When do CAPE/PARCC results come out?

[Anonymous]

When this test was used in more than just one state, both 3 and 4 were considered by the respective states as acceptable, on-grade scores.

Whether or not you find a 3 acceptable for your particular kid is your call.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:fyi to Banneker parents: yesterday at PT conferences they said they had mailed out CAPE scores this week. Not sure why it happened so late, but they are on their way.

Oh good to know! I didn't think to ask as I assumed that they would be uploaded to Aspen. Unfortunately, we will probably miss them since we just moved.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Got DC cape scores today for 6th grader. Interesting results…kid loves/excels at reading but got a 3 ( 4 points from a 4), loves/excels in math/science where they got 4s. But..what do the results even mean? The breakdown shows that kids did super well in 3/4 categories but bombed the last which leads me to believe that they got bored/rushed through to finish the test. Results state that child did anywhere between 60/80% better than the rest of DC kids but still got 3 and 4s. Curious on others results bc I don’t have any concerns about child academically but can’t help to think there is something off with this entire test. Or maybe it speaks to the need to prep for a test as the school doesn’t do that at all. TIA.

The test isn't like iReady: The questions are intermixed and the subject areas aren't tested in order. Your kid is actually one who got helpful results in the sense that they clearly have an issue in one category. Figure out why.

I was surprised that my kid just missed a 5 in ELA. School seems good at teaching ELA and kid has always been in the 95-99% range on iReady, so was assuming they'd get a 5; but actually, he just ended up at the bottom of that range here and it's a 4. Subresults aren't helpful since they don't distinguish 4 level performance from 5 level performance and, unsurprisingly, having been just under the 5 cutoff overall, all of these are green. Does anyone know if the arrow pointing in the colored boxes in the subcategories is meant to show the place in each box they fell or just point to the box itself? (I assume the latter, since all of his are in the same place, but it's off center, so maybe it is meaningful?)

ELA on PARCC includes writing, i-ready does not. That may be the reason. My own kid is very above grade level on i-ready ELA, but his writing is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Got DC cape scores today for 6th grader. Interesting results…kid loves/excels at reading but got a 3 ( 4 points from a 4), loves/excels in math/science where they got 4s. But..what do the results even mean? The breakdown shows that kids did super well in 3/4 categories but bombed the last which leads me to believe that they got bored/rushed through to finish the test. Results state that child did anywhere between 60/80% better than the rest of DC kids but still got 3 and 4s. Curious on others results bc I don’t have any concerns about child academically but can’t help to think there is something off with this entire test. Or maybe it speaks to the need to prep for a test as the school doesn’t do that at all. TIA.

The test isn't like iReady: The questions are intermixed and the subject areas aren't tested in order. Your kid is actually one who got helpful results in the sense that they clearly have an issue in one category. Figure out why.

I was surprised that my kid just missed a 5 in ELA. School seems good at teaching ELA and kid has always been in the 95-99% range on iReady, so was assuming they'd get a 5; but actually, he just ended up at the bottom of that range here and it's a 4. Subresults aren't helpful since they don't distinguish 4 level performance from 5 level performance and, unsurprisingly, having been just under the 5 cutoff overall, all of these are green. Does anyone know if the arrow pointing in the colored boxes in the subcategories is meant to show the place in each box they fell or just point to the box itself? (I assume the latter, since all of his are in the same place, but it's off center, so maybe it is meaningful?)

ELA on PARCC includes writing, i-ready does not. That may be the reason. My own kid is very above grade level on i-ready ELA, but his writing is not.

PP here. I totally agree that this may be the explanation. It's part of why I'm frustrated that they group 4 & 5 together in the subresults. Obviously writing wasn't a disaster, since the writing subcategories are still green, but given how broad the 4 category is & having missed a 5 by maybe a question or 2, it could still totally be that the two writing categories were low 4s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:fyi to Banneker parents: yesterday at PT conferences they said they had mailed out CAPE scores this week. Not sure why it happened so late, but they are on their way.

Are CAPE scores even useful to evaluate a school like Banneker (or Walls)? Even JR teachers complain about how, at least for math, most of the kids are past the class they test on. Especially the kids you would expect to do well.

Ya this is a good point. Seems like the most useful comparison is for middle schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When this test was used in more than just one state, both 3 and 4 were considered by the respective states as acceptable, on-grade scores.

Whether or not you find a 3 acceptable for your particular kid is your call.

Why do you continue to justify low standards? So what, that was then.
There are no ambiguities here now.

3 is below grade level, 4 is grade level, and 5 is above.

The cutoff is black and white. Instead of saying well 3 used to be grade level so my kid is fine, you should be questioning what deficits your kid has and to work on aiming higher to be at least on grade level.

Your perspective embodies what is so wrong in this city.

