What is the future of heterosexual dating when the number of men attending college continues to drop

[Anonymous]

It would depend on the college. Some colleges intentionally balance. Their goal is to have an about equal male equal female ratio.

However, it is my understanding that the university of California schools are gender blind when it comes to admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Humans are generally pretty realistic about calculating where they will need to settle to find a mate. It will work itself out.

The nonsense about polygamy or a subset of men dating all the women is of course nonsense. The vast majority of people want normal traditional relationships and male educational attainment certainly isn’t enough to shake that.

It’s not at all nonsense – it’s very well-documented that this is what’s happening right now, not even at some point in the future, with online dating.

Because women generally have unreasonable dating standards (the college degree example in this thread being one of them), they only swipe right on the top 10-20% of men. So you have something approaching 100% of eligible women contacting 10-20% of all eligible men and ignoring the other 80-90%. This is a bonanza for the top-tier men and gives them no incentive to stick to only one woman. Hence all the complaints from women about the dating pool being only comprised of losers and players.

Women are essentially shooting themselves in the foot by clinging to such unreasonable standards.

They are not unreasonable standards. The college eductated is more than just the degree. It means men have socialized with women in a way that they show some respect. One of the reasons co-ed schools came about was so that men and women could learn to get along with each other better and it also enabled higher marriage rates. Often it means they can work with women respectfully in a workplace. Unfortunately, many men took the red pill advice to look down not just on women but feminine virtues with capitalism supporting this notion and the lack of religion in the country supporting getting rid of feminine virtues and now they have nothing in common and no interest in accommodating women. So many men you hear these days saying something to the sort of "what would a woman bring to my life as a wife? What does she bring to the table for me?" They are hooked on this idea that they should have ultimate freedom their whole lives and this person they are with should be like a prize for them. Nothing about children. They are intrinsically disordered against family. Not interested in the pursuit because other women are available for sex. Before men had less availability for sex and so they felt they achieved power through their jobs and their families and were tempered by both of these with bosses and societal expectations. There are very low expectations in society and so all these men just want to play around and not really do anything useful for future generations.

[Anonymous]

It's weird that while female's role in America is expanding to not only include work at home but also in the workplace and military and even blue collar jobs, the role of men is becoming limiting. Now being a sociologist is too feminine of a career, etc. They are putting themselves into a very small box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Many American men are now going overseas to find wives and girlfriends. My first wife was from another country, and my next wife will also be from overseas. I've found that educated, attractive, feminine women live in other countries, and they are much less entitled, and have better morals than American women.

About me: PhD, 6'4", work out daily, good income.

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Many American men are now going overseas to find wives and girlfriends. My first wife was from another country, and my next wife will also be from overseas. I've found that educated, attractive, feminine women live in other countries, and they are much less entitled, and have better morals than American women.

About me: PhD, 6'4", work out daily, good income.

Yeah, you sound like a prize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

The most accurate post so far. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:1. Only 30% graduated from college at the height so this still only affects a small number.

2. not everybody needs to or want to get married, that’s new so this may take care of itself.

3. If men can step it up at home women can work men can stay home.

4. Many women will just have kids without men which is what they ever wanted in the 1st place.

Many American men are now going overseas to find wives and girlfriends. My first wife was from another country, and my next wife will also be from overseas. I've found that educated, attractive, feminine women live in other countries, and they are much less entitled, and have better morals than American women.

About me: PhD, 6'4", work out daily, good income.

Many American women think overseas men have more morals than American men. Maybe look in the mirror.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you have to date a college educated male? College education doesn’t equate to intelligence or success.

plus a million. I didn’t do any college and make more than every one of my friends with multiple degrees.

And you don’t know what you know. That arrogance is not going to be a cultural fit for a college-educated person.

It’s not arrogance, but it’s stating a fact that degrees don’t mean anything in today’s world. You have people with degrees working at Starbucks.

Sorry you couldn’t afford or couldn’t manage to graduate.

Well, I didn’t want to go to college so you don’t have to be sorry about it, but thank you. Enjoy your college debt.

Enjoy being proud and ignorant.

Proud and ignorant? Hmm, so it your narrow minded view of the world, it’s arrogant to say that I can be proud of my choices on a thread that is questioning that very choice. I hope you don’t parent that way.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a biglaw partner so I have all the fancy education. Many of my clients have no formal education (think car dealership owners, general contractors, etc.). They make a ton more than me, they are obviously very smart to have this level of success. And they have no problem dating.

I get that all else being equal women want the education as well but also, all else being equal, women will marry the rich man who owns 15 car dealerships over the poor man with a degree in sociology making 50k a year.

The most accurate post so far. Thank you.

yeah big law partners regularly work with 7-11 managers. Obviously they work with people who have money to pay them. Not to mention that they are probably much older and the jobs they have now millennials and Gen Z need a college degree to even start in the field.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s a huge issue. Not just because of the college but the lack of manners towards women and the lack of work ethic. Peter Pan syndrome all over.

So many men all over the internet. I’m not sure if I want to have kids or feel comfortable with them. I simply don’t understand this comment. You were a kid. People have kids all over the world. It’s a projection of something else

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Meant that a lot of men on the internet say they aren't sure if they want to have kids. And they are 35 plus at this time saying this. I don't understand their angst. They were children once. People have children all over the world without the means we have in America. It just seems strange this would be such a source of anxiety for them.

Not everyone wants a 24 hour a day job

[Anonymous]

And what is with America first men who marry overseas? And want multiple wives as well? It's like they are just following Trump's lead which never made sense. His mom wasn't an American citizen and half his wives weren't either. It's like some made up land he wants Amerca to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot begin to tell you how much licensed electricians and plumbers can make.
And really good Irish carpenters. The brogue, the finesse of their work and an old fashioned sense of what it is to be masculine. Most of these millworkes end up being general contractors and I can tell you the good and savvy ones make a very good living.
I am an architect in a high end firm and really, some of these guys are good catches. Just because one didn't go to college doesn't mean that person isn't smart.
These guys get right on task and deal too. No BS excuse about "opportunity cost" for why they are dragging their feet on marital responsibilities.

Most men cannot be successful plumbers, electricians, or carpenters. My husband didn't even know what a Philips head screwdriver was in his 30s. He can't paint or do anything with tools.

The ones who don’t know their way around a toolbox are usually the ones with degrees in my experience. It’s pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's weird that while female's role in America is expanding to not only include work at home but also in the workplace and military and even blue collar jobs, the role of men is becoming limiting. Now being a sociologist is too feminine of a career, etc.

They

are putting themselves into a very small box.

Who is they? Do you put them in a very small box?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Judging from other threads, like today, many of the women in college won't be heterosexual. So maybe it will all balance out.

Agreed most women will identify as gay and everything will be fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Humans are generally pretty realistic about calculating where they will need to settle to find a mate. It will work itself out.

The nonsense about polygamy or a subset of men dating all the women is of course nonsense. The vast majority of people want normal traditional relationships and male educational attainment certainly isn’t enough to shake that.

It’s not at all nonsense – it’s very well-documented that this is what’s happening right now, not even at some point in the future, with online dating.

Because women generally have unreasonable dating standards (the college degree example in this thread being one of them), they only swipe right on the top 10-20% of men. So you have something approaching 100% of eligible women contacting 10-20% of all eligible men and ignoring the other 80-90%. This is a bonanza for the top-tier men and gives them no incