What supplements do you take?

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

How do you know they are all the same? This is a serious question. No supplement is regulated for content. Everyone knows this; it is not some secret conspiracy.

I didn't suggest the tests were a conspiracy.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

How do you know they are all the same? This is a serious question. No supplement is regulated for content. Everyone knows this; it is not some secret conspiracy.

I didn't suggest the tests were a conspiracy.

E.g., https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/whats-in-your-supplements-2019021515946

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Anonymous wrote:You guys know supplements don't do anything, right?

so when someones doctor tells them their vitamin D is low and take some and their levels go up that's doing nothing? Same with Iron, Vitamin B, that's NOTHING.

Stop being stupid PP.

A doctor recommending something is different from people diagnosing themselves with needing something and then wasting thousands of dollars on snake oil.

YOU literally said, "You guys know supplements don't do anything, right?"

NOTHING about snake oil or taking things not recommended by a doctor!

NOT THE SAME THING!

You're wasting your money, lady. Eat some healthy food and talk to your doctor, and do not try to self prescribe vitamins.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

How do you know they are all the same? This is a serious question. No supplement is regulated for content. Everyone knows this; it is not some secret conspiracy.

I didn't suggest the tests were a conspiracy.

E.g., https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/whats-in-your-supplements-2019021515946

Your own link says that the ingredients on the supplement is accurate. So by this cite, you ARE actually getting the thing you think you are getting, and the thing your doctor is recommending you take.

It does say that the dosage may be off, or that other ingredients may be added to "enhance the effect."

That leaves you with an informed doctor making an informed risk analysis that it is still worth it for your health to take that supplement.
The article also encourages the reader to follow the advice on their doctor on whether to take the supplement....as people here are suggesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

How do you know they are all the same? This is a serious question. No supplement is regulated for content. Everyone knows this; it is not some secret conspiracy.

I didn't suggest the tests were a conspiracy.

E.g., https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/whats-in-your-supplements-2019021515946

Your own link says that the ingredients on the supplement is accurate. So by this cite, you ARE actually getting the thing you think you are getting, and the thing your doctor is recommending you take.

It does say that the dosage may be off, or that other ingredients may be added to "enhance the effect."

That leaves you with an informed doctor making an informed risk analysis that it is still worth it for your health to take that supplement.
The article also encourages the reader to follow the advice on their doctor on whether to take the supplement....as people here are suggesting.

Also, the FDA does in fact regulate supplements: https://www.fda.gov/food/dietary-supplements

The FDA also recommends that you follow the advice of your doctor on taking supplements:

More Information: Dietary supplements can play a role in improving or maintaining your overall health. Some supplements can help you meet your daily requirements of essential nutrients. Dietary supplements can also have health risks, interact with medications, or interfere with lab tests.
Bottom Line: Before buying or using a dietary supplement, read the product label and talk with a doctor, pharmacist, or other health care professional about any medications you are taking and your overall health. They can help you decide which supplements are right for you.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/rumor-control/facts-about-dietary-supplements

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I think we found the poster who takes piles of self identified pub med citations to their GP appts. Not surprising they are Sherlocking the quality of vitamin D supplements that doctors recommend people take given how much time people spend in doors in modern life.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we found the poster who takes piles of self identified pub med citations to their GP appts. Not surprising they are Sherlocking the quality of vitamin D supplements that doctors recommend people take given how much time people spend in doors in modern life.

I'm the PP of the previous two posts and I genuinely can't tell if you are referring to me or the "supplements are snakeoil" poster I am responding to.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we found the poster who takes piles of self identified pub med citations to their GP appts. Not surprising they are Sherlocking the quality of vitamin D supplements that doctors recommend people take given how much time people spend in doors in modern life.

I'm the PP of the previous two posts and I genuinely can't tell if you are referring to me or the "supplements are snakeoil" poster I am responding to.

Supplements are not regulated for the amount of content of the thing they are supposed to have in them. They are regulated in the sense that they have to be 'safe'. You can never know if you are getting any vitamin D in any vitamin D supplement. I mean, go on taking them, I don't care. You could get the ingredient, or you could just get expensive pee.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we found the poster who takes piles of self identified pub med citations to their GP appts. Not surprising they are Sherlocking the quality of vitamin D supplements that doctors recommend people take given how much time people spend in doors in modern life.

I'm the PP of the previous two posts and I genuinely can't tell if you are referring to me or the "supplements are snakeoil" poster I am responding to.

Supplements are not regulated for the amount of content of the thing they are supposed to have in them. They are regulated in the sense that they have to be 'safe'. You can never know if you are getting any vitamin D in any vitamin D supplement. I mean, go on taking them, I don't care. You could get the ingredient, or you could just get expensive pee.

Two things. 1) it’s called testing. It’s common. You test your levels. That’s how you find out if what you are taking is effective. And you might also go outside, and not find pedantic things to focus on.

