Germany/Poland or Serbia/Slovakia with Older Teens

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

What an absurd and ridiculous comment. Poland is an incredibly rich country and the hidden gem of Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are also well deserving of a visit. Living in Europe, I pass reminders of the Holocaust on a daily basis. Huge Jewish cemeteries in towns where there are no longer any Jewish residents. In one Jewish cemetery I visited this week, there was an urn containing soap made from human fat at a German death camp. As someone with family murdered by the Germans, I never forget. So why don’t you tell me more about this wonderful German “culture and history.”

I am sorry about the tragedy that happened but Germany is much more than the Holocaust

Yet with that insight how come you post so horribly about the other countries on op’s list?
Aren’t Serbs and Slovaks, etc more than 90s conflicts ( which had nothing to do with Poland and Slovakia).
Btw whatever happened in former Yugoslavia should not be applied to non Yugoslav countries and pales in comparison to German atrocities.

You must be confusing me with another poster?
I merely meant that there isn’t much worthy of seeing in countries listed other than Germany. I am not an advocate of not going to a country because there was something unseemly in their history. It’s the past and while we should remember it we should also remember the good things

You must not be very curious or well traveled. Each of the countries OP inquired about is incredibly rich in history, culture, and sites of interest. If you can’t see beyond the overtouristed attractions of Germany, then it’s your loss.

You are right about not being well traveled. So many countries to see before I’d want to visit Slovakia or some such
Maybe OP has seen all the old Europe, idk, but if not, than it makes me wonder

That explains your ignorance then. Go enjoy Oktoberfest in your lederhosen and please stop commenting as you have nothing to add to this discussion.

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Anonymous wrote:Having lived in Germany and spent a lot of time in Slovakia (and many other countries in Europe, besides Serbia), I have to say that I don't think any Eastern european food is "good." It's pretty basic stuff not far off what you might find in appalachia. Pieces of meat in nondescript bland sauce, boiled/fried potatoes, various soups (creamy and not). Oh, watch out for the Paprikash - this is made from a pepper that is about as spicy as a green bell pepper and gets all the Slovaks sweating and fanning their mouths because it's the most flavorful thing that exists in their country. Be sure to visit a "nice restaurant" so they can put ketchup on pasta and call it italian-style spaghetti.

Of course, plenty of restaurants in Germany are also guilty of these war crimes and all you need to know is that the best food in Germany is a turkish fast food import called the Doner, and that they built a folk tale around the development of the "currywurst" (such an impactful culinary delight) which is just a sausage with some curry powder in it that is sold at every crappy food stand. That pretty much sums up their culinary delight.

You must be pretty bad at picking restaurants. Your Slavic food experience sounds like that of someone using an outdated Communist-era visitors guide.

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Slovakia is pretty.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

What an absurd and ridiculous comment. Poland is an incredibly rich country and the hidden gem of Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are also well deserving of a visit. Living in Europe, I pass reminders of the Holocaust on a daily basis. Huge Jewish cemeteries in towns where there are no longer any Jewish residents. In one Jewish cemetery I visited this week, there was an urn containing soap made from human fat at a German death camp. As someone with family murdered by the Germans, I never forget. So why don’t you tell me more about this wonderful German “culture and history.”

I am sorry about the tragedy that happened but Germany is much more than the Holocaust

Yet with that insight how come you post so horribly about the other countries on op’s list?
Aren’t Serbs and Slovaks, etc more than 90s conflicts ( which had nothing to do with Poland and Slovakia).
Btw whatever happened in former Yugoslavia should not be applied to non Yugoslav countries and pales in comparison to German atrocities.

You must be confusing me with another poster?
I merely meant that there isn’t much worthy of seeing in countries listed other than Germany. I am not an advocate of not going to a country because there was something unseemly in their history. It’s the past and while we should remember it we should also remember the good things

You must not be very curious or well traveled. Each of the countries OP inquired about is incredibly rich in history, culture, and sites of interest. If you can’t see beyond the overtouristed attractions of Germany, then it’s your loss.

You are right about not being well traveled. So many countries to see before I’d want to visit Slovakia or some such
Maybe OP has seen all the old Europe, idk, but if not, than it makes me wonder

That explains your ignorance then. Go enjoy Oktoberfest in your lederhosen and please stop commenting as you have nothing to add to this discussion.

