Everyone doesn’t get straight A’s in mcps

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would also add that in High School there are some really hard classes and teachers who enforce a high level of rigor. Smart kids can work really hard and still end up with 89.3

Did I write this? This is exactly where my precalc kid ended up first qtr. 89.3!!! So frustrating

That is very frustrating. But less frustrating than the B/C Calc kids who got a C in the first quarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re idiots who didn’t put any effort in. If you are neurotypical and have a pulse you get an A.

Fixed it for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re idiots who didn’t put any effort in. If you have a pulse you get an A.

Maybe you hadn't heard but the latest equity policy from the central office is the 90% rule where kids get 90% as the new minimum grade for turning in their assignments.

Lmao I'm surprised some of you manage to find your way out of your beds in the morning!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re idiots who didn’t put any effort in. If you have a pulse you get an A.

It is really you who is an idiot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader at Pyle gets all As but is an exceptional student. Her friends get mostly As and Bs but definitely not everyone is getting all As. Agree that advanced math and language you need to work hard for an A. Science not so much. Social studies and English a mixed bag.

Unless you're teaching all her classes, you don't know this, it is just mamma pride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the DCUM narrative that straight As are the norm, nobody gets a bad grade even if they don’t show up or turn in work, and students who don’t get As are lazy.

I have had 3 kids in MCPS. They have definitely gotten Bs when they have worked hard. And one of them even got a D in a math class despite good attendance, turning in all assignments, getting help from the teacher and having a tutor because they have a disability. This same child got a C in honors bio because the class moved quickly and the teacher taught deeply. It turned out they had peers who also got their first C in that class.

OP here.

+1. And I wasn’t even saying this about MS and HS, I was saying this about ES. The narrative is wrong and it promotes anxiety when we see our kids getting less than an A because everyone else gets an A and there must be something wrong with our child.
It’s despicable that kids are expected to be just perfect starting in ES in every way possible and if they are not there is something wrong with them.

PP back. I couldn’t agree more! There is no place for this pressure in ES.

Elementary grading is really arbitrary. A child could work hard, follow directions and the art teacher could still give her an A because she's not artistic. There's usually no rubric. We also had elementary teachers saying they were grading according to the child's ability. So one child who was reading Harry Potter in K might get a B for reading because they moved the kid up a few levels for comprehension questions but the child was not able to write responses that would be similar to a child in 4th grade. Another teacher at the same school might just give a child working a few grades above grade level an A regardless of the work they turned in or did not turn in or they might give any kid who follows directions and completes work an A. It's really random!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the DCUM narrative that straight As are the norm, nobody gets a bad grade even if they don’t show up or turn in work, and students who don’t get As are lazy.

I have had 3 kids in MCPS. They have definitely gotten Bs when they have worked hard. And one of them even got a D in a math class despite good attendance, turning in all assignments, getting help from the teacher and having a tutor because they have a disability. This same child got a C in honors bio because the class moved quickly and the teacher taught deeply. It turned out they had peers who also got their first C in that class.

OP here.

+1. And I wasn’t even saying this about MS and HS, I was saying this about ES. The narrative is wrong and it promotes anxiety when we see our kids getting less than an A because everyone else gets an A and there must be something wrong with our child.
It’s despicable that kids are expected to be just perfect starting in ES in every way possible and if they are not there is something wrong with them.

PP back. I couldn’t agree more! There is no place for this pressure in ES.

Elementary grading is really arbitrary. A child could work hard, follow directions and the art teacher could still give her an A because she's not artistic. There's usually no rubric. We also had elementary teachers saying they were grading according to the child's ability. So one child who was reading Harry Potter in K might get a B for reading because they moved the kid up a few levels for comprehension questions but the child was not able to write responses that would be similar to a child in 4th grade. Another teacher at the same school might just give a child working a few grades above grade level an A regardless of the work they turned in or did not turn in or they might give any kid who follows directions and completes work an A. It's really random!

I had a 2nd grader who at least I think is great at art but somehow managed to get C's in Art but A's in everything else. I imagine the teacher is kind of nuts since the kid actually likes art and does all the assignments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader at Pyle gets all As but is an exceptional student. Her friends get mostly As and Bs but definitely not everyone is getting all As. Agree that advanced math and language you need to work hard for an A. Science not so much. Social studies and English a mixed bag.

Although my kids were at the TPMS MS magnet it was about the same.

[Anonymous]

What would be helpful is if schools disclosed grade distributions. I.e 68% of kids enrolled in Honors Geometry got an A. Etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader at Pyle gets all As but is an exceptional student. Her friends get mostly As and Bs but definitely not everyone is getting all As. Agree that advanced math and language you need to work hard for an A. Science not so much. Social studies and English a mixed bag.

Oh sure, it is your child who is exceptional. The other kids are just OK

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so sick of the DCUM narrative that straight As are the norm, nobody gets a bad grade even if they don’t show up or turn in work, and students who don’t get As are lazy.

I have had 3 kids in MCPS. They have definitely gotten Bs when they have worked hard. And one of them even got a D in a math class despite good attendance, turning in all assignments, getting help from the teacher and having a tutor because they have a disability. This same child got a C in honors bio because the class moved quickly and the teacher taught deeply. It turned out they had peers who also got their first C in that class.

OP here.

+1. And I wasn’t even saying this about MS and HS, I was saying this about ES. The narrative is wrong and it promotes anxiety when we see our kids getting less than an A because everyone else gets an A and there must be something wrong with our child.
It’s despicable that kids are expected to be just perfect starting in ES in every way possible and if they are not there is something wrong with them.

PP back. I couldn’t agree more! There is no place for this pressure in ES.

Elementary grading is really arbitrary. A child could work hard, follow directions and the art teacher could still give her an A because she's not artistic. There's usually no rubric. We also had elementary teachers saying they were grading according to the child's ability. So one child who was reading Harry Potter in K might get a B for reading because they moved the kid up a few levels for comprehension questions but the child was not able to write responses that would be similar to a child in 4th grade. Another teacher at the same school might just give a child working a few grades above grade level an A regardless of the work they turned in or did not turn in or they might give any kid who follows directions and completes work an A. It's really random!

I had a 2nd grader who at least I think is great at art but somehow managed to get C's in Art but A's in everything else. I imagine the teacher is kind of nuts since the kid actually likes art and does all the assignments.

We used to have one PE teacher who gives B to every body for every quarter but the last quarter, I guess that justified she taught something and the students mastered it at the end of the year. Guess what, she was put on extended medical leave and got removed from our school(not sure if she went to another school or forced to retire)

[Anonymous]

I would just like to point out that true to form, a certain type of parent who always does this is once again posting about the straight A's their kids are getting, despite that not being the point of the thread.

Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would just like to point out that true to form, a certain type of parent who always does this is once again posting about the straight A's their kids are getting, despite that not being the point of the thread.

Pathetic.

No, not pathetic, actually helpful because it counter-points the argument of the OP. Grow up sad person with drop out kids.

[Anonymous]

Actual data from WCHS:

406 with straight A's across full school ( Q1, 2023)
2234 students total (2022-23 number)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actual data from WCHS:

406 with straight A's across full school ( Q1, 2023)
2234 students total (2022-23 number)

WC = Churchill? That's awesome - 18%. Of course, this does not reflect GPA, which is based on semester grades. A lot of students receive a B in one quarter and then work harder in that specific class to earn the A 2nd quarter to get the A for the semester. I think that growth mindset of "what can I do better" is a positive, but many here on DCUM think the BA or AB = A system for the semester is BS