What is the future of heterosexual dating when the number of men attending college continues to drop

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a huge issue. Not just because of the college but the lack of manners towards women and the lack of work ethic. Peter Pan syndrome all over.

So many men all over the internet. I’m not sure if I want to have kids or feel comfortable with them. I simply don’t understand this comment. You were a kid. People have kids all over the world. It’s a projection of something else

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Meant that a lot of men on the internet say they aren't sure if they want to have kids. And they are 35 plus at this time saying this. I don't understand their angst. They were children once. People have children all over the world without the means we have in America. It just seems strange this would be such a source of anxiety for them.

Not everyone wants a 24 hour a day job

Well the women here are up for it. What are your actual plans with your time? Your cheating behavior. Not impressive. You low paying job. Not impressive. Your vulgar behavior? Not impressive. Your addictions? Not impressive. If you don't want to reproduce your genes will die. If you marry internationally eventually that child will likely move away.

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Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Agreed most women will identify as gay and everything will be fine.

Are people really so oblivious to how being gay works that they think this is it? This is some 1990's "choose to be gay" BS.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

The most accurate post so far. Thank you.

yeah big law partners regularly work with 7-11 managers. Obviously they work with people who have money to pay them. Not to mention that they are probably much older and the jobs they have now millennials and Gen Z need a college degree to even start in the field.

7-11 workers can’t pay the fees to lawyers so I’d disagree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Humans are generally pretty realistic about calculating where they will need to settle to find a mate. It will work itself out.

The nonsense about polygamy or a subset of men dating all the women is of course nonsense. The vast majority of people want normal traditional relationships and male educational attainment certainly isn’t enough to shake that.

It’s not at all nonsense – it’s very well-documented that this is what’s happening right now, not even at some point in the future, with online dating.

Because women generally have unreasonable dating standards (the college degree example in this thread being one of them), they only swipe right on the top 10-20% of men. So you have something approaching 100% of eligible women contacting 10-20% of all eligible men and ignoring the other 80-90%. This is a bonanza for the top-tier men and gives them no incentive to stick to only one woman. Hence all the complaints from women about the dating pool being only comprised of losers and players.

Women are essentially shooting themselves in the foot by clinging to such unreasonable standards.

Weird post. Are you saying that college is where people learn to treat women well? People that don’t go to college meet lots of women, also and with the number of assaults on college campuses, I wouldn’t hold college to any high standard in the respect hierarchy.

They are not unreasonable standards. The college eductated is more than just the degree. It means men have socialized with women in a way that they show some respect. One of the reasons co-ed schools came about was so that men and women could learn to get along with each other better and it also enabled higher marriage rates. Often it means they can work with women respectfully in a workplace. Unfortunately, many men took the red pill advice to look down not just on women but feminine virtues with capitalism supporting this notion and the lack of religion in the country supporting getting rid of feminine virtues and now they have nothing in common and no interest in accommodating women. So many men you hear these days saying something to the sort of "what would a woman bring to my life as a wife? What does she bring to the table for me?" They are hooked on this idea that they should have ultimate freedom their whole lives and this person they are with should be like a prize for them. Nothing about children. They are intrinsically disordered against family. Not interested in the pursuit because other women are available for sex. Before men had less availability for sex and so they felt they achieved power through their jobs and their families and were tempered by both of these with bosses and societal expectations. There are very low expectations in society and so all these men just want to play around and not really do anything useful for future generations.

Yes, statistics say that males who are not college educated have very narrow views of women and many of them negative. Whenever you attend school or attend a workplace with women or are married to a woman, you will learn better skills to work with the opposite sex.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

The most accurate post so far. Thank you.

yeah big law partners regularly work with 7-11 managers. Obviously they work with people who have money to pay them. Not to mention that they are probably much older and the jobs they have now millennials and Gen Z need a college degree to even start in the field.

7-11 workers can’t pay the fees to lawyers so I’d disagree with you.

You are missing the point. Someone mentioned that they were big law and saw lots of people who didn't have degrees with more money than him. It's a selected group of people who can afford big law. Not an accurate representation of society.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Many American men are now going overseas to find wives and girlfriends. My first wife was from another country, and my next wife will also be from overseas. I've found that educated, attractive, feminine women live in other countries, and they are much less entitled, and have better morals than American women.

About me: PhD, 6'4", work out daily, good income.

Then once she gets her citizenship, she will dump you because she doesn't actually love you. "I got my wife from overseas" literally reads like a mail order bride. If you find someone and you two fall in love that's one thing but what you've written here screams some sort of weird cultural fetishization. I know some men get Asian or Russian wives like this. It's pretty rare and these women don't love you and rarely stay with you after they become citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a huge issue. Not just because of the college but the lack of manners towards women and the lack of work ethic. Peter Pan syndrome all over.

