Supreme Court Texas Immigration Ruling

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Anonymous wrote:If Texas wants to assume responsibility for the border in Texas why hasn’t Biden pulled 90% of the feds(CBP, etc) from the state? The man power and resources could be used in other states.

Also Biden needs to close all legal entry points on the Texas border. Just shut it down and route everything through a normal state. It’s 280 billion in trade that could go to another state. Biden needs to wake up.

San Diego is completely overwhelmed right now. That other poster is right about asylum policies needing to change.

Asylum policies do not need to change. Biden needs to secure the border as is his duty. His RESPONSIBILITY as president is to enforce the laws, including securing our borders.

[Anonymous]

The same angry "blame Biden" posters post on EVERY immigration thread on DCUM.
It's all Trump has that voters will cling to.
Despite the truth that the GOP went along with Trump's dictate that they kill the bipartisan immigration bill because Trump thinks he can win by using immigration as a weapon against Biden who, with the immigration bill, was trying to solve the problem.
Unlike Biden, Trump does NOT want to solve the immigration problem. He wants to win the election at any and all cost to the American people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat and an immigrant, SC decision is a good decision. We have to decide if we have a border or not, I have not seen anything like this ever in my life where people want to pretend their country has no border.

WTH is wrong with people here???

Immigration is a federal issue, not a state issue.

Also, in Texas, there is a not insignificant number of people who were born on this side of the border at home and do not have a passport or a birth certificate from a hospital. They are citizens - but could Texas "deport" them? It's a terrible idea.

Why would they not get a birth certificate or some other document?
I am always suspicious of such people, just like the people who can’t even get their DL or ID for voting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat and an immigrant, SC decision is a good decision. We have to decide if we have a border or not, I have not seen anything like this ever in my life where people want to pretend their country has no border.

WTH is wrong with people here???

Immigration is a federal issue, not a state issue.

Also, in Texas, there is a not insignificant number of people who were born on this side of the border at home and do not have a passport or a birth certificate from a hospital. They are citizens - but could Texas "deport" them? It's a terrible idea.

Why would they not get a birth certificate or some other document?
I am always suspicious of such people, just like the people who can’t even get their DL or ID for voting.

Try living in an area where the government makes it hard. Yes, they exist, and that you don't get it shows your privilege.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?

DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.

Well maybe they should show them their REAL ID drivers license? No problemo in this case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mexico says they won't accept deportations by Texas. So now what?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/19/us/mexico-texas-border-immigration.html

No problemo, CA can take them!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Supremes are allowing Texas to arrest and deport migrants, for now.

Worst decision since abortion ruling.

Conveniently right before wave of Haitians start arriving in Florida.

I am sure Desantis is paying attention.

troll much?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?

https://www.ktep.org/2023-12-22/family-held-at-gunpoint-by-dps-in-mistaken-operation-lone-star-stop-el-pasoans-say?_amp=true

“ An El Paso family returning from a visit to Ciudad Juarez says they were forced off the road by Texas Department of Public Safety agents who rushed out of their unmarked vehicles and pointed semiautomatic rifles at them.

“This was excessive, way too much force. It would have been just as easy to turn on your lights, pull us over and do an investigation” said Gerardo Ayala, 37, who was in his Chevy Cruze on Oct. 12 with his wife, 13-year-old daughter and mother-in-law.

Ayala said they were released after a Texas Department of Public Safety supervisor told them their car was similar to one being tracked in an investigation. DPS spokesperson Elizabeth Carter said only, “We’re looking into the allegation.”

The Ayalas are U.S. citizens, and the October incident underscores concerns by civil rights groups and immigrant advocates that Texas’ border enforcement efforts include ethnic ”

This isn’t scary in the least bit. Just make sure you have your papers with you . /s

If your original country does something very wrong, unfortunately you suffer also - part of the reputation tarnishment. I say this as a former citizen of a country that’s being mentioned a lot and not in a good light. No one wants to hear me complain!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?

DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.

Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.

So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.

If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...

And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?

DP. I have my real id DL on me at all times.
Can’t get one if you are illegal. They better get to it before it’s too late!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?

DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.

Well maybe they should show them their REAL ID drivers license? No problemo in this case.

Say there is a 15 year old who looks older, American born, who goes to get a slurpee and the texas authorities round him up and put him on a plane to Guatamala...then what?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?

DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.

Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.

So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.

If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...

And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?

Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.

The law hasn’t gone into effect so obviously there are no examples. But the feds have deported citizens accidentally. It’s a much bigger risk in a system with no due process like Texas has designed. A drivers license doesn’t prove citizenship, many people don’t have them, and even people who do don’t carry them all the time.

In Texas you do need either citizenship or proof of status (including refugee/asylum status) to get a license so that confusion and deportation case you speak of cannot happen as long as you carry a license.

Great! Then you can deport anyone and everyone that is not carrying a license! What could go wrong?

About 10% of the adult US population doesn’t have a license. They must all be illegals!

Then they either have a passport/naturalization/birth cert or the U.S. won’t miss them much lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish they let this go into effect. It’s entirely performative. Texas doesn’t have the resources to prosecute and imprison millions of immigrants. And mexico won’t accept deportations from Texas. So Texas would quickly move into the same “catch and release” system that they’ve been belly aching about.

No.
Let a few round ups happen. Then all the illegals move to the neighboring states. Problem solved for TX!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Democrat and an immigrant, SC decision is a good decision. We have to decide if we have a border or not, I have not seen anything like this ever in my life where people want to pretend their country has no border.

WTH is wrong with people here???

Why do immigrants think their voice matters more than anyone else and include that as some qualification to speak on immigration policy? My family is a family of immigrants too. But so what?

Because we went through the LEGAL process ourselves you fool. You however are in the ivory tower.
-DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We do have a border. The problem is that our system cannot process the asylum claims quickly enough. Hence another reason legislation is needed, to authorize and fund more adjudicators to hear cases expeditiously so people can be legally deported out of the country more quickly.

The GOP is opposed to this.

No. We need to stop seeing “asylum seekers” show up and clog up the courts. The law needs to change and “remain wherever just not here” enforced

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The same angry "blame Biden" posters post on EVERY immigration thread on DCUM.
It's all Trump has that voters will cling to.
Despite the truth that the GOP went along with Trump's dictate that they kill the bipartisan immigration bill because Trump thinks he can win by using immigration as a weapon against Biden who, with the immigration bill, was trying to solve the problem.
Unlike Biden, Trump does NOT want to solve the immigration problem. He wants to win the election at any and all cost to the American people.

Does that immigration bill call for more resources to process incoming “asylum seekers”? If it does it just encourages them.
Does the bill also call for any sort of path to legal status for those illegally here?
If yes, then it’s a bad bill that won’t solve anything.