MoCo Cold Case Cracked After 23 Years- Leslie Preer

[Anonymous]

Another update on his life trajectory:

https://wapo.st/3RNEKOB

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I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes i can’t get past the part about how he wasn’t even interviewed. The dad suspected him and so did the tipper/ neighbor. Did the detective do a crap job or know the guy and his family. Tragedy all around.

Everyone keeps saying the dad suspected him. The article doesn’t say the dad suspected him of murder, just that he always had a bad feeling about him, which one would about a drug user who is dating your daughter (even if you didn’t realize he was a drug user at the time but you jus felt like something was off about him).

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

Be prepared to wait a while. The legal team he hired indicates that they are going to fight this tooth & nail.

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Anonymous wrote:Another update on his life trajectory:

https://wapo.st/3RNEKOB

This article makes me wonder more about mom.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this the murderer’s father? Geez.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_D._Gligor

This is his mother (and step-mother):
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/29/fashion/weddings/judith-graves-maryellen-madden.html

Well then.

Note that everyone in the suspect’s family is CS ++. Also interesting that he doesn’t seem to have received a college degree despite his super smarty mom AND dad

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I want to know why they thought to grab his DNA 20+ years after the fact and not sooner. Did he blab to someone, who then spoke to police?

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know why they thought to grab his DNA 20+ years after the fact and not sooner. Did he blab to someone, who then spoke to police?

Forensic genealogy.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

My theory is that Leslie left for work but realized she forgot something at home. She called her office (Were cell phones widely used in 1995?) to say she would be late for a meeting, returned home, and found Eugene inside looking for money or valuables to buy drugs. She confronted him. He attacked her, she fought back but he overpowered her and killed her. In a panic, he dragged her upstairs to clean up, perhaps trying to remove any traces of his own blood (Was he injured?), and then fled.

Meanwhile, Leslie's colleague grew concerned when she didn't show up for their meeting. He repeatedly called her home, then contacted her husband, who confirmed he was unaware of any changes to her plans or emergencies. Both rushed home, and the rest we know from the news.

I wonder if Eugene heard the concerned messages on the house answering machine and fled the house realizing that the husband and the colleague were on their way to check on her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

My theory is that Leslie left for work but realized she forgot something at home. She called her office (Were cell phones widely used in 1995?) to say she would be late for a meeting, returned home, and found Eugene inside looking for money or valuables to buy drugs. She confronted him. He attacked her, she fought back but he overpowered her and killed her. In a panic, he dragged her upstairs to clean up, perhaps trying to remove any traces of his own blood (Was he injured?), and then fled.

Meanwhile, Leslie's colleague grew concerned when she didn't show up for their meeting. He repeatedly called her home, then contacted her husband, who confirmed he was unaware of any changes to her plans or emergencies. Both rushed home, and the rest we know from the news.

I wonder if Eugene heard the concerned messages on the house answering machine and fled the house realizing that the husband and the colleague were on their way to check on her.

Not a bad theory but the murder was in 2001, not 1995 - that’s when the daughter and the murderer graduated. Definitely cell phones were widely used by 40-something professionals in 2001.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

My theory is that Leslie left for work but realized she forgot something at home. She called her office (Were cell phones widely used in 1995?) to say she would be late for a meeting, returned home, and found Eugene inside looking for money or valuables to buy drugs. She confronted him. He attacked her, she fought back but he overpowered her and killed her. In a panic, he dragged her upstairs to clean up, perhaps trying to remove any traces of his own blood (Was he injured?), and then fled.

Meanwhile, Leslie's colleague grew concerned when she didn't show up for their meeting. He repeatedly called her home, then contacted her husband, who confirmed he was unaware of any changes to her plans or emergencies. Both rushed home, and the rest we know from the news.

I wonder if Eugene heard the concerned messages on the house answering machine and fled the house realizing that the husband and the colleague were on their way to check on her.

Not a bad theory but the murder was in 2001, not 1995 - that’s when the daughter and the murderer graduated. Definitely cell phones were widely used by 40-something professionals in 2001.

Right, 2001. I mixed up the years.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

My theory is that Leslie left for work but realized she forgot something at home. She called her office (Were cell phones widely used in 1995?) to say she would be late for a meeting, returned home, and found Eugene inside looking for money or valuables to buy drugs. She confronted him. He attacked her, she fought back but he overpowered her and killed her. In a panic, he dragged her upstairs to clean up, perhaps trying to remove any traces of his own blood (Was he injured?), and then fled.

Meanwhile, Leslie's colleague grew concerned when she didn't show up for their meeting. He repeatedly called her home, then contacted her husband, who confirmed he was unaware of any changes to her plans or emergencies. Both rushed home, and the rest we know from the news.

I wonder if Eugene heard the concerned messages on the house answering machine and fled the house realizing that the husband and the colleague were on their way to check on her.

Not a bad theory but the murder was in 2001, not 1995 - that’s when the daughter and the murderer graduated. Definitely cell phones were widely used by 40-something professionals in 2001.

I'm the pp with of this theory. Maybe he was actually trying to stage the accident scene and would have finished cleaning if not for the colleague who didn't dismiss Leslie's absence and kept looking for her.

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My fear is that he will try to make claims that a dead woman from 23 years ago cannot disprove. He will probably claim they were having an affair, hence why his DNA is under her fingernails. He will likely claim that she attacked him because he wanted to break up with her and his “self defense” got out of hand. Then he tried to clean up the scene and fled in a state of panic. There will be little evidence or contemporaneous accounts to disprove any potential tales he tries to weave.

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Anonymous wrote:My fear is that he will try to make claims that a dead woman from 23 years ago cannot disprove. He will probably claim they were having an affair, hence why his DNA is under her fingernails. He will likely claim that she attacked him because he wanted to break up with her and his “self defense” got out of hand. Then he tried to clean up the scene and fled in a state of panic. There will be little evidence or contemporaneous accounts to disprove any potential tales he tries to weave.

Maybe he will claim that they were having a passionate affair - hence his DNA under her fingernails - and were together on the day of her murder, but that he left before she was attacked. He could argue that he didn’t come forward earlier because he didn’t want to upset her grieving family.

It is of course wildly improbable that the victim would have had a passionate affair with her daughters ex boyfriend. And he likely has no corroboration for his claims. I hope they nail him and figure out what the motive was, if anything.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I want to know his motive for killing her. That is all.

My theory is that Leslie left for work but realized she forgot something at home. She called her office (Were cell phones widely used in 1995?) to say she would be late for a meeting, returned home, and found Eugene inside looking for money or valuables to buy drugs. She confronted him. He attacked her, she fought back but he overpowered her and killed her. In a panic, he dragged her upstairs to clean up, perhaps trying to remove any traces of his own blood (Was he injured?), and then fled.

Meanwhile, Leslie's colleague grew concerned when she didn't show up for their meeting. He repeatedly called her home, then contacted her husband, who confirmed he was unaware of any changes to her plans or emergencies. Both rushed home, and the rest we know from the news.

I wonder if Eugene heard the concerned messages on the house answering machine and fled the house realizing that the husband and the colleague were on their way to check on her.

I think this sounds plausible. I wonder if the police found any signs of forced entry. If not, did he have a key.