Most young men are single - most young women are not

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This has always been the case. Men get married later. My friend group we all lived in Manhattan when single we all started getting married between 32 and 36.

Why? We had an endless supply of 18-30 year old girls to date. From college right up to around 10 years after college.

I met my wife when I was 34. I would not say this out loud but she was option 7. I had four girlfriends I ended it as did not want marriage. I had 3 others chasing me but just boooty call girls. To go deeper I say 3-5 girls I never asked out as 100 percent clear they are looking marriage. Even after I proposed in that one year period I had two exes I dated briefly before getting engaged circling the waters.

A women’s peak years to get a great mate is 20-29 a man it goes 20-38.

My male friend got married first time at 44 to a beautiful
34 year old women and had three kids. Of course he told me he slept with 200 women so had special was that wedding night.


I think you and your friends are a special of something @#$!!. I would not consider you the norm in my circle of peers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This has always been the case. Men get married later. My friend group we all lived in Manhattan when single we all started getting married between 32 and 36.

Why? We had an endless supply of 18-30 year old girls to date. From college right up to around 10 years after college.

I met my wife when I was 34. I would not say this out loud but she was option 7. I had four girlfriends I ended it as did not want marriage. I had 3 others chasing me but just boooty call girls. To go deeper I say 3-5 girls I never asked out as 100 percent clear they are looking marriage. Even after I proposed in that one year period I had two exes I dated briefly before getting engaged circling the waters.

A women’s peak years to get a great mate is 20-29 a man it goes 20-38.

My male friend got married first time at 44 to a beautiful
34 year old women and had three kids. Of course he told me he slept with 200 women so had special was that wedding night.


Exactly, I thought this was well known. When I was in high school, the most desirable girls had a college boyfriend. I remember one of my 16 year old friends was dating a 24 year old guy! A college dude was trying to steal my 15 year old girlfriend away for a couple months junior year. Crazy. Then in college, a lot of desirable girls are dating working professionals. My wife is 7 years younger than me. We met when I was 31 and she was 24. I thought this is how life has always been and somehow people are surprised at this survey


I know a bright young lady (one of my DS’s friends) a 23-year old T50 school grad working at a very well-known company, who is currently dating a 35-year old grocery store manager and has been since her junior year of college. Prior to that, he was her manager at that grocery store while she worked there part-time.

A trend I’ve noticed among his HS peers, based on information he’s shared, is that in the “high school sweethearts” who are still together, a lot of the men (at least the ones pursuing college), are still not done with undergrad. Some of these men are living with their GFs, who are making $80k+, and basically being supported by them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Single motherhood has exploded.


This is...not a good thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's new? Isn't this much of human history? Men had multiple wives and/or younger wives.


There is something to this, but much of human history also had much more dangerous living conditions and kinetic/deadly warfare to cull the excess men and keep things stable.


+1

Women that can't find work or finish college can still find a partner. Women that can't find a partner aren't really seen as threatening.

Large groups of unattached males without work or a relationship are generally seen as threatening. Men concentrating themselves into toxic group think culture with leaders like Tate or straight up incel groups are seen as threatening to society in general.


Unattached men - which could mean apathetic or uninvested men - are more threatening to society. Men in general are more threatening to society when you look at perpetrators of violent crime.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's new? Isn't this much of human history? Men had multiple wives and/or younger wives.


There is something to this, but much of human history also had much more dangerous living conditions and kinetic/deadly warfare to cull the excess men and keep things stable.


+1

Women that can't find work or finish college can still find a partner. Women that can't find a partner aren't really seen as threatening.

Large groups of unattached males without work or a relationship are generally seen as threatening. Men concentrating themselves into toxic group think culture with leaders like Tate or straight up incel groups are seen as threatening to society in general.


Unattached men - which could mean apathetic or uninvested men - are more threatening to society. Men in general are more threatening to society when you look at perpetrators of violent crime.


They need the civilizing influence of a proximate woman.
Anonymous
The article isn’t a mystery. Women are more economically stable, and therefore are less likely to settle for any old guy. They enjoy their friendships with their female friends more than going on bad dates. I have a few friends in their 30s, 40s who never wanted kids and don’t really care about finding a boyfriend or husband. The men are going to have to find their way in a new landscape.