2) none of this is very expensive moron

Vitamin D supplementation is the most common recommendation by GPs. Research supports blood serum levels in certain bands being beneficial for all sorts of reasons.

The dumb ass hills people decide to defend are hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:I think we found the poster who takes piles of self identified pub med citations to their GP appts. Not surprising they are Sherlocking the quality of vitamin D supplements that doctors recommend people take given how much time people spend in doors in modern life.

I'm the PP of the previous two posts and I genuinely can't tell if you are referring to me or the "supplements are snakeoil" poster I am responding to.

Supplements are not regulated for the amount of content of the thing they are supposed to have in them. They are regulated in the sense that they have to be 'safe'. You can never know if you are getting any vitamin D in any vitamin D supplement. I mean, go on taking them, I don't care. You could get the ingredient, or you could just get expensive pee.

So to break this down, you are suggesting that the doctors recommending supplements are wrong, and that people should ignore the advice of their doctors?

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

How do you know they are all the same? This is a serious question. No supplement is regulated for content. Everyone knows this; it is not some secret conspiracy.

I didn't suggest the tests were a conspiracy.

NP. They are not regulated like drugs but a number of supplement companies do submit to third-party testing, and label their products as such. I stick to the brands that do this. Yes, it is theoretically possible they are giving me canola oil instead of of omega 3 but it is the same as for any trusted brand that they're not going to do that because it would catch up with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think we found the poster who takes piles of self identified pub med citations to their GP appts. Not surprising they are Sherlocking the quality of vitamin D supplements that doctors recommend people take given how much time people spend in doors in modern life.

I'm the PP of the previous two posts and I genuinely can't tell if you are referring to me or the "supplements are snakeoil" poster I am responding to.

Supplements are not regulated for the amount of content of the thing they are supposed to have in them. They are regulated in the sense that they have to be 'safe'. You can never know if you are getting any vitamin D in any vitamin D supplement. I mean, go on taking them, I don't care. You could get the ingredient, or you could just get expensive pee.

Two things. 1) it’s called testing. It’s common. You test your levels. That’s how you find out if what you are taking is effective. And you might also go outside, and not find pedantic things to focus on.

2) none of this is very expensive moron

Vitamin D supplementation is the most common recommendation by GPs. Research supports blood serum levels in certain bands being beneficial for all sorts of reasons.

The dumb ass hills people decide to defend are hilarious.

+1

I get my own blood work done all the time so if my supplements were not actually showing up as increased blood levels, I would drop them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Has anyone taking a vitamin D supplement becuase their doc told them they tested low for vit D ever actual tested no longer deficient?

Given that supplements have no regulation, I often wonder at doctors recommending them. Sure, it might make sense if the supplement actually contains what it claims to contain, but a doctor wouldn't know. It just seems like bad practice on the part of doctors.

The issue you identify is not with a doctor's medical advice, but with lack of regulation of a product.

But a doctor recommending an unregulated product with potentially no chance of efficacy is also an issue.

If a doctor recommends a supplement with studies backing up the efficacy of that supplement, particularly with no known major side effects, there is nothing wrong with encouraging a person to take that thing. The doctor is not responsible for ensuring that the patient actually obtains and ingests that supplement.

A doctor can tell you to increase your fiver intake without knowing for sure you will actually ingest more fiber.
A doctor can tell you to walk more without knowing for sure if you will do that or if you will do so in a safe environment.

Similarly a doctor can tell you to ingest more magnesium and that supplements are a good way to do that without knowing for sure that you will actually take a quality supplement.

you are missing that the doctor doesn't know if ANY supplement actually contains the ingredient. It's akin to recomending snake-oil.

It would be different if the doctor recommended a product that they KNOW has the relevant ingredient, but I don't know if a doctor could know that about any product.

Vitamin D supplements are all the same. What sort of tin foil hat do you wear? I check my levels an additional time after my annual physical since my levels tend to be low without additional sun exposure and supplementation. Maybe the tests are also a conspiracy.

How do you know they are all the same? This is a serious question. No supplement is regulated for content. Everyone knows this; it is not some secret conspiracy.

I didn't suggest the tests were a conspiracy.

NP. They are not regulated like drugs but a number of supplement companies do submit to third-party testing, and label their products as such. I stick to the brands that do this. Yes, it is theoretically possible they are giving me canola oil instead of of omega 3 but it is the same as for any trusted brand that they're not going to do that because it would catch up with them.

Yes, it most certainly would. The industry is incredibly low margin for the supplements doctors actually recommend, which is the narrower thing we are addressing. These companies monitor themselves through false labeling litigation.

Meanwhile vitamin Sherlock has it all figured out. The doctors won’t tell her to spend $30 a year on vitamin D and expensive urine. Suckers