Marriage is a horrible deal for women

[Anonymous]

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This does not add up.

If he were in the top 10%, he would need a job such as a law partner or doctor, which would make him part of the working wealthy. And to stay within the 10%, he would not be washing dishes (or doing so on a very infrequent basis.) He would be working more than 60 hours a week. I know because I do it.

Now he could contribute income, and you can contribute your uterus (for whatever it is worth), and you are happy with that; however, he would not be busting his guts at work to come home to bust suds for you.

Try again. And this time, try the truth.

You’re obviously not very well valued by your employer if it would take you 60 hours per week to be in the top 10% by income. We both took jobs in which we had the negotiating power to work fewer than 60 hours per week, even though that does mean we forwent additional income as others point out.

Your response told me all I needed to know about you and your "top 10%" status. I am the type of person at your firm you would be negotiating with to be able to work less than 60 a week.

You are not an owner or part of the leadership circle where you work. We (the people in this circle) work long hours because we run something we own and love. It takes time to build a business, the time you must spend with clients, etc. instead of washing dishes.

Let me put it in a way you might understand it. I am one of the employers assigning the values (in terms of compensation), not one of the employees to whom a value is assigned (i.e., you.)

Lol. In a post full of cringey comments, this one is the cringiest.

Ok girl boss. You go get ‘em. We are totally taking you seriously over here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why anyone gets worked up over the idea that an institution designed by men, for the benefit of men, is not magically equally good for women. Why would we expect it to be?

I'm struggling to see how modern marriage is good for men in any way? What do men get out of it? It seems very beneficial for women though. They get legal access to husband's income, which is usually higher than theirs.

Free sex.

Free care of a home and possessions. Free cheerleader. Free Meal maker. Free cleaner. Free holiday maker. Free event planner. Free organizer. Free child bearer. Free child carer. Free friend maker. Free problem solver. Free emotional healer. Free money maker and/or money saver. Free friend.

[Anonymous]

These transactional relationship issues are unbelievable constantly calculating the transactions. Once people wanted to get married and contribute to their family, lineage, and society. Saw it as their duty and enjoyed it because it was also the popular thing to do so you fit in easily.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why anyone gets worked up over the idea that an institution designed by men, for the benefit of men, is not magically equally good for women. Why would we expect it to be?

I'm struggling to see how modern marriage is good for men in any way? What do men get out of it? It seems very beneficial for women though. They get legal access to husband's income, which is usually higher than theirs.

Free sex.

Free care of a home and possessions. Free cheerleader. Free Meal maker. Free cleaner. Free holiday maker. Free event planner. Free organizer. Free child bearer. Free child carer. Free friend maker. Free problem solver. Free emotional healer. Free money maker and/or money saver. Free friend.

My DH tells others when they ask him why he looks so good, and he says because I just have a happy life with my wife. And I have the same sentiment when I think about our marriage. When you find the right person you really do compliment and make each others life so much better. I do not see that often but I do know of couple, in addition to us, who have such harmony in they way they approach their marriage. No one is keeping score of who's cooking, cleaning, whatever, we just work well together and somehow everything magically gets done without fighting and constance conversations about the basics in life. Everyone has to eat, do laundry, clean the house, gas up the car, pick up a kid, take care of a pet, etc., I don't care who does what and neither does he, as long as it gets done and things are not neglected so it becomes overwhelming to one or both of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These transactional relationship issues are unbelievable constantly calculating the transactions. Once people wanted to get married and contribute to their family, lineage, and society. Saw it as their duty and enjoyed it because it was also the popular thing to do so you fit in easily.

Ah the business of marriage, it seems it is constantly being destroyed and looked down upon in our society. Makes for a lot of sad lonely old people, just saying.

[Anonymous]

Lol. In a post full of cringey comments, this one is the cringiest.

Ok girl boss. You go get ‘em. We are totally taking you seriously over here.

No need to call me "girl boss."

You can just call me "boss." You likely already do.

And, your "man" (i.e., the boy who gives you half his moment and does your dishes) can also call me boss.

[Anonymous]

You’re obviously not very well valued by your employer if it would take you 60 hours per week to be in the top 10% by income. We both took jobs in which we had the negotiating power to work fewer than 60 hours per week, even though that does mean we forwent additional income as others point out.

