Boys are not all right

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Anonymous wrote:Boys are being held back by feminization and medication (Ritalin for being “antsy”). Let them be boys, have them spend time with fathers and other boys, and they’ll be just fine. They develop later academically, so don’t let them drop out, and let them read / do what they’re interested in. They’ll catch up.

No doctor is prescribing ritalin because a boy is 'antsy' ffs. Do some research into the brain chemistry of ADHD: there are differences in the structure, chemistry, and neural networks of the ADHD brain and abnormally low levels of the neurotransmitters transmitting between the prefrontal cortical area and the basal ganglia (dopamine and noradrenaline). That is what the medication helps.

When 25%+ of elementary school boys are taking ADHD stimulant meds, then yes, absolutely some/many of them are being prescribed merely because they are antsy.

And part of this is bc the school day has completely changed in a generation. When I was in ES in the 80s, we had 2 recesses a day, each 30 min or so. IN middle school and high school, we had 8 periods a day and lockers, with at least 5 minutes between classes. All of these breaks helped many kids focus on the classroom time bc they knew another break was coming. Now, block scheduling and short recesses mean that lots of kids have trouble maintaining focus and hence the ADHD diagnoses and meds.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Boys are being held back by feminization and medication (Ritalin for being “antsy”). Let them be boys, have them spend time with fathers and other boys, and they’ll be just fine. They develop later academically, so don’t let them drop out, and let them read / do what they’re interested in. They’ll catch up.

No doctor is prescribing ritalin because a boy is 'antsy' ffs. Do some research into the brain chemistry of ADHD: there are differences in the structure, chemistry, and neural networks of the ADHD brain and abnormally low levels of the neurotransmitters transmitting between the prefrontal cortical area and the basal ganglia (dopamine and noradrenaline). That is what the medication helps.

When 25%+ of elementary school boys are taking ADHD stimulant meds, then yes, absolutely some/many of them are being prescribed merely because they are antsy.

And part of this is bc the school day has completely changed in a generation. When I was in ES in the 80s, we had 2 recesses a day, each 30 min or so. IN middle school and high school, we had 8 periods a day and lockers, with at least 5 minutes between classes. All of these breaks helped many kids focus on the classroom time bc they knew another break was coming. Now, block scheduling and short recesses mean that lots of kids have trouble maintaining focus and hence the ADHD diagnoses and meds.

Yup. Many school districts have done away with phys Ed too! Our kids are fat and boys are massively overprescribed drugs simply for being boys. You cannot expect a young boy to sit in a stupid chair for 6+ hours per day listening to some boring teacher telling them memorize times tables or how to do sentence diagrams. They need to be active. Boys learn much more with their hands, by building things, and by being active. If you're not going to cater to that kind of learning style in the classroom, then at least have physical education and recess.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys are being held back by feminization and medication (Ritalin for being “antsy”). Let them be boys, have them spend time with fathers and other boys, and they’ll be just fine. They develop later academically, so don’t let them drop out, and let them read / do what they’re interested in. They’ll catch up.

No doctor is prescribing ritalin because a boy is 'antsy' ffs. Do some research into the brain chemistry of ADHD: there are differences in the structure, chemistry, and neural networks of the ADHD brain and abnormally low levels of the neurotransmitters transmitting between the prefrontal cortical area and the basal ganglia (dopamine and noradrenaline). That is what the medication helps.

When 25%+ of elementary school boys are taking ADHD stimulant meds, then yes, absolutely some/many of them are being prescribed merely because they are antsy.

And part of this is bc the school day has completely changed in a generation. When I was in ES in the 80s, we had 2 recesses a day, each 30 min or so. IN middle school and high school, we had 8 periods a day and lockers, with at least 5 minutes between classes. All of these breaks helped many kids focus on the classroom time bc they knew another break was coming. Now, block scheduling and short recesses mean that lots of kids have trouble maintaining focus and hence the ADHD diagnoses and meds.

Yup. Many school districts have done away with phys Ed too! Our kids are fat and boys are massively overprescribed drugs simply for being boys. You cannot expect a young boy to sit in a stupid chair for 6+ hours per day listening to some boring teacher telling them memorize times tables or how to do sentence diagrams. They need to be active. Boys learn much more with their hands, by building things, and by being active. If you're not going to cater to that kind of learning style in the classroom, then at least have physical education and recess.

Except we did that for centuries and boys were fine. We do far less of that now and they aren't.

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So what are the boy moms doing about this? Surely you are banding together and lobbying lawmakers to change the standards around education so that it better suits your children's needs???

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I haven’t read all of these replies but I have two sons and I’m a teacher. Boys are developmentally about 12-18 months behind girls in my observation, and school is requiring much more focus and academic skill in the younger years than it used to. But just like they catch up in height, boys catch up intellectually.

