When was Joe Biden a private citizen? |
Go back through the thread, numerous sources and citations have been given regarding the potential issues with the laptop. Other groups who did forensic analysis on what was represented to them as images of the laptop drive found clear signs that files were added, files were altered, items were deleted, et cetera. If the drive image is truly identical, as drive images are supposed to be - then there is an issue with the laptop in the FBI's possession. However, it may also be the case that an identical image was made but then the image was altered afterward. And if so, when and by who and for what purpose? |
This - from what I can tell, the laptop was passed around like a bong before it reached the FBI. And if the drive images that were shared are identical to what the FBI has then they were tampered with before reaching the FBI. |
You are wrong. The original hard drive was given to the FBI by the shop owner. It was not "passed around." Copies of that were given to other parties. Still waiting on anyone to post an image, doc, file, or anything that was not authentic or that has proven to be fake or altered. |
How can we know what happened to the drive during the time it was in the possession of the shop owner? |
When Trump was in office, Joe Biden was a private citizen. |
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All of the key events surrounding the laptop occurred while both Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were private citizens, and while Donald Trump was in charge of the FBI and DOJ.
Think about that. And wonder to yourself how and why you keep coming up with some kind of weird rationalization that Joe Biden somehow did all this and that and then forced the FBI and DOJ to cover all of it up when he wasn't even in any position to do so. |
Do you have reputable sources for your claims? Post links to reputable sources. |
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If you read commitee transcript, FBI check cloud stored data vs laptop data. |
The FBI had the laptop in Nov, 2019. The NY Post article came out in Oct, 2020. The FBI had the laptop a full year before the existence of it was revealed to the public. They knew when the story was published that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden and the images released were real. |
Precisely this. The Republican’s “story” has too many characters and disparate bits of information that don’t add up to create a coherent narrative. It’s too difficult for the average person to follow along. Frankly, their whole pursuit sounds like the conspiracy theories of the homeless guy ranting on the corner. I know they are trying to find a pretext to impeach Biden in the middle of the 2024 POTUS campaign to distract from Trump’s actual crime cases, but this ain’t it. |
The laptop is real. Some of the alleged content is real. But does it show any actual crimes? That's the question. People like the NY Post who only have access to the known tampered images are claiming there are crimes. But FBI hasn't been inclined to agree. Note that the FBI got involved well before Biden's presidency. Trump was in charge when they decided to take a pass on pursuing Hunter for any potential crimes. Meanwhile Lev Parnas and other people in Trump's circle who worked with Giuliani are coming out and admitting that a lot of the things being claimed, like the second-hand account of "Biden received a multi-million-dollar bribe" was a fake story that Parnas and Giuliani intentionally swirled to try and smear the Bidens during the election. |
| Obviously, the FBI can't go after the Bidens solely due to the apparent crimes described on the laptop. They are going to have to find evidence of money being transferred to the Bidens, etc. So they can generate leads and develop information based on the laptop, but it ends there. I think most Republicans understand this, but I get the impression that Democrats don't. |
No, Democrats understand all of that quite well. But Democrats also understand that most of this happened under Trump's watch and that the FBI had ample time to do so yet failed to come up with any genuinely actionable leads. We're also largely sure that the FBI knows that some of the "corroborating" claims such as the FD-1023 and Bobulinski point to fake info, which is also why they did not pursue it. The rest of it is what most Republicans don't seem to understand - either that or they do understand but want to persist in being dishonest about it. |