Herndon high - what’s going on?

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Anonymous wrote:In dual enrollment classes, kids have higher grades for college than they do for high school — for the same dang class. If anything, HHS is harder than others in it’s district.

That is ridiculous. If I was a parent there, I wouldn’t stop screaming until things changed.

That is one of the reasons the PTA President and others quit recently. They sent a letter to the principal and FCPS. They were told they were too entitled. Uhhhh. The colleges are giving a higher grade than the bastardized SBG system she implemented yielded. I wish I was making this up. The principal is a one woman wrecking crew.

Oh I thought this was just a Madison issue . . SBG is universally a disaster

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Herndon parent here again. I met with principal in Oct Nov Jan and March. We are trying to be heard. A letter was sent and signed by something like 80 parents of juniors and it was totally ignored by Reid, Tyson and others. Our PTA quit because Noto berated the president so bad for standing up for the students. The teachers don’t know their left hand from their right anymore because everything has been flipped so upside down. Please I would love for some advice on what else parents can do.

I am sorry to hear this! Have you gone to your school board member and the three at large? Did Reid meet with parents at least?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long overdue to redraw HHS boundary. Need to take in more Langley kids.

+10000

I know a family that lives in the shadow of Herndon High School and are zoned for Langley, 12 miles away. Ridiculous what these snobs get away with.

Everyone already knows that the school board is “holier than thou.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long overdue to redraw HHS boundary. Need to take in more Langley kids.

+10000

I know a family that lives in the shadow of Herndon High School and are zoned for Langley, 12 miles away. Ridiculous what these snobs get away with.

Everyone already knows that the school board is “holier than thou.”

Rules for thee but not for me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s see.: Principal was kicked out of a Loudoun school because the parents hated her. Herndon hired her.

Current Assistant Principal was the one who got arrested for grand larceny after shoplifting at Target. Herndon hired her.

Standard based instruction this year brought down test scores in all but the failing kids. Principal lied and said FCPS made her do it. Parents are pissed off

The principal from Loudoun you’re referring to is the current principal of Herndon MS, not HS. She is terrible

Agree. MS principal seems like a shameless careerist and is really bad. This whole pyramid is going down the drain.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Long overdue to redraw HHS boundary. Need to take in more Langley kids.

+10000

I know a family that lives in the shadow of Herndon High School and are zoned for Langley, 12 miles away. Ridiculous what these snobs get away with.

12 miles which is an hour commute down Georgetown Pike or Rt -7. Ridiculous.

Have you set up a tent at Gatehouse to protest the oppressive journey these sad children have to make due to the poor decisions of the board?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How is it fair to Herndon students who actually did learn the material by attending classes and completing assigned work so that they passed the first test and will actually retain the skills. Unlike students who passed version D of the same test, after seeing it three times in a row. It is not fair. Herndon teacher.

The idea is that grading, in general, creates disparity or in more relevant terms inequities. Ultimately, I think proponents of SBG systems and systems like it would prefer no grades at all; it should be about whether the student learned the material. Performance-based evaluation, e.g., who learned what faster or better, is unnecessary.

Of course, this leads to questions about what happens after high school, specifically with college admissions and even the workforce. If everyone is equal, then the sky is limit... lol.

"A new study has found that patients of newly trained doctors tend to have higher survival rates if the doctor scored highly on board certification exams. Tests, it turns out, might not be racist, but actually quite good predictors of competence." - The Free Press, https://hms.harvard.edu/news/resident-physicians-exam-scores-tied-patient-survival?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email (Harvard Medical School)

I mean tests are ok, but we should look at decolonizing science and turn to other ways of knowing.

Exactly. You get the gist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Madison has a huge number of active and engaged parents. Herndon is nowhere close to having a base like that. Most of the parents work multiple jobs and don’t speak English well.
This is why the principal had no problem steamrolling over the parents.

It is time to change the boundaries between Langley and Herndon.

Weren’t people saying on this thread that sbg has also been a nightmare at Madison? Seems like, again, it’s not a vocal parent issue.

The school board and gatehouse are more interested in allowing principals to make a name for themselves by piloting their programs for fake equity rather than listening to the kids actually hurt by SBG. It is happening at Madison and Herndon right now but coming to the rest of the county unless they can be stopped.

