Took 1.5 years to find this hire and she quits after a week

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She’s probably lying, but that’s ok. It’s life.

Why do you think that. She could be telling the truth? She did tell op beforehand what was going on.

I wouldnt nec. say she is lying, but it does seem possible. Even before I read the actual post, the idea of it taking it that long to find someone who then quits immediately raises huge red flags about the experience candidate would have/anticipate having in this role. the lack of self- awreness from OP of how this sounds in her post further makes me wonder

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She obviously doesn't want to work in that role. She may be lying about the caregiving, or she may not be. If she really wantedh to stay in the role and there was indeed a family crisis, she could have asked for unpaid leave, remote work, etc. but she didn't and it's clear she doesn't want to work for you. It shouldn't take 1.5 years to fill a role. There is obviously something dysfunctional in the organization or management if that is the case

Can you ask for remote work as a new hire when that’s not the company’s policy though?

DP here: you can ask for anything when you're going through the hiring process. The company can always say "No" but you won't know unless you ask.

Given that it took the OP 1.5 years to fill the role, they should probably think about relaxing the in-person requirement. It's clear that their inflexible position on remote work is sabotaging the organization from filling the role, especially if it involves a niche skillset.

She did ask during the offer and I said she could do hybrid on two set days after 3 months but if she needed to move one of those days for a doc appointment we could be flexible

[Anonymous]

So to play devil’s advocate here. What would you have done if she asked for accommodations?

I’d bet this was a hybrid lie, like others have said. Clearly there was something the first week that made her NOT want to pursue alternate options or speak to you about accommodations. But the situation itself is probably true. She has no incentive to make up an elaborate story after one week on the job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You suck as a human.

Seriously, you are furious that someone is leaving to take care of a dying family member?

+1 Perspective, OP, perspective.

She didn’t give a 2 weeks notice.

You don't have to - that's just standard practice.

and given shes only been there 10 days, what exaclty would she do during that time? handover?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having managed many people over the past twenty years, I’d say she’s lying. But probably for good reason.

Why do you think she’s lying?

Because it came up too suddenly and very few people’s lives are flexible enough to just pick up and move like that. She planted the seed on Friday to be able to give the excuse on Monday. I’ve had something similar happen to me (only once in my career) and later learned the new employee had just shifted to another job that got her an offer a day after she’d started with us. Didn’t take it personally but it was very frustrating.

I was the one who suggested the lie earlier and all this. People who think this is too elaborate a lie don't know lying. This is nothing. And the reason for it is to not ruin her reputation. She's lying. What's the field and the job, OP?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She obviously doesn't want to work in that role. She may be lying about the caregiving, or she may not be. If she really wantedh to stay in the role and there was indeed a family crisis, she could have asked for unpaid leave, remote work, etc. but she didn't and it's clear she doesn't want to work for you. It shouldn't take 1.5 years to fill a role. There is obviously something dysfunctional in the organization or management if that is the case

Can you ask for remote work as a new hire when that’s not the company’s policy though?

DP here: you can ask for anything when you're going through the hiring process. The company can always say "No" but you won't know unless you ask.

Given that it took the OP 1.5 years to fill the role, they should probably think about relaxing the in-person requirement. It's clear that their inflexible position on remote work is sabotaging the organization from filling the role, especially if it involves a niche skillset.

She did ask during the offer and I said she could do hybrid on two set days after 3 months but if she needed to move one of those days for a doc appointment we could be flexible

None of that is what I would call flexible.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So did you call her and tell her she can work remotely for as long as she needs and you will fly her up for team meetings every X weeks since is the person you need but family comes first?

We don’t do remote work

Well then the market is telling you something about this role if you can’t find someone in 1.5 years to stick it out. Either offer remote work, increase the pay, or both. Or break up the job into more than one role with easier to find people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having managed many people over the past twenty years, I’d say she’s lying. But probably for good reason.

Why do you think she’s lying?

Because it came up too suddenly and very few people’s lives are flexible enough to just pick up and move like that. She planted the seed on Friday to be able to give the excuse on Monday. I’ve had something similar happen to me (only once in my career) and later learned the new employee had just shifted to another job that got her an offer a day after she’d started with us. Didn’t take it personally but it was very frustrating.

Companies do all sort of stringing people along and will dump employees in a heartbeat to maximize shareholder profit. So I can’t say I blame someone for taking a better job that comes along.

And perhaps she did get a job offer out where her FIL lives. Perhaps they had been toying with the idea of re-locating but it wasn’t lining up and then all of a sudden he got sick and a job offer out there came through. People have to live their lives for themselves, not some boss they barely know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So did you call her and tell her she can work remotely for as long as she needs and you will fly her up for team meetings every X weeks since is the person you need but family comes first?

We don’t do remote work

Adapt or die.

[Anonymous]

She is totally lying. She doesnt want to work for you anymore (why? I dont know) but doesnt want to burn the bridge so she needs a palatable excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having managed many people over the past twenty years, I’d say she’s lying. But probably for good reason.

Why do you think she’s lying?

Because it came up too suddenly and very few people’s lives are flexible enough to just pick up and move like that. She planted the seed on Friday to be able to give the excuse on Monday. I’ve had something similar happen to me (only once in my career) and later learned the new employee had just shifted to another job that got her an offer a day after she’d started with us. Didn’t take it personally but it was very frustrating.

I was the one who suggested the lie earlier and all this. People who think this is too elaborate a lie don't know lying. This is nothing. And the reason for it is to not ruin her reputation. She's lying. What's the field and the job, OP?

It’s HR and she’s a specialist

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She is totally lying. She doesnt want to work for you anymore (why? I dont know) but doesnt want to burn the bridge so she needs a palatable excuse.

Why would she care about burning a bridge with people she’s known a week? Quitting after a week, no matter the reason, isn’t going to be good so she didn’t have to come up with her in law has dementia - it’s too much

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having managed many people over the past twenty years, I’d say she’s lying. But probably for good reason.

Why do you think she’s lying?

Because it came up too suddenly and very few people’s lives are flexible enough to just pick up and move like that. She planted the seed on Friday to be able to give the excuse on Monday. I’ve had something similar happen to me (only once in my career) and later learned the new employee had just shifted to another job that got her an offer a day after she’d started with us. Didn’t take it personally but it was very frustrating.

I was the one who suggested the lie earlier and all this. People who think this is too elaborate a lie don't know lying. This is nothing. And the reason for it is to not ruin her reputation. She's lying. What's the field and the job, OP?

It’s HR and she’s a specialist

HR and not remote? No way was she staying. We just hired 2 new HR people and one a director for a mid size company thats expanding with offices around the country. Of course they are remote but with travel expected (and paid for) to main locations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Having managed many people over the past twenty years, I’d say she’s lying. But probably for good reason.

Why do you think she’s lying?

Because it came up too suddenly and very few people’s lives are flexible enough to just pick up and move like that. She planted the seed on Friday to be able to give the excuse on Monday. I’ve had something similar happen to me (only once in my career) and later learned the new employee had just shifted to another job that got her an offer a day after she’d started with us. Didn’t take it personally but it was very frustrating.

I was the one who suggested the lie earlier and all this. People who think this is too elaborate a lie don't know lying. This is nothing. And the reason for it is to not ruin her reputation. She's lying. What's the field and the job, OP?

It’s HR and she’s a specialist

HR and not remote? No way was she staying. We just hired 2 new HR people and one a director for a mid size company thats expanding with offices around the country. Of course they are remote but with travel expected (and paid for) to main locations.

Then why take the job?

[Anonymous]

Does she by any chance qualify for Cobra because she started and completed a few days?