Germany/Poland or Serbia/Slovakia with Older Teens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly only Germany is worth it on your list
Culture and history and it’s a developed country

^ Excellent example of a bigot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Polish food isn’t great. And the political and social climate are very Catholic and borderline white supremacy. Plus: the Russia/Ukraine war.

Have you been to Norway? I’m watching a great show on Bergen on pbs right now.

Wow, have you been there? Or are you just stereotyping? Because Polish food is awesome, and the people are very kind and welcoming. And nothing against Bergen (it’s naturally stunning), but very expensive and pretty boring. But my guess is you’ve never been there either.

I’m Polish, and I stand by my comment that the food isn’t great and neither are the politics. I mean, come on. It’s a very white, very Catholic, very conservative country. Those are just facts.

Tell me which parts of Poland are fun for tourists? I’ll counter with better options.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the same bigot as the White German Nationalist.

[Anonymous]

Was just talking to someone who had recently been in Serbia. He said people were very hostile and on edge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Was just talking to someone who had recently been in Serbia. He said people were very hostile and on edge.

Plus they are still but hurt about being bombed by Americans. I’d do Slovakia personally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Was just talking to someone who had recently been in Serbia. He said people were very hostile and on edge.

Plus they are still but hurt about being bombed by Americans. I’d do Slovakia personally.

Where did he go and who did he talk to? I mean Belgrade has the biggest New Years parties and so many Europeans go there due to the social entertainment..but everyone certainly is entitled to their own experience and opinion

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Polish food isn’t great. And the political and social climate are very Catholic and borderline white supremacy. Plus: the Russia/Ukraine war.

Have you been to Norway? I’m watching a great show on Bergen on pbs right now.

Wow, have you been there? Or are you just stereotyping? Because Polish food is awesome, and the people are very kind and welcoming. And nothing against Bergen (it’s naturally stunning), but very expensive and pretty boring. But my guess is you’ve never been there either.

I’m Polish, and I stand by my comment that the food isn’t great and neither are the politics. I mean, come on. It’s a very white, very Catholic, very conservative country. Those are just facts.

Tell me which parts of Poland are fun for tourists? I’ll counter with better options.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the same bigot as the White German Nationalist.

Um, no.

I’m an American-born Pole living in MoCo with a social justice job in DC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Polish food isn’t great. And the political and social climate are very Catholic and borderline white supremacy. Plus: the Russia/Ukraine war.

Have you been to Norway? I’m watching a great show on Bergen on pbs right now.

Wow, have you been there? Or are you just stereotyping? Because Polish food is awesome, and the people are very kind and welcoming. And nothing against Bergen (it’s naturally stunning), but very expensive and pretty boring. But my guess is you’ve never been there either.

I’m Polish, and I stand by my comment that the food isn’t great and neither are the politics. I mean, come on. It’s a very white, very Catholic, very conservative country. Those are just facts.

Tell me which parts of Poland are fun for tourists? I’ll counter with better options.

Wouldn’t be surprised if this is the same bigot as the White German Nationalist.

Um, no.

I’m an American-born Pole living in MoCo with a social justice job in DC.

Sure, lol.

[Anonymous]

Belgrade is considered the best party town in Europe. If you were open minded to let them go have a ton of fun. Food is also great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

I dont know what circles you are in, but no one I know is this way...I guess it depends if you live in the Redneck part of the Balkans or moderate part.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

Croatian president is very much against NATO and EU involvement in Ukraine as well. He didn’t state he is pro Russian though. Also some Serbs are pro and anti Putin. Stop putting the Balkans into one pot!
When it comes to nationalism they are not worse nor better than most countries in the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

Croatian president is very much against NATO and EU involvement in Ukraine as well. He didn’t state he is pro Russian though. Also some Serbs are pro and anti Putin. Stop putting the Balkans into one pot!
When it comes to nationalism they are not worse nor better than most countries in the world.

We wont win--in DCUM land Serbia is put together with flyover country, Trump and Rednecks...Im sure they think we also are anti-choice.

[Anonymous]

Can we get back to discussing travel please? We all know the Balkans are a politically fraught region, but that’s not the point of this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn’t do Serbia now for political reasons, they are too pro putin now. Germany / Poland or combine Slovakia with Czech Republic or Austria. Both Germany and Poland are quite big countries, so the choice really is what specific things they’d like to do / or see. All options are great, but I’d avoid Serbia for now.

You can claim this but absolutely not true, Serbians are not pro Putin, I mean a very small minority--probably the same as the percentage of Americans who are...quite frankly there are so many expats( mostly W.Europeans-as they cant afford living as nicely in their countries) living in Serbia due to the beauty of the nature, the open mentality of the Serbians and the NON judgmental nature of the Serbians that real estate has gone up...my family is there and there are more Ukrainians than Russians who came during the war. And BTW the Ukrainians and Russians there get along because only in DCUM minds is there this huge nationalism gripping Slavs minds and souls....but in general you don't want to be in South Eastern Europe as it is as hot as DC is in the summer-though less humid. I would rather go to Croatia or Slovenia in the summer.

As someone who grew up in the Balkans I completely disagree. They are and always have been very pro Putin. What world do you live in? There are nice people in Serbia of course. But as a matter of National policy they are one of the only European countries openly pro Putin. It wouldn’t prevent me from going, but it’s silly to state that nationalism is not a big issue there. It has been for centires.

I dont know what circles you are in, but no one I know is this way...I guess it depends if you live in the Redneck part of the Balkans or moderate part.

You really aren’t very informed. Just look at Vujcic’s policies. I don’t want to detail this thread, but what you are disputing is on full display. And I’m from a major city not the redneck part as you point out.