Can someone explain how DeSantis ever wins?

[Anonymous]

I dunno if electric stoves are woke or not, but they definitely suck.

No professional chef, nor anyone serious about cooking, would willingly use an electric stove. Not unless they were forced to by law. And that coercion is the problem.

[Anonymous]

It's hard to deny DeSantis won a massive landslide in Florida, a traditional swing state that voted for Obama, and he won every education demographics too. Including the ones that normally go for the Democrats.

I do find him abrasive and combative BUT many of you are forgetting that the Democrats are abrasive and combative too. Wokery and DEI is extremely divisive. How can it not be? Accusations that America is institutionally and systematically racist, only whites can be racist, that the Memphis police were still racist, are all hugely controversial and offensive to many people.

It's just that in the more liberal parts of the country those who disagree find themselves under a great deal of pressure, cultural or political, to censor themselves. DeSantis is a useful outlet to watch to get a sense of what other places are thinking and their views. The conservatives like him because he is, in their view, doing the exact same thing that the progressive Democrats do, using policy and the courts to ram through controversial stances. Tit for tat. And, here's the kicker, the DeSantis supporters do have a point.

As it stands, he has an excellent chance of winning. He is also the only major "name", both Democrat or Republican, who has a net positive opinion ratings in the polls. It should make for an interesting election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's hard to deny DeSantis won a massive landslide in Florida, a traditional swing state that voted for Obama, and he won every education demographics too. Including the ones that normally go for the Democrats.

I do find him abrasive and combative BUT many of you are forgetting that the Democrats are abrasive and combative too. Wokery and DEI is extremely divisive. How can it not be? Accusations that America is institutionally and systematically racist, only whites can be racist, that the Memphis police were still racist, are all hugely controversial and offensive to many people.

It's just that in the more liberal parts of the country those who disagree find themselves under a great deal of pressure, cultural or political, to censor themselves. DeSantis is a useful outlet to watch to get a sense of what other places are thinking and their views. The conservatives like him because he is, in their view, doing the exact same thing that the progressive Democrats do, using policy and the courts to ram through controversial stances. Tit for tat. And, here's the kicker, the DeSantis supporters do have a point.

As it stands, he has an excellent chance of winning. He is also the only major "name", both Democrat or Republican, who has a net positive opinion ratings in the polls. It should make for an interesting election.

Well stated. Especially your third paragraph.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with DeSantis? He's exempting gas stoves from sales tax but NOT electric stoves?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-desantis-likely-presidential-candidate-pushes-ban-on-florida-sales-tax-for-gas-appliances-11675287926

So electric stoves are "woke liberal bullshit" now or something? LOTS of people have electric stoves. Many of us don't have gas hookups, many of us live in apartments where there are only outlets for electric stoves.

This is complete idiocy on his part. He is absolutely deranged with these games he's playing.

Hey - if Kathy Hochul can ban gas stoves in NY, DeSantis can certainly have them sold tax free in FL.
I would say Hochul is the deranged one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with DeSantis? He's exempting gas stoves from sales tax but NOT electric stoves?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-desantis-likely-presidential-candidate-pushes-ban-on-florida-sales-tax-for-gas-appliances-11675287926

So electric stoves are "woke liberal bullshit" now or something? LOTS of people have electric stoves. Many of us don't have gas hookups, many of us live in apartments where there are only outlets for electric stoves.

This is complete idiocy on his part. He is absolutely deranged with these games he's playing.

I’m sure the rich people in Florida will appreciate that tax break. Since we don’t need gas for heat, only the rich have gas hookups for their stoves. The rest of us have electric appliances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with DeSantis? He's exempting gas stoves from sales tax but NOT electric stoves?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-desantis-likely-presidential-candidate-pushes-ban-on-florida-sales-tax-for-gas-appliances-11675287926

So electric stoves are "woke liberal bullshit" now or something? LOTS of people have electric stoves. Many of us don't have gas hookups, many of us live in apartments where there are only outlets for electric stoves.

This is complete idiocy on his part. He is absolutely deranged with these games he's playing.

I’m sure the rich people in Florida will appreciate that tax break. Since we don’t need gas for heat, only the rich have gas hookups for their stoves. The rest of us have electric appliances.

About 40% of homes use gas stoves for cooking. (They aren't all rich) Ironically, the state with the most gas stoves is California.... about 70%.

