Supreme Court Texas Immigration Ruling

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.


So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.


If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...


And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?


Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.


The law hasn’t gone into effect so obviously there are no examples. But the feds have deported citizens accidentally. It’s a much bigger risk in a system with no due process like Texas has designed. A drivers license doesn’t prove citizenship, many people don’t have them, and even people who do don’t carry them all the time.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.


So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.


If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...


And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?


Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.


Even with the process afforded by the federal government, the government has deported citizens before. I'm not sure why you think this is impossible.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.


So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.


If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...


And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?


Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.


The law hasn’t gone into effect so obviously there are no examples. But the feds have deported citizens accidentally. It’s a much bigger risk in a system with no due process like Texas has designed. A drivers license doesn’t prove citizenship, many people don’t have them, and even people who do don’t carry them all the time.


In Texas you do need either citizenship or proof of status (including refugee/asylum status) to get a license so that confusion and deportation case you speak of cannot happen as long as you carry a license.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.


So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.


If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...


And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?


Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.


Even with the process afforded by the federal government, the government has deported citizens before. I'm not sure why you think this is impossible.


Obviously the Texas police will believe the Hispanic guy speaking broken English that actually he was naturalized 10 years ago and let him go home to get his naturalization papers to prove it. /sarc
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.


So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.


If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...


And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?


Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.


The law hasn’t gone into effect so obviously there are no examples. But the feds have deported citizens accidentally. It’s a much bigger risk in a system with no due process like Texas has designed. A drivers license doesn’t prove citizenship, many people don’t have them, and even people who do don’t carry them all the time.


In Texas you do need either citizenship or proof of status (including refugee/asylum status) to get a license so that confusion and deportation case you speak of cannot happen as long as you carry a license.


Great! Then you can deport anyone and everyone that is not carrying a license! What could go wrong?
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Texas does not have the resources to do massive sweeps that you dream about. But according to the law they passed, if someone crosses they can be immediately returned to Mexico. There is no due process needed for jumping the border. Deporting people that are here illegally is righting a wrong.

What has happened is that Texas is filling a void that Biden created. Texas has been begging the Biden administration to get a handle on the invasion of illegal immigrants and has been ignored.


So what happens when they pick up someone they think came here illegally but is actually legal? And they then deport him? If there’s no due process where these issues are found, there will be many mistakes like this.


If they became legal then they have a legal document to prove it...


And how do they present that if there’s no due process? I don’t walk around with my birth certificate or passport on me. Do you?


Do you have a case in which that actually happened? Nobody is going to deport someone right there on the spot without asking for documentation. Where is this even? At the border? At the supermarket? At work? Legal citizens usually have a driver's license. If not and if it is a concern though, you can have it in your email/phone always.


The law hasn’t gone into effect so obviously there are no examples. But the feds have deported citizens accidentally. It’s a much bigger risk in a system with no due process like Texas has designed. A drivers license doesn’t prove citizenship, many people don’t have them, and even people who do don’t carry them all the time.


In Texas you do need either citizenship or proof of status (including refugee/asylum status) to get a license so that confusion and deportation case you speak of cannot happen as long as you carry a license.


Great! Then you can deport anyone and everyone that is not carrying a license! What could go wrong?


About 10% of the adult US population doesn’t have a license. They must all be illegals!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Why do you think it is such a bad decision, OP?


DP...it allows the "texas authorities" to sweep up anyone who could be a migrant. ie anyone who looks Latino. Regardless of being a born American, a legal immigrant or someone who crossed illegally. IOW, no due process and it is the beginning of "brownshirts" basically.


Good grief.
Where in the hell did you get these talking points?
Your speculation is ridiculous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:its blocked again, this is really bad optics for liberals and democrats


Yes, it is indeed.
This is what Biden, et al, want. Unabated illegal immigration.
Actions like this simply prove it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:its blocked again, this is really bad optics for liberals and democrats


Yes, it is indeed.
This is what Biden, et al, want. Unabated illegal immigration.
Actions like this simply prove it.


The fifth circuit blocked it.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The Supremes are allowing Texas to arrest and deport migrants, for now.

Worst decision since abortion ruling.

Conveniently right before wave of Haitians start arriving in Florida.

I am sure Desantis is paying attention.

What do you want them to do instead? The border situation is a disaster. And I say this as a liberal Democrat.


+1
Anonymous
I wish they let this go into effect. It’s entirely performative. Texas doesn’t have the resources to prosecute and imprison millions of immigrants. And mexico won’t accept deportations from Texas. So Texas would quickly move into the same “catch and release” system that they’ve been belly aching about.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they let this go into effect. It’s entirely performative. Texas doesn’t have the resources to prosecute and imprison millions of immigrants. And mexico won’t accept deportations from Texas. So Texas would quickly move into the same “catch and release” system that they’ve been belly aching about.


I think the bolded bit is key here. Why are we not demanding better from Mexico? The influx is partly their fault.
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Anonymous wrote:I wish they let this go into effect. It’s entirely performative. Texas doesn’t have the resources to prosecute and imprison millions of immigrants. And mexico won’t accept deportations from Texas. So Texas would quickly move into the same “catch and release” system that they’ve been belly aching about.


I think the bolded bit is key here. Why are we not demanding better from Mexico? The influx is partly their fault.


Mexico is smart enough to only want to deal with federal deportations, not state ones.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:its blocked again, this is really bad optics for liberals and democrats


Yes, it is indeed.
This is what Biden, et al, want. Unabated illegal immigration.
Actions like this simply prove it.


The fifth circuit blocked it.


Ummm.....
Who sued so that Texas could not take this action?????
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:its blocked again, this is really bad optics for liberals and democrats


Yes, it is indeed.
This is what Biden, et al, want. Unabated illegal immigration.
Actions like this simply prove it.


The fifth circuit blocked it.


Ummm.....
Who sued so that Texas could not take this action?????


Ummm... Do you know anything about the Fifth Circuit? Anything at all?
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