So many men all over the internet. I’m not sure if I want to have kids or feel comfortable with them. I simply don’t understand this comment. You were a kid. People have kids all over the world. It’s a projection of something else

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Meant that a lot of men on the internet say they aren't sure if they want to have kids. And they are 35 plus at this time saying this. I don't understand their angst. They were children once. People have children all over the world without the means we have in America. It just seems strange this would be such a source of anxiety for them.

Not everyone wants a 24 hour a day job

Well the women here are up for it. What are your actual plans with your time? Your cheating behavior. Not impressive. You low paying job. Not impressive. Your vulgar behavior? Not impressive. Your addictions? Not impressive. If you don't want to reproduce your genes will die. If you marry internationally eventually that child will likely move away.

This is just a wildly narrow view of how you are starting how you feel is the way others should feel. I was responding to the fact that not everyone wants a 24 hour a day job like raising kids. If the women you know do, that’s fine, but do you not understand that not everyone feels that way?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

The most accurate post so far. Thank you.

yeah big law partners regularly work with 7-11 managers. Obviously they work with people who have money to pay them. Not to mention that they are probably much older and the jobs they have now millennials and Gen Z need a college degree to even start in the field.

7-11 workers can’t pay the fees to lawyers so I’d disagree with you.

You are missing the point. Someone mentioned that they were big law and saw lots of people who didn't have degrees with more money than him. It's a selected group of people who can afford big law. Not an accurate representation of society.

There is a huge difference between an uneducated college guy with his own business and a 7-11 worker

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Agreed most women will identify as gay and everything will be fine.

Are people really so oblivious to how being gay works that they think this is it? This is some 1990's "choose to be gay" BS.

DP. Many, many gay people have chosen to be in hetero relationships because it was more socially acceptable. Do you think that could not happen in reverse? If the alternative is going through life with a partner?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I cannot begin to tell you how much licensed electricians and plumbers can make.
And really good Irish carpenters. The brogue, the finesse of their work and an old fashioned sense of what it is to be masculine. Most of these millworkes end up being general contractors and I can tell you the good and savvy ones make a very good living.
I am an architect in a high end firm and really, some of these guys are good catches. Just because one didn't go to college doesn't mean that person isn't smart.
These guys get right on task and deal too. No BS excuse about "opportunity cost" for why they are dragging their feet on marital responsibilities.

Where can I find these Irish carpenters of whom you speak?

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Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Agreed most women will identify as gay and everything will be fine.

Are people really so oblivious to how being gay works that they think this is it? This is some 1990's "choose to be gay" BS.

DP. Many, many gay people have chosen to be in hetero relationships because it was more socially acceptable. Do you think that could not happen in reverse? If the alternative is going through life with a partner?

I actually don't think that will happen. I think it's more likely straight women with degrees will marry men without college degrees. Are you straight? If so, would you want to marry another woman and have sex with her even though you're not aroused by her or turned on by her body?

[Anonymous]

College dating is not a big thing anymore. It’s all situationships now. No one thinks they’re finding their spouse in college and the ones who do want to wait years after college to experience adult life before they get engaged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Agreed most women will identify as gay and everything will be fine.

Are people really so oblivious to how being gay works that they think this is it? This is some 1990's "choose to be gay" BS.

DP. Many, many gay people have chosen to be in hetero relationships because it was more socially acceptable. Do you think that could not happen in reverse? If the alternative is going through life with a partner?

I actually don't think that will happen. I think it's more likely straight women with degrees will marry men without college degrees. Are you straight? If so, would you want to marry another woman and have sex with her even though you're not aroused by her or turned on by her body?

People marry people for plenty of reasons besides sex. Even in straight marriages both parties aren’t always attracted to one another. Check out the boards here on DCUM. shrug

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Anonymous wrote:College dating is not a big thing anymore. It’s all situationships now. No one thinks they’re finding their spouse in college and the ones who do want to wait years after college to experience adult life before they get engaged.

Because there is too much promiscuity. That's the reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Agreed most women will identify as gay and everything will be fine.

Are people really so oblivious to how being gay works that they think this is it? This is some 1990's "choose to be gay" BS.

DP. Many, many gay people have chosen to be in hetero relationships because it was more socially acceptable. Do you think that could not happen in reverse? If the alternative is going through life with a partner?

I actually don't think that will happen. I think it's more likely straight women with degrees will marry men without college degrees. Are you straight? If so, would you want to marry another woman and have sex with her even though you're not aroused by her or turned on by her body?

People marry people for plenty of reasons besides sex. Even in straight marriages both parties aren’t always attracted to one another. Check out the boards here on DCUM. shrug

So you would marry another woman you're not attracted to?