OMG. "Forwent"? Really?

Where are you posting from, Downton Abbey?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You’re obviously not very well valued by your employer if it would take you 60 hours per week to be in the top 10% by income. We both took jobs in which we had the negotiating power to work fewer than 60 hours per week, even though that does mean we forwent additional income as others point out.

You have got to be kidding me. This is not a particularly impressive accomplishment at all. I am in the top 10% of income working about 20-30 hours a week (if that) from wherever I want to, which is 50-100% less than I could be earning in a more time- consuming job. I am
not especially successful or illustrious and it sounds like neither are you. I also don’t need anyone to bow to me or call me boss. You are way, way too self-impressed. Top 10% income is like the minimum for what someone with an elite education should earn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You’re obviously not very well valued by your employer if it would take you 60 hours per week to be in the top 10% by income. We both took jobs in which we had the negotiating power to work fewer than 60 hours per week, even though that does mean we forwent additional income as others point out.

OMG. "Forwent"? Really?

Where are you posting from, Downton Abbey?

Be kind, grammar is the only thing she does well.

[Anonymous]

You have got to be kidding me. This is not a particularly impressive accomplishment at all. I am in the top 10% of income working about 20-30 hours a week (if that) from wherever I want to, which is 50-100% less than I could be earning in a more time- consuming job. I am
not especially successful or illustrious and it sounds like neither are you. I also don’t need anyone to bow to me or call me boss. You are way, way too self-impressed. Top 10% income is like the minimum for what someone with an elite education should earn.

Honey, you cannot even copy and paste a quote in this forum, and you want us to believe you are in the "top 10% of income"?

Go back and look at your original post.

You are not even "successful or illustrious" enough to write it without multiple mistakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Lol. In a post full of cringey comments, this one is the cringiest.

Ok girl boss. You go get ‘em. We are totally taking you seriously over here.

No need to call me "girl boss."

You can just call me "boss." You likely already do.

And, your "man" (i.e., the boy who gives you half his moment and does your dishes) can also call me boss.

LOL! I actually laughed out loud.

Nothing you’re saying convinces anyone of your narrative. You seem small and unimpressive, manufacturing a persona to live within online to make your life a tiny bit less boring for a short period of time to allow yourself the fantasy of being important, if only within your own mind.

[Anonymous]

LOL! I actually laughed out loud.

Nothing you’re saying convinces anyone of your narrative. You seem small and unimpressive, manufacturing a persona to live within online to make your life a tiny bit less boring for a short period of time to allow yourself the fantasy of being important, if only within your own mind.

Next time, you should lead with "Dear Boss."

No one laughs at your posts. Instead, people feel sorry for you. I know I do.

[Anonymous]

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LOL! I actually laughed out loud.

Nothing you’re saying convinces anyone of your narrative. You seem small and unimpressive, manufacturing a persona to live within online to make your life a tiny bit less boring for a short period of time to allow yourself the fantasy of being important, if only within your own mind.

Next time, you should lead with "Dear Boss."

No one laughs at your posts. Instead, people feel sorry for you. I know I do.

You are so strange. Are you a dominatrix?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These transactional relationship issues are unbelievable constantly calculating the transactions. Once people wanted to get married and contribute to their family, lineage, and society. Saw it as their duty and enjoyed it because it was also the popular thing to do so you fit in easily.

Ah the business of marriage, it seems it is constantly being destroyed and looked down upon in our society. Makes for a lot of sad lonely old people, just saying.

Marriage sucks. 100% happier alone. I am not lonely. I was lonely in a marriage…that is the worst loneliness there is and it is horribly hopeless. People who don’t want to marry are not lonely. Most divorced people prefer being divorced.

[Anonymous]

Next time, you should lead with "Dear Boss."

No one laughs at your posts. Instead, people feel sorry for you. I know I do.

You are so strange. Are you a dominatrix?

I told you to lead with "Dear Boss."

Are you looking for a dominatrix? Your thoughts went there quickly.

Is that what you do for your 20 or 30 hours of well-paid work per week? I am not judging. It would explain a lot of your issues.

It explain ever more about your dishwashing sub of a husband.