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

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My grandfather was expelled from school for misbehavior in first grade. He later became a respected academic. Can't imagine that happening today

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

There's still a huge amount of sex-based discrimination. I just read The Exceptions and it detailed how women in science are held to a higher standard and provided fewer resources throughout their careers, making a tough job even tougher.

As a women in male dominated industries, I've personally experienced it. I'm absolutely a risk taker and strategic thinker, but am continually undercut by old white men who only want to know what the guys in the room think. I literally went into a multi hundred million dollar negotiation where I brought a 60 year old white male colleague who did nothing the whole time except say "I agree with her" and "What she said" because that's what it took to be heard. It's infuriating.

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

You are so sheltered. There is still a huge amount of sex discrimination in the workplace, especially in male dominated industries.

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

You are so sheltered. There is still a huge amount of sex discrimination in the workplace, especially in male dominated industries.

Gotta love it when potential diversity hires based on gender call other people 'sheltered'.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

Many studies have shown that venture capitalists are far, far more likely to fund male led businesses than female led. It's a known issue in the industry and borne out by data.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

Your example is that women should start dating apps? No bias there. Goodness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

Should have realized this thread was just going to be misogyny. Women stay home because they like it! Women don't have leadership positions because they don't take risk! None of it is structural!

I presented at a meeting of health care investors a few months ago. I work in health care and about 75 percent of everyone working in health care is a woman. You know who all the senior VPs and CEOs are? Men. How do they get there--they aren't working their way up? And in the investor meeting, which had about a hundred people, there were maybe 3 or 4 women. They are most definitely NOT including women at the table--everyone there was 35-55 years old, white, male, and super rich. It was about as "old boys club" as it gets.

You think men routinely work full time to support their wives through grad school? You think men routinely support their wives and take care of the family/house when the wives need to work 80-90 hour weeks to get a new company off the ground? You think men routinely support their wives when they want to mortgage the house and cash out everything to invest in a start-up?

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Anonymous wrote:Does excelling academically from a young age actually help girls? No matter how well girls do in school, they run into the same roadblocks in their careers, and the correlation between slightly higher grades and test scores, and professional success, just isn't there.

I mean, if we want to talk about whether boys are less happy than they used to be, or struggling more with executive function, I think that's an interesting conversation. But the fact that boys, on average, lag behind girls in school? I don't think it really impacts them much, and I think the pressure on girls to excel at school can be negative.

I wouldn't say the kids are all right, but I don't lose sleep over the fact that boys are getting slightly lower grades and test scores than girls in K-12.

Because excelling academically often means just reciting the same old BS the teacher tells you or memorizing a bunch of facts. Big whoop.

Women often miss the bigger picture. They always, allllways want higher powered jobs and leadership positions, but they always want someone else to do all of the hard grunt work of building a business from the ground up. Sorry, that's not the way the world works. You can be a straight A student all you want, but the risk takers in the world are going to be far more rewarded with innovation and building companies. It's really, really hard to be CEO or president of a company of all you do your whole life is go to school, get good grades, and try to climb the corporate ladder. If you want to be in charge and hold power, you need to be the person who actually builds the company from scratch. The problem is that women are often way more risk adverse than men. Numerous studies have shown that to be true in the investment world. It works well when it comes to investing in the stock market, but far more women than men want to take the risk of putting their life savings and homes on the line to start a company. And you wonder why later on there are less women in charge? Take more risk and stop whining. It's a dog eat dog world. There's very little reward for being a mindless Yes man or woman who obeys all of the rules doed what they're told in life. At most that might get you to middle management or director level roles, that's about it.

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BS. (1) Women are not given the same opportunities as men, (2) men are given the opportunity to fail up with women actually doing the real work behind them and playing clean up and (3) Women bust their ass and get very little reward and/or recognition for their efforts.

Oh please. Girls are given MORE opportunities to succeed than boys these days. There are so, sooooooo many scholarships, programs, camps etc. exclusively for girls only in STEM, etc. So many grants and other funding opportunities exclusively for women to start businesses.

At this point, it is more about excuses than anything. Women are risk adverse. They want cushy jobs handed to them, but only after someone else does all of the hardwork creating the companies for them. Sorry, that's not gonna happen. Women have money these days. Start building your own and quit complaining for special treatment. Look at the founders of apps like Bumble. They figured it out. Other women can do the same. If you want more power and money then start taking more risk. Otherwise, shut up already. No one is going to reward you for being a good worker bee because you provide little innovative value to the economy. You don't create jobs. Get with the program.

Your example is that women should start dating apps? No bias there. Goodness.

Yup, women are welcome as long as they "stay in their lane." Dating apps, beauty products, childcare, teaching, MLMs, fitness instructors, nursing, etc, are all fine. But don't dare to try to advance in STEM or business, as your little brains clearly can't handle the risk calculus. Leave that to the men.