Everyone doesn’t get straight A’s in mcps

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I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.




Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.


Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.


Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.


Same for IT. You don’t even have to go to college. Get a cert and you’ll make very good money.


Any good CS job will require a college degree, not just a certification. If you want to be help desk, sure, a cert is fine but to make good money you need a degree and skills.


No you don’t.


Yes, you do. My spouse has a degree and is doing well and never an issue getting a job. His friend is equally skilled, no degree and really struggles to get jobs when his ends. And the pay is very different.
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I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.




Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.


Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.


Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.


Same for IT. You don’t even have to go to college. Get a cert and you’ll make very good money.


No cert required for IT. You can learn to plug in network cables and install anti-virus on YouTube.


Oh honey, IT is far more than network cable and anti-virus.
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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I was just poking fun at OP for not knowing grammar. “Everybody doesn’t,” technically means, “nobody does.” The correct way to express what OP meant is, “not everybody does.”
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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I was just poking fun at OP for not knowing grammar. “Everybody doesn’t,” technically means, “nobody does.” The correct way to express what OP meant is, “not everybody does.”


Grammar police?
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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I was just poking fun at OP for not knowing grammar. “Everybody doesn’t,” technically means, “nobody does.” The correct way to express what OP meant is, “not everybody does.”


I think the phrase you're looking for is "for not having a grasp of basic grammar"
Anonymous
As my Tiger mom said we are Asians not Bsians
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Anonymous wrote:They’re idiots who didn’t put any effort in. If you have a pulse you get an A.


These are the toxic posters on dcum that make others feel like their kids are somehow idiots.


Yep when in fact most of the time these differences in grades are a function of a specific teacher rather than curriculum or student.


+1

So true. There are some teachers that give As to everyone and some that really teach and the students really have to earn the As.
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Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I was just poking fun at OP for not knowing grammar. “Everybody doesn’t,” technically means, “nobody does.” The correct way to express what OP meant is, “not everybody does.”


You sure showed those morons William Shakespeare and JRR Tolkien how English works!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_glitters_is_not_gold
Anonymous
My kid got As and Bs in elementary. 6th grade is off to a rough start - mostly Cs and Ds. I’m optimistic he’ll figure it out and perform better going forward.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here- fyi, we are in a W feeder school and even here kids get B’s and C’s.


My MCPS kid had a 4.4 GPA (3.7+ unweighted) and was not in the top 25% of her class. While it’s an exaggeration to say that everyone gets straight As, there are a lot of kids who come pretty close.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I was just poking fun at OP for not knowing grammar. “Everybody doesn’t,” technically means, “nobody does.” The correct way to express what OP meant is, “not everybody does.”


You sure showed those morons William Shakespeare and JRR Tolkien how English works!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_glitters_is_not_gold


They were wrong, and Shakespeare was a long time ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I would respectful remind you that there are financial consequences to that.

When my SN kid with an IEP and a specific learning disability in math claws his way to AP Calc BC, it makes me think that some bright neurotypical kids with Bs and Cs in standard courses CHOOSE not to focus on academics - a choice that is perhaps a function of the environment at home. You and your child are free to make that choice.

Having gone through the college application process for this kid last year, I know that UMD and UVA GPA cutoffs are high these days. I know kids with weighted GPAs of 4.4, who had done several AP courses, who were rejected from UMD. UVA is more selective.

When you consider that in 2023, state flagships are 30-40K a year, total cost of attendance, and private universities and liberal arts colleges are in the 70-100K range;
And when you consider that college tuition has risen faster than inflation, when observed over several decades;

You start to realize that this approach limits your child's options. Of course, they can always attend a less-selective state option, where acceptance rates are in the 80%. That is always a fine choice.

There is an amusing notion that the C student becomes President, the B student the CEO, and the A student the busy worker bee.
That's only if your kid starts off with wealth and connections, or if they have an amazing knack for networking.

So make of that what you will.




Quite dramatic. There are so so so so so so many options out there to pursue higher education or a career outside of high school. I was an internship coordinator for a very highly selective internship program in biotech for years. We absolutely did not look at gpa. That just tells me your kid can test well it doesn’t tell me that your kid has their own initiative and can be successful outside of your home. Get a grip. Your poor kid.


Woosh, all the above info went over your head. The high school GPA is for getting admitted to the best college for the least money.

Are you suggesting high schoolers can forego college and go to trade school? Not many families want to go that route until it's clear that college isn't an option. In the US, having a college degree is still the best guarantee of future income.


Engineering, nursing, and education are all like trade school.


Same for IT. You don’t even have to go to college. Get a cert and you’ll make very good money.


No cert required for IT. You can learn to plug in network cables and install anti-virus on YouTube.


Oh honey, IT is far more than network cable and anti-virus.


You also install software and order replacement parts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kid got As and Bs in elementary. 6th grade is off to a rough start - mostly Cs and Ds. I’m optimistic he’ll figure it out and perform better going forward.
this is us too. Honor roll at end of 5th. Struggling to get Bs in 6th.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I'm not so sure I mean both my kids have straight A's so I'm starting to think it's true that everyone does at least the kids who show up and try.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Contrary to the popular belief on dcum kids in mcps get B’s and C’s. My DC’s friends in ES 5th grade told them proudly that they got a pretty good report card, almost straight B’s. This is just example. There are others.
A couple of years ago I asked about my DC then a 2nd grader if kids get B’s or C’s in elementary school and the posters here commented how my kid must have an undiagnosed learning disability or some other issue. Turns out they were wrong. My kid got B’s and C’s on tests because they like to finish quickly, do not check their work etc. But dcum will make you believe that every kid is a perfect straight A student.
Not true at all.



Why would you say that “everyone doesn’t get straight As?” Some kids do. My son just got straight As.


OP said it because it is true. Your son is not everyone, is he?


I'm not so sure I mean both my kids have straight A's so I'm starting to think it's true that everyone does at least the kids who show up and try.


Well if both your kids have straight A’s then it must be true right? 🙄. MCPS has over 160,000 students. Why do you think they relaxed the grading so much in recent years? The state of Maryland was using graduation rates as a metric and seniors were not graduating. Guess what happened then!! 50% for everything to start off, lax deadlines, extra attempts. Some teachers are going back to more rigorous grading now because getting an A doesn’t actually mean you learned anything in MCPS.
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