t anchor.


You didn't answer the question. Does the baby get deported too? The American citizen child?


The child goes with the parent unless the parent decides to let go of parental rights and leave with a relative or adoption. parents’ choice.
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