Marriage is a horrible deal for women

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This garbage again.

If marriage is such a bad deal for women, why are women always the ones who push for it? Are women stupid?

Nature calls. they want babies and hope for the better. Yes, stupid in a way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wome in traditional marriages are the happiest. It’s the only way to do marriage.

I am divorced and agree…but most men now (and in the last 15 years) want a dual income household. So, marriage is a bad deal for the woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This garbage again.

If marriage is such a bad deal for women, why are women always the ones who push for it? Are women stupid?

My ex husband was pushing for marriage—not me. I thought it was a bad deal. He and everyone insisted I was just cynical. I was right—it was a very bad deal for me. Great for him—sucked for me…as I suspected.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wome in traditional marriages are the happiest. It’s the only way to do marriage.

I am divorced and agree…but most men now (and in the last 15 years) want a dual income household. So, marriage is a bad deal for the woman.

Exactly, because she ends up working 2 shifts and he does 1 shift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do agree with that. As a woman who makes around 300K I work many more hours than men in the same position (they make half a million). I also was routinely passed on promotions, given more admin tasks at work, which resulted in me taking more time/efforts to climb up. If you add the child birth and household duties on top of that (men are traditionally are not great at that, so working women still pull off most on the home front), this results in a huge tax on woman's body, time and own financial stability.

I went through this in my marriage (my ex was well paid, we were roughly equal but he didn't pull off the home duties), and I do not want to remarry unless a candidate can offer a really great lifestyle, which would take many daily tasks off my table. For example, if I could work less hours when I am with my partner, if he is indeed an equal contributor at home, with kids etc. Men should bring more to the table financially if they are not pulling it off at home.

I think I will be partnered but won't remarry after my divorce as it's objectively hard to find such a husband. I've met many guys who are working low stress jobs, live in messy places, travel cheaply, play music after 6pm devoting time to their hobbies and interests, and they don't plan to change their lifestyle for a woman. Being with someone like that would result in me working again like a horse while he rests aside

+1, right down to the salary difference

[Anonymous]

My husband is not rich. He makes 200k a year.

He cooks, cleans, reads to the children every night and prays with them every night, takes children to sports practice every day, organizes their schedules and doctors' appointments, helps them with their laundry, buys them birthday gifts etc.

We have great sex too.

Marriage is a great deal for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband is not rich. He makes 200k a year.

He cooks, cleans, reads to the children every night and prays with them every night, takes children to sports practice every day, organizes their schedules and doctors' appointments, helps them with their laundry, buys them birthday gifts etc.

We have great sex too.

Marriage is a great deal for me.

And I would love to have a husband like that but that’s very rare. Most of these 200k guys are self-absorbed, just as controlling and dominant as wealthy men, think they are entitled to focus on their hobbies after regular work hours while their wife/partner is running around with kids&maintaining the household. Marriage is 2 shifts for most women !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wome in traditional marriages are the happiest. It’s the only way to do marriage.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless the husband is rich.

Women do most of the unpaid and unnoticed domestic labor in the home. They use their body to create babies and then do most of the childcare.

If the husband isn’t rich, what does he bring to the table?

If the husband is rich, sands prenup, greatest deal ever for a woman!

If the prenup is to protect her, and guarantees annual pension contributions, grad education while she is popping out kids, alimony, education for kids, tenancy rights at marital home till kids are off to college etc then yes, it's a great deal for a woman who wants to devote herself to motherhood

Motherhood is a job on its own, very undervalued.

Motherhood is not a “job.” It is a condition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's the motherhood that's a raw deal.

+1. This is the reality. Society and biology make us blame the man vs. the children.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is not rich. He makes 200k a year.

He cooks, cleans, reads to the children every night and prays with them every night, takes children to sports practice every day, organizes their schedules and doctors' appointments, helps them with their laundry, buys them birthday gifts etc.

We have great sex too.

Marriage is a great deal for me.

And I would love to have a husband like that but that’s very rare. Most of these 200k guys are self-absorbed, just as controlling and dominant as wealthy men, think they are entitled to focus on their hobbies after regular work hours while their wife/partner is running around with kids&maintaining the household. Marriage is 2 shifts for most women !

None of my friends are married to the self absorbed type of guy you describe. Maybe you should strive to meet better people

Most marriages in my cicle fall apart when both spouses hit 40s. I only know one happy marriage where both spouses worked, maintained a lot of house staff including driviers. They recently retired abroad getting a property there. Everyone else appear miserable and wives raise their voice at husbands publicily, complaining at the same things.

I am divorced, and after attending a party at my former neighborhood with my new BF the wives are now all interested in hanging out with me. And their 50+ husbands look fat and ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most men are also unable to meet a woman’s emotional and intellectual needs as well. They need to be used for their wallet and their sperm.

You mean most men are also unable to tolerate bipolar behavior

[Anonymous]

I'm happily married in a dual-income marriage (spouse cooks, cleans, does laundry, handles kid medical appointments and camp/activity sign ups) but I seem to be in the minority. Most of my women peers who WOH take on way more of the domestic and parenting tasks and resent their spouses for it.

Most of the happily married women I know are SAHMs, some married to high earners, but not all. It's a weird DCUM fanfic/revenge fantasy that all their husbands resent them and cheat on them on work trips.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's the motherhood that's a raw deal.

+1. This is the reality. Society and biology make us blame the man vs. the children.

Children tend to s..t a lot, scream, get sick and run a lot. That is normal to expect when you plan for kids. Women also expect men to engage mitigating all these things when kids are born equally.

If men were running after kdis, picking up the vomit, took them to doctors and after school activities just like moms do, working wives wouldn't be exhausted and marriages would be happier. It's the men, not the children!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My husband is not rich. He makes 200k a year.

He cooks, cleans, reads to the children every night and prays with them every night, takes children to sports practice every day, organizes their schedules and doctors' appointments, helps them with their laundry, buys them birthday gifts etc.

We have great sex too.

Marriage is a great deal for me.

And I would love to have a husband like that but that’s very rare. Most of these 200k guys are self-absorbed, just as controlling and dominant as wealthy men, think they are entitled to focus on their hobbies after regular work hours while their wife/partner is running around with kids&maintaining the household. Marriage is 2 shifts for most women !

None of my friends are married to the self absorbed type of guy you describe. Maybe you should strive to meet better people

Most marriages in my cicle fall apart when both spouses hit 40s. I only know one happy marriage where both spouses worked, maintained a lot of house staff including driviers. They recently retired abroad getting a property there. Everyone else appear miserable and wives raise their voice at husbands publicily, complaining at the same things.

I am divorced, and after attending a party at my former neighborhood with my new BF the wives are now all interested in hanging out with me. And their 50+ husbands look fat and ugly.

Most marriages in my circle are very strong. They are more traditional styles of marriage.They appear very happy and are planning their lives after the kids are gone and very much looking forward to the next phase. We are members of local running community and everyone is pretty fit. Life is full of decisions, make better ones