[Anonymous]

DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When this test was used in more than just one state, both 3 and 4 were considered by the respective states as acceptable, on-grade scores.

Whether or not you find a 3 acceptable for your particular kid is your call.

Why do you continue to justify low standards? So what, that was then.
There are no ambiguities here now.

3 is below grade level, 4 is grade level, and 5 is above.

The cutoff is black and white. Instead of saying well 3 used to be grade level so my kid is fine, you should be questioning what deficits your kid has and to work on aiming higher to be at least on grade level.

Your perspective embodies what is so wrong in this city.

I have to agree with this. 3 on CAPE is very clearly stated as "approached expectations." It's definitely better than a 1 or 2, but 4 is "met expectations."

https://osse.dc.gov/dccape

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

Yes it is a big deal when your kid can’t write and therefore why they are below grade level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

If your kid tries, doesn’t have a learning disability and speaks English as a first language, then getting a 3 is awful absent some explanation (they were sick that day, computer malfunction, etc). Sorry your standards are so low, but my kids are capable of 5s, so if they don’t get them, I want to know why.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

A couple things here.

Performance on demand is a pretty critical part of life. I it’s important to know if my kid is just a practice all star and freezes in game, and it’s important to know why. You can work on that.

That’s especially true when the bar is pretty low, like it is with PARCC. My kid doesn’t get a 5 on his APs? That’s fine. My kid gets a 3 on PARCC? That’s not at grade level and I don’t know if you’ve looked at the testing standards but those standards are low. It’s less than literate for ELA, for starters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

A couple things here.

Performance on demand is a pretty critical part of life. I it’s important to know if my kid is just a practice all star and freezes in game, and it’s important to know why. You can work on that.

That’s especially true when the bar is pretty low, like it is with PARCC. My kid doesn’t get a 5 on his APs? That’s fine. My kid gets a 3 on PARCC? That’s not at grade level and I don’t know if you’ve looked at the testing standards but those standards are low. It’s less than literate for ELA, for starters.

Uh, this is BS. I care about my kids test scores, but it's more of a reflection of whether they slept well the night before or made the effort than how they will perform in life. What is the major consequence of scoring poorly on PARCC/CAPE? Lack of bragging rights?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

A couple things here.

Performance on demand is a pretty critical part of life. I it’s important to know if my kid is just a practice all star and freezes in game, and it’s important to know why. You can work on that.

That’s especially true when the bar is pretty low, like it is with PARCC. My kid doesn’t get a 5 on his APs? That’s fine. My kid gets a 3 on PARCC? That’s not at grade level and I don’t know if you’ve looked at the testing standards but those standards are low. It’s less than literate for ELA, for starters.

Uh, this is BS. I care about my kids test scores, but it's more of a reflection of whether they slept well the night before or made the effort than how they will perform in life. What is the major consequence of scoring poorly on PARCC/CAPE? Lack of bragging rights?

Do you also feel that way about the SATs? MCAT? Bar exam?

Life is full of high stakes days. Yes, you can retake them... But then you have another high stakes day. Doing well on tests is a valuable life skill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so weird. Missing a 4 by a handful of points (once) on one subject is not a big deal. Maybe your child is good at reading but still needs some work on their writing. It is also a multi-day test so maybe the kid just had an off day. The my child has only ever gotten 5s anything less would be catastrophic posters are so much weirder.

A couple things here.

Performance on demand is a pretty critical part of life. I it’s important to know if my kid is just a practice all star and freezes in game, and it’s important to know why. You can work on that.

That’s especially true when the bar is pretty low, like it is with PARCC. My kid doesn’t get a 5 on his APs? That’s fine. My kid gets a 3 on PARCC? That’s not at grade level and I don’t know if you’ve looked at the testing standards but those standards are low. It’s less than literate for ELA, for starters.

Uh, this is BS. I care about my kids test scores, but it's more of a reflection of whether they slept well the night before or made the effort than how they will perform in life. What is the major consequence of scoring poorly on PARCC/CAPE? Lack of bragging rights?

I do agree that CAPE is weirdly inconsequential and has no bearing on them in any way. My kid moved to a BASIS from a DCPS and we have no clue how he did on CAPE last year, and I'm struggling to find a reason to know. It literally won't make any difference to his future in any way (Basis does all their own assessments to figure out how kids are doing).

[Anonymous]

CAPE is not inconsequential. It is the only widely standradized test that parents in DC have to see if their kid is working below, on, or above grade level. It also shows where your kid stands against all other kids in the city.

Now let me preface this by saying kids in DC are doing very poorly academically so the bar is not high with comparisons. It would be much better if DC used a standardized test that many other states used so you can get at least a better sense of where your kid stands nationwide. That would be a big eye opener to say the least, and not in a positive way either.