Took 1.5 years to find this hire and she quits after a week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She’s probably lying, but that’s ok. It’s life.

I had the same thought.

She ^%$#ing hated it.

It’s a bit elaborate to be faking an entire move to a different city!

But if that’s the case, OP ought to be re-evaluating the whole department overhaul.
You don’t hire a new person and then announce huge changes in every department within the first week! That’s 100% the best way to make every existing g person in the company loathe the new hire and the people who hired her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry. She wasn’t the right person. After 1.5 years you still have not found the right person. I would change the job. If it isn’t fillable, you need to rethink it.

This. LOTS of people are job hunting, so something is wrong with the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She’s probably lying, but that’s ok. It’s life.

The truth is you suck and your job sucks and she got outta there pronto so she does not waste her time. Fcuk you!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That does suck but also it is never good to bring on new hire and immediately have them make changes.

+1 That's a big red flag in a new job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What are you furious about? I doubt she took this decision lightly and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with you. Give the lady some grace.

I am furious because 1) I don’t believe she’s being honest 2) didn’t give a notice

So, you would have rather that she flew back home, gave notice, worked for 2 weeks, then flew back to support her fiance and his family?

What would you have had her do for two weeks, knowing that she was going to be leaving. Would you have assigned her temporary HR work to do? Is there anything that you could have assigned her to do that wasn't on a computer that she couldn't do remotely? I know there is "company policy", but please actually think, instead of just replying like an AI model. You have an employee who has been there about a week, has been going on the meet-and-greet tour, has not even completely onboarding, and they need to leave for a family emergency. Isn't it better that she didn't make the company pay her 2 weeks of salary before off-boarding? And, you can start to work on finding her replacement without having spent a lot of other people's time, trying to teach/train her for 2 weeks of work.

I can understand #1, and, there is reason to be upset (furious seems to be a tad overboard here for something that is not that unusual in HR), but #2 really shouldn't make a difference.

[Anonymous]

If I am your boss and a role goes unfilled for 6 months and the company/organization is just chugging along…I would eliminate the position because it clearly isn’t needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She’s probably lying, but that’s ok. It’s life.

The truth is you suck and your job sucks and she got outta there pronto so she does not waste her time. Fcuk you!!!

Yes OP. This is you not her.

[Anonymous]

If you truly think she is lying, you need to ask yourself what is wrong with the position and the organization that it took you a year and a half to find someone only to have her bail less than two weeks in.

There are a lot of red flags here as others have noted and you seem to be missing them, which is very telling. It’s likely the problem is you as the boss, the organization is toxic and you don’t realize it, or your are expecting a tremendous amount from this person and you are either setting them up to fail or are barely paying them. All of these could explain why nobody wants this job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She's lying. There's something wrong with the position, or you, or the company, for it to take that long to fill and then for someone to quit after one week.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you truly think she is lying, you need to ask yourself what is wrong with the position and the organization that it took you a year and a half to find someone only to have her bail less than two weeks in.

There are a lot of red flags here as others have noted and you seem to be missing them, which is very telling. It’s likely the problem is you as the boss, the organization is toxic and you don’t realize it, or your are expecting a tremendous amount from this person and you are either setting them up to fail or are barely paying them. All of these could explain why nobody wants this job.

100%. I think the 1.5 year search is a huge red flag for the organization.

The fact that somebody quit after a week is another big red flag, whether she's telling the truth or not:
1. The position is so terrible that she knew she had to leave right away and knew you couldn't handle the truth OR
2. She is telling the truth and you don't believe her. Both of those are red flags.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So did you call her and tell her she can work remotely for as long as she needs and you will fly her up for team meetings every X weeks since is the person you need but family comes first?

We don’t do remote work

That’s a you problem.

[Anonymous]

omg I have never been as glad IN MY LIFE AS I was sending the quit email to OP.

OP the idea that the “flexibility” available was 2 prescheduled days/week after 3 months…absolutely not. FIL could be dead in three months.

I got an offer that allowed full remote and I took it. Not sorry. Be mad.

[Anonymous]

Fk OP
HE A LOSER

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She’s probably lying, but that’s ok. It’s life.

Why do you think that. She could be telling the truth? She did tell op beforehand what was going on.

Even before I read the actual post, the idea of it taking it that long to find someone who then quits immediately raises huge red flags about the experience candidate would have/anticipate having in this role. the lack of self- awareness from OP of how this sounds in her post further makes me wonder

+1

Yeah, setting aside the recent hire who quit, the inability to fill a position for 1.5 years screams Red Flags. And OP's "furious" reaction to what happened this week suggests that OP is one of the red flags.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I am your boss and a role goes unfilled for 6 months and the company/organization is just chugging along…I would eliminate the position because it clearly isn’t needed.

Same.



OP I get your frustration generally speaking but you have to be able to look inward at this job, yourself as a hiring manager, and your company as to why it took a year and a half to fill this role. That is a huge red flag.

And then by sheer coincidence, your perfect hire quits after a week... that's no coincidence.

If she's telling the truth I feel badly for her because being out of state, there was no way to know how bad it was until they got there.

If she's lying, see my original statement. Regardless of how professional it was for her to lie, would it have stung any less if she told you that the team is a mess, she doesn't see support systems and processes in place to fix it, and that dropping that on someone in their first week is unreasonable? You would've likely felt worse so now we're just here to say it.

I would never have someone make sweeping evaluations, strategies, and plans for huge changes in their first week. Maybe you were pushing her hard due to how long it took to fill the role but that was a leadership fail on your part. The good news is, none of us are perfect managers and this is a huge learning moment for you, your onboarding process, your approach with future candidates for this role, and potentially how you manage your team currently (why does it need sweeping change is the first question to ask yourself).

Good luck OP, you are a leader and you have the empowerment to change some of these things from within before you even fill this role.