For sure the rise of the internet, gaming, and virtual interaction is hurting everyone’s relationships if they get too far in. We limit our sons’ gaming and they do a lot of scouting and sports as well as hanging out in person with other guys and girls (8th grade).
Anonymous
It is bad for a society's long run stability to have large numbers of single, underemployed, bitter men. America has been heading in this direction for a decade or so. It's not healthy that liberals scoff at studies like this with platitudes about how women are better off without men, that they're losers, etc. If we keep telling young men that they are violent, toxic sub-humans, they will continue to fail, and we will eventually have very bad outcomes. Look at Syria, Egypt, Italy for models. It is in the best interest of democracy in the United States to have *equality* of the sexes (not a war--which women have been winning for a while), and for most men to be in healthy, stable relationships. I don't know why this is controversial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Single motherhood has exploded.


This is...not a good thing.


It’s a great thing. Women who want children are better positioned economically and socially to have them than ever before in history. They should not be required to be in a relationship to do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is bad for a society's long run stability to have large numbers of single, underemployed, bitter men. America has been heading in this direction for a decade or so. It's not healthy that liberals scoff at studies like this with platitudes about how women are better off without men, that they're losers, etc. If we keep telling young men that they are violent, toxic sub-humans, they will continue to fail, and we will eventually have very bad outcomes. Look at Syria, Egypt, Italy for models. It is in the best interest of democracy in the United States to have *equality* of the sexes (not a war--which women have been winning for a while), and for most men to be in healthy, stable relationships. I don't know why this is controversial.


The bisexual ones should date each other instead of being scared and ashamed of being called gay. That should help some.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Single motherhood has exploded.


This is...not a good thing.


It’s great. Women are tired of men not being good partners who actually help out around the house.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought two-thirds of teenage girls were suicidal? I wonder if maybe these phenomena the press keeps reporting are overblown or inaccurate.


One-third of teen girls are depressed and have contemplated suicide.

As of 2022, Pew Research Center found, 30 percent of U.S. adults are neither married, living with a partner nor engaged in a committed relationship. Nearly half of all young adults are single: 34 percent of women, and a whopping 63 percent of men.


Lol.

Survey: Are you in a relationship?

Her: Of course! He isn’t as attentive as he needs to be, and he forgot Valentine’s Day, and he doesn’t meet all of my needs, but we’re working through it.

Him: Nah.


100% this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is bad for a society's long run stability to have large numbers of single, underemployed, bitter men. America has been heading in this direction for a decade or so. It's not healthy that liberals scoff at studies like this with platitudes about how women are better off without men, that they're losers, etc. If we keep telling young men that they are violent, toxic sub-humans, they will continue to fail, and we will eventually have very bad outcomes. Look at Syria, Egypt, Italy for models. It is in the best interest of democracy in the United States to have *equality* of the sexes (not a war--which women have been winning for a while), and for most men to be in healthy, stable relationships. I don't know why this is controversial.


The bisexual ones should date each other instead of being scared and ashamed of being called gay. That should help some.


Yes, let’s look at Egypt and Syria. I wasn’t aware women were considered equal or being empowered above men. Please show data. Otherwise, your comparison is makes no sense. But I could already see your critical thinking was off by saying “the bisexual ones should date each other.” I would love to hear more about this.
Anonymous
Sorry, we’re Americans and working is the solution to everything. We live and breathe work. Work, work, work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It is bad for a society's long run stability to have large numbers of single, underemployed, bitter men. America has been heading in this direction for a decade or so. It's not healthy that liberals scoff at studies like this with platitudes about how women are better off without men, that they're losers, etc. If we keep telling young men that they are violent, toxic sub-humans, they will continue to fail, and we will eventually have very bad outcomes. Look at Syria, Egypt, Italy for models. It is in the best interest of democracy in the United States to have *equality* of the sexes (not a war--which women have been winning for a while), and for most men to be in healthy, stable relationships. I don't know why this is controversial.


The bisexual ones should date each other instead of being scared and ashamed of being called gay. That should help some.


Yes, let’s look at Egypt and Syria. I wasn’t aware women were considered equal or being empowered above men. Please show data. Otherwise, your comparison is makes no sense. But I could already see your critical thinking was off by saying “the bisexual ones should date each other.” I would love to hear more about this.


And what is the comment about Italy about? What's going on there?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The article isn’t a mystery. Women are more economically stable, and therefore are less likely to settle for any old guy. They enjoy their friendships with their female friends more than going on bad dates. I have a few friends in their 30s, 40s who never wanted kids and don’t really care about finding a boyfriend or husband. The men are going to have to find their way in a new landscape.

For sure the rise of the internet, gaming, and virtual interaction is hurting everyone’s relationships if they get too far in. We limit our sons’ gaming and they do a lot of scouting and sports as well as hanging out in person with other guys and girls (8th grade).



Gaming isn’t the problem. It’s a scapegoat.
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