Then, there are the thousands of businesses that use gas stoves for cooking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with DeSantis? He's exempting gas stoves from sales tax but NOT electric stoves?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-desantis-likely-presidential-candidate-pushes-ban-on-florida-sales-tax-for-gas-appliances-11675287926

So electric stoves are "woke liberal bullshit" now or something? LOTS of people have electric stoves. Many of us don't have gas hookups, many of us live in apartments where there are only outlets for electric stoves.

This is complete idiocy on his part. He is absolutely deranged with these games he's playing.

Hey - if Kathy Hochul can ban gas stoves in NY, DeSantis can certainly have them sold tax free in FL.
I would say Hochul is the deranged one.

Gas is a finite and limited resource. Electricity on the other hand can be generated in any number of ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I dunno if electric stoves are woke or not, but they definitely suck.

No professional chef, nor anyone serious about cooking, would willingly use an electric stove. Not unless they were forced to by law. And that coercion is the problem.

If you need fast heat to prepare many dishes quickly like a chef does, or if you need wok hei or gas char grill sure. But for 99% of ordinary people cooking at home it isn't going to make a damn bit of difference if they use gas or electric. And a huge number of homes aren't even (and in many cases can't be) properly ventilated for a gas stove, let alone have the hookup for gas. It wouldn't be worth the tax savings to switch from electric to gas if you have to have a gas line installed.

DeSantis's move is just plain dumb. What next, give people tax breaks for going to coal heat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:WTF is wrong with DeSantis? He's exempting gas stoves from sales tax but NOT electric stoves?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ron-desantis-likely-presidential-candidate-pushes-ban-on-florida-sales-tax-for-gas-appliances-11675287926

So electric stoves are "woke liberal bullshit" now or something? LOTS of people have electric stoves. Many of us don't have gas hookups, many of us live in apartments where there are only outlets for electric stoves.

This is complete idiocy on his part. He is absolutely deranged with these games he's playing.

Hey - if Kathy Hochul can ban gas stoves in NY, DeSantis can certainly have them sold tax free in FL.
I would say Hochul is the deranged one.

Gas is a finite and limited resource. Electricity on the other hand can be generated in any number of ways.

...such as nuclear energy, which Florida enjoys and crazies like you in NY and CA have been shutting down

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DEI is less popular with Hispanics and Asians than you think.

+1
I can't even believe this has to be explained. Many blacks are sick of it too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let the GOP run DeSantis nationally. He's a charmless man and wooden speaker who will crash and burn on the national stage.

It is pretty awful to have to listen to him speak.

But not nearly as awful as listening to Biden speak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let the GOP run DeSantis nationally. He's a charmless man and wooden speaker who will crash and burn on the national stage.

LOL

Sure. He will win easily against Biden if he is the nominee.
A former military officer, member of the House, and current governor up against a doddering lying old fool? It won’t even be a contest.

The debate between DeSantis and Biden would be something to watch.
That is, if Biden would agree to a debate.

The majority of the country does not live in the RW bubble that you live in.

No, they live in a LW bubble. Like you, for instance. The PP is correct.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Voter suppression is a thing in Florida.

No, it's actually not. Nice try though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He can't and won't win.

First of all, he has zero charisma. None. He is flat and comes across as stupid when he speaks.

Secondly, there are not enough Cubans nationwide to swing the vote toward the man because "democrats. socialism."

Finally, his culture war issues will not play on a national stage. Very limited to Florida and MAGA types, who sorry, are the minority. Electoral college or not.

He is dead in the water rotten fish.

Not sure about that, it actually worked for him in Florida, many people in the center voted for him last year.

And the press is giving him a ton of free coverage...

My guess is very few centrists voted for him. The press coverage is fine, because there will be no surprises about what he truly is when the primaries roll around.

He is Trump without the cult of personality and likely won't even win the Republican primary if DJT is even still remotely mobile and cogent. And even if the Trump wave among primary voters has permanently ebbed, Desantis is DOA when people are reminded of his anti-woke initiatives that just look shoddy and hateful.

DP. I think you're in for a very rude awakening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really started paying attention to DeSantis when he basically got everything right during the pandemic.

Ever since then, I haven't seen him do anything I disagree with. If he gets the nomination, I'm 100% going to vote for him.

Agreed. He has common sense and does not let the left intimidate him with their nonsense. And I actually do find him to be telegenic - not that it matters, but Democrats seem fixated on appearance, so...