Hahaha ignorance! There’s not much to see in Eastern Europe and everyone knows that. Now, if they’ve seen all of the Western Europe then maybe. But there are other parts of the world as well…

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Anonymous wrote:Having lived in Germany and spent a lot of time in Slovakia (and many other countries in Europe, besides Serbia), I have to say that I don't think any Eastern european food is "good." It's pretty basic stuff not far off what you might find in appalachia. Pieces of meat in nondescript bland sauce, boiled/fried potatoes, various soups (creamy and not). Oh, watch out for the Paprikash - this is made from a pepper that is about as spicy as a green bell pepper and gets all the Slovaks sweating and fanning their mouths because it's the most flavorful thing that exists in their country. Be sure to visit a "nice restaurant" so they can put ketchup on pasta and call it italian-style spaghetti.

Of course, plenty of restaurants in Germany are also guilty of these war crimes and all you need to know is that the best food in Germany is a turkish fast food import called the Doner, and that they built a folk tale around the development of the "currywurst" (such an impactful culinary delight) which is just a sausage with some curry powder in it that is sold at every crappy food stand. That pretty much sums up their culinary delight.

You must be pretty bad at picking restaurants. Your Slavic food experience sounds like that of someone using an outdated Communist-era visitors guide.

DP but this comment sounds pretty lame while the original one is actually thoughtful

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

What an absurd and ridiculous comment. Poland is an incredibly rich country and the hidden gem of Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are also well deserving of a visit. Living in Europe, I pass reminders of the Holocaust on a daily basis. Huge Jewish cemeteries in towns where there are no longer any Jewish residents. In one Jewish cemetery I visited this week, there was an urn containing soap made from human fat at a German death camp. As someone with family murdered by the Germans, I never forget. So why don’t you tell me more about this wonderful German “culture and history.”

I am sorry about the tragedy that happened but Germany is much more than the Holocaust

Yet with that insight how come you post so horribly about the other countries on op’s list?
Aren’t Serbs and Slovaks, etc more than 90s conflicts ( which had nothing to do with Poland and Slovakia).
Btw whatever happened in former Yugoslavia should not be applied to non Yugoslav countries and pales in comparison to German atrocities.

You must be confusing me with another poster?
I merely meant that there isn’t much worthy of seeing in countries listed other than Germany. I am not an advocate of not going to a country because there was something unseemly in their history. It’s the past and while we should remember it we should also remember the good things

You must not be very curious or well traveled. Each of the countries OP inquired about is incredibly rich in history, culture, and sites of interest. If you can’t see beyond the overtouristed attractions of Germany, then it’s your loss.

You are right about not being well traveled. So many countries to see before I’d want to visit Slovakia or some such
Maybe OP has seen all the old Europe, idk, but if not, than it makes me wonder

That explains your ignorance then. Go enjoy Oktoberfest in your lederhosen and please stop commenting as you have nothing to add to this discussion.

Hahaha ignorance! There’s not much to see in Eastern Europe and everyone knows that. Now, if they’ve seen all of the Western Europe then maybe. But there are other parts of the world as well…

You are too clueless to warrant a substantive response.

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I wouldn't visit Serbia at the moment because I don't want to travel to a country with a homophobic and women discriminating government with a strong relationship to warlord Putin, a government that does not support the sanctions against Russia.

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Anonymous wrote:Having lived in Germany and spent a lot of time in Slovakia (and many other countries in Europe, besides Serbia), I have to say that I don't think any Eastern european food is "good." It's pretty basic stuff not far off what you might find in appalachia. Pieces of meat in nondescript bland sauce, boiled/fried potatoes, various soups (creamy and not). Oh, watch out for the Paprikash - this is made from a pepper that is about as spicy as a green bell pepper and gets all the Slovaks sweating and fanning their mouths because it's the most flavorful thing that exists in their country. Be sure to visit a "nice restaurant" so they can put ketchup on pasta and call it italian-style spaghetti.

Of course, plenty of restaurants in Germany are also guilty of these war crimes and all you need to know is that the best food in Germany is a turkish fast food import called the Doner, and that they built a folk tale around the development of the "currywurst" (such an impactful culinary delight) which is just a sausage with some curry powder in it that is sold at every crappy food stand. That pretty much sums up their culinary delight.

You must be pretty bad at picking restaurants. Your Slavic food experience sounds like that of someone using an outdated Communist-era visitors guide.

DP but this comment sounds pretty lame while the original one is actually thoughtful

How is the comment lame? I’ve lived in multiple Eastern European countries (Kosovo, Czech Republic, Poland). If you go to decent restaurants, the food is very flavorful. There are hold outs in some areas of restaurants that haven’t seemed to have recovered from the flavorless cooking of the communist era (when cooking staples were not always plentiful).

Also, food is an important part of any culture. Reading that PP’s comments (the one you thought helpful), there is such an undercurrent of condescension. Part of enjoying other cultures is understanding how they got to where they are….what they eat is a part of that journey.

I’ve never been in a restaurant in Eastern Europe that uses ketchup for spaghetti sauce. Who orders spaghetti in Bratislava, anyway? Also if you know how to pick restaurants well (read: not tourist traps), you will find the paprikash has a delightful smokey flavor. It’s not meant to be hot in the sense that we think of it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

What an absurd and ridiculous comment. Poland is an incredibly rich country and the hidden gem of Europe. Serbia and Slovakia are also well deserving of a visit. Living in Europe, I pass reminders of the Holocaust on a daily basis. Huge Jewish cemeteries in towns where there are no longer any Jewish residents. In one Jewish cemetery I visited this week, there was an urn containing soap made from human fat at a German death camp. As someone with family murdered by the Germans, I never forget. So why don’t you tell me more about this wonderful German “culture and history.”

Well said.

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My two cents - Austria, Bavaria, Prague (Czech Republic).

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All countries are great to travel to, but the more east/south you go, the more right wing the population becomes. If you’re white, it doesn’t matter.

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Anonymous wrote:All countries are great to travel to, but the more east/south you go, the more right wing the population becomes. If you’re white, it doesn’t matter.

Way to generalize and stereotype PP. This comment is not helpful.

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Did anyone end up traveling to Serbia?

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Anonymous wrote:Having lived in Germany and spent a lot of time in Slovakia (and many other countries in Europe, besides Serbia), I have to say that I don't think any Eastern european food is "good." It's pretty basic stuff not far off what you might find in appalachia. Pieces of meat in nondescript bland sauce, boiled/fried potatoes, various soups (creamy and not). Oh, watch out for the Paprikash - this is made from a pepper that is about as spicy as a green bell pepper and gets all the Slovaks sweating and fanning their mouths because it's the most flavorful thing that exists in their country. Be sure to visit a "nice restaurant" so they can put ketchup on pasta and call it italian-style spaghetti.

Of course, plenty of restaurants in Germany are also guilty of these war crimes and all you need to know is that the best food in Germany is a turkish fast food import called the Doner, and that they built a folk tale around the development of the "currywurst" (such an impactful culinary delight) which is just a sausage with some curry powder in it that is sold at every crappy food stand. That pretty much sums up their culinary delight.

You must be pretty bad at picking restaurants. Your Slavic food experience sounds like that of someone using an outdated Communist-era visitors guide.

DP but this comment sounds pretty lame while the original one is actually thoughtful

How is the comment lame? I’ve lived in multiple Eastern European countries (Kosovo, Czech Republic, Poland). If you go to decent restaurants, the food is very flavorful. There are hold outs in some areas of restaurants that haven’t seemed to have recovered from the flavorless cooking of the communist era (when cooking staples were not always plentiful).

Also, food is an important part of any culture. Reading that PP’s comments (the one you thought helpful), there is such an undercurrent of condescension. Part of enjoying other cultures is understanding how they got to where they are….what they eat is a part of that journey.

I’ve never been in a restaurant in Eastern Europe that uses ketchup for spaghetti sauce. Who orders spaghetti in Bratislava, anyway? Also if you know how to pick restaurants well (read: not tourist traps), you will find the paprikash has a delightful smokey flavor. It’s not meant to be hot in the sense that we think of it.

+1.

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I only skimmed parts of the thread, but has anyone suggested Croatia instead of Serbia? It's gorgeous. The food is fantastic. The islands are wonderful. There is something for everyone.