Making religious comments without thinking

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Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If someone goes rabid if I say "bless you" after they sneeze, then I know to avoid that person like a plague because they might have a personality disorder with endless potential perceived slights.

+1

+2. I’m atheist and can’t imagine being angered by “bless you”.

I really never hear any of the things OP raised, nor do I say them. I can’t remember if I’ve ever been asked where I go to church. I think the Christian/atheist drama exists entirely in the minds of the DCUM religion forum posters.

I agree, so very much.

+3. Comparing “bless you” to an anti-gay slur is silly

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on every single thread might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on every single thread might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating?

Lol. Yeah those pesky facts and that inconvenient data... truly baffling how people could find that germane to discussions here.

And you are right, that data has been posted in every single thread here in the religion forum! If, by "every single thread" you mean exactly one of the ones currently on the first page.

How can you be so dishonest?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on every single thread might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating?

Lol. Yeah those pesky facts and that inconvenient data... truly baffling how people could find that germane to discussions here.

And you are right, that data has been posted in every single thread here in the religion forum! If, by "every single thread" you mean exactly one of the ones currently on the first page.

How can you be so dishonest?

No, “the decline and fall of Christianity” has been posted on lots of threads, including “I feel cut off from God” for sure and others I don’t have time to ferret out.

Who’s dishonest?

I don’t care, really. Just expressing astonishment that some atheist feels a need to keep posting it, or thinks it does any good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on every single thread might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating?

Lol. Yeah those pesky facts and that inconvenient data... truly baffling how people could find that germane to discussions here.

And you are right, that data has been posted in every single thread here in the religion forum! If, by "every single thread" you mean exactly one of the ones currently on the first page.

How can you be so dishonest?

No, “the decline and fall of Christianity” has been posted on lots of threads, including “I feel cut off from God” for sure and others I don’t have time to ferret out.

Who’s dishonest?

I don’t care, really. Just expressing astonishment that some atheist feels a need to keep posting it, or thinks it does any good.

I know you don't care about being dishonest. That is obvious.

"I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070. "

Not even close to every single thread, in fact only one on the first page - that is before the curiously coincidental bump of the church attendance thread. But even with that, only two.

You doubled down on the dishonest.

[Anonymous]

^^^ don’t care what untrue ad hominems you lob my way, just glad you know we see you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If someone goes rabid if I say "bless you" after they sneeze, then I know to avoid that person like a plague because they might have a personality disorder with endless potential perceived slights.

+1

Some people live to be perpetually offended. Their lives must be so easy if they have the energy get upset about these things.

[Anonymous]

^ I agree. I had a preacher once tell me "God loves you." I felt like telling him that's the biggest crock of you-know-what, but instead I just said "thank-you. I hope so."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on every single thread might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating?

Lol. Yeah those pesky facts and that inconvenient data... truly baffling how people could find that germane to discussions here.

And you are right, that data has been posted in every single thread here in the religion forum! If, by "every single thread" you mean exactly one of the ones currently on the first page.

How can you be so dishonest?

No, “the decline and fall of Christianity” has been posted on lots of threads, including “I feel cut off from God” for sure and others I don’t have time to ferret out.

Who’s dishonest?

I don’t care, really. Just expressing astonishment that some atheist feels a need to keep posting it, or thinks it does any good.

They ignore the data that shows Christianity is growing worldwide. They ignore the data that says atheism is projected to decrease worldwide, as well.

Christianity is exploding in Africa and Asia.

Atheists are white males who don’t like kids, so of course it’s not a segment of society that will ever have a robust population.

Also- atheists get light headed and upset when they sneeze and someone politely says “bless you.” Not the most hardy people, it’s no surprise they are not growing and thriving in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ I agree. I had a preacher once tell me "God loves you." I felt like telling him that's the biggest crock of you-know-what, but instead I just said "thank-you. I hope so."

You definitely missed a great chance to educate the pastor and let him know you don’t need love or hope. Only weak and ignorant folks need love and hope.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I think OP is kind of trolling but I was at a bar the other night and was talking to a guy casually and kind of jokingly told him to give me his elevator pitch of who he was as a person and he kicked it off with 'I am a God fearing Christian' or something like that and I have to admit it took effort to keep the surprise off my face.

Of course there's nothing wrong with that, but it seemed like a very intense way to talk to a girl at a bar who was wearing black lipstick haha.

OP here. Definitely not trolling – genuinely curious, especially when I realized that as a society, we have managed to try to be kind to people who are in the minority. For example, the term "fag" and the usually pejoratively expressed “homosexual” changed over time to “gay” – a positive word. And Now there’s LGBTQ.

As a society, we’re moving away from unconsciously stigmatizing people who are not in the majority. I’d like to see it happen with people who don’t believe in God, too.

I’d sure like to hear from some religious people who think it’s a good idea to avoid using religious speech in secular settings.

Stopping someone from saying Good bless you because you hate their religion is not the same as someone hatefully name calling a gay person. You actually have it backward. You are the one asking people to pretend to be something they aren't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absence of an established state religion does not mean that a country is secular.

It does mean the country is secular. Maybe you're thinking of the people living in the country.

NP. The original poster said "secular nation," which can definitely mean "the people" not merely the state. PP also followed that up with:

"The majority of those who live in this country are, and have always been, religious.

Many Americans practice Christianity, their individual beliefs have influenced society"

The meaning was very clear that most Americans are Christians and thus Christian belief underlies a lot of Americans culture.

I don't believe this is true anymore -- maybe not since the 70s. American culture is driven by more by our belief in the "American way" and by consumerism. Christianity is way down the list, and with the younger people it's falling farther behind all the time.

The Christian Right has gained more influence since the 70's, but I hope you're correct about Christianity falling behind among young people. I think that goes for religion overall, in part because more kids these days are being raised without religion.

On a completely different note, I’m fascinated by the atheist who jumps on every single thread to inform us that Christianity is dying. Even Pew doesn’t say it’s away by 2070.

Wishful thinking? It does seem like some sorry of pathetic wishful thinking, as if repeating it on every single thread might make it zero out, which it won’t. Or maybe it’s unattractive gloating?

Lol. Yeah those pesky facts and that inconvenient data... truly baffling how people could find that germane to discussions here.

And you are right, that data has been posted in every single thread here in the religion forum! If, by "every single thread" you mean exactly one of the ones currently on the first page.

How can you be so dishonest?

No, “the decline and fall of Christianity” has been posted on lots of threads, including “I feel cut off from God” for sure and others I don’t have time to ferret out.

Who’s dishonest?

I don’t care, really. Just expressing astonishment that some atheist feels a need to keep posting it, or thinks it does any good.

They ignore the data that shows Christianity is growing worldwide. They ignore the data that says atheism is projected to decrease worldwide, as well.

Christianity is exploding in Africa and Asia.

Atheists are white males who don’t like kids, so of course it’s not a segment of society that will ever have a robust population.

Also- atheists get light headed and upset when they sneeze and someone politely says “bless you.” Not the most hardy people, it’s no surprise they are not growing and thriving in the world.

That has to be due to missionaries. I mean, it's not endemic to that area.
I will say that in some places like the Philippines, if you're born - you're a Catholic. So as the population grows the number of Catholics grows.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ I agree. I had a preacher once tell me "God loves you." I felt like telling him that's the biggest crock of you-know-what, but instead I just said "thank-you. I hope so."

You definitely missed a great chance to educate the pastor and let him know you don’t need love or hope. Only weak and ignorant folks need love and hope.

Maybe you're being facetious, but he was well-meaning and I saw no need to pick a fight. Here on DCUM, yeah I'd go ahead and argue that point.

[Anonymous]

Atheists are white males who don’t like kids, so of course it’s not a segment of society that will ever have a robust population.

This comment shows you are a terrible person and a liar.