They are just determined to make FCPS as strong as New York and Baltimore City public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Herndon parent here again. I met with principal in Oct Nov Jan and March. We are trying to be heard. A letter was sent and signed by something like 80 parents of juniors and it was totally ignored by Reid, Tyson and others. Our PTA quit because Noto berated the president so bad for standing up for the students. The teachers don’t know their left hand from their right anymore because everything has been flipped so upside down. Please I would love for some advice on what else parents can do.

Go to the local newspapers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How is it fair to Herndon students who actually did learn the material by attending classes and completing assigned work so that they passed the first test and will actually retain the skills. Unlike students who passed version D of the same test, after seeing it three times in a row. It is not fair. Herndon teacher.

The idea is that grading, in general, creates disparity or in more relevant terms inequities. Ultimately, I think proponents of SBG systems and systems like it would prefer no grades at all; it should be about whether the student learned the material. Performance-based evaluation, e.g., who learned what faster or better, is unnecessary.

Of course, this leads to questions about what happens after high school, specifically with college admissions and even the workforce. If everyone is equal, then the sky is limit... lol.

"A new study has found that patients of newly trained doctors tend to have higher survival rates if the doctor scored highly on board certification exams. Tests, it turns out, might not be racist, but actually quite good predictors of competence." - The Free Press, https://hms.harvard.edu/news/resident-physicians-exam-scores-tied-patient-survival?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email (Harvard Medical School)

I mean tests are ok, but we should look at decolonizing science and turn to other ways of knowing.

Exactly. You get the gist.

What does “decolonizing science” mean?!!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Madison has a huge number of active and engaged parents. Herndon is nowhere close to having a base like that. Most of the parents work multiple jobs and don’t speak English well.
This is why the principal had no problem steamrolling over the parents.

It is time to change the boundaries between Langley and Herndon.

Weren’t people saying on this thread that sbg has also been a nightmare at Madison? Seems like, again, it’s not a vocal parent issue.

The school board and gatehouse are more interested in allowing principals to make a name for themselves by piloting their programs for fake equity rather than listening to the kids actually hurt by SBG. It is happening at Madison and Herndon right now but coming to the rest of the county unless they can be stopped.

But is it? I thought grading will be standardized across all schools next year and SBG will go away? Also it seems to me that Herndon parents have been more effective than Madison. I’m saying that as a Madison parent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon parent here again. I met with principal in Oct Nov Jan and March. We are trying to be heard. A letter was sent and signed by something like 80 parents of juniors and it was totally ignored by Reid, Tyson and others. Our PTA quit because Noto berated the president so bad for standing up for the students. The teachers don’t know their left hand from their right anymore because everything has been flipped so upside down. Please I would love for some advice on what else parents can do.

Go to the local newspapers.

The local papers are not widely read and Washington Post wouldn’t touch it. Try Fox News. They like FCPS and LCPS stories.

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Ii don’t think the right answer is to give every kid an A in their classes. That’s not merit.

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Anonymous wrote:Is South Lakes still open to transfer? IB transfer would be the easiest way to get out.

No way, man! Don't crowd up South Lakes. It's working on a decent reputation now and doesn't need to become overcrowded.

You should welcome this. Kids that transfer come from very involved helicopter-ish parents who will benefit the school's test scores. Overcrowded schools are actually desirable in FCPS.

PP. Okay, you've got a point. I would go for the parts of Reston north of the Toll Road that go to Herndon attend SLHS, since they are part of Reston. I think it actually surprises people when they buy in Reston 20194 and end up going to Herndon HS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Herndon parent here again. I met with principal in Oct Nov Jan and March. We are trying to be heard. A letter was sent and signed by something like 80 parents of juniors and it was totally ignored by Reid, Tyson and others. Our PTA quit because Noto berated the president so bad for standing up for the students. The teachers don’t know their left hand from their right anymore because everything has been flipped so upside down. Please I would love for some advice on what else parents can do.

Go to the local newspapers.

Sadly, it probably does have to be a republican talking point to get any traction. Not that anyone who opposes it is political or right leaning but the issue with an all democratic school board is that in order to get anything unrelated to their main focus in education highlighted to put pressure on the school board means you have to work with people that oppose the current school board. Ideally some articles whichever paper might steer the board to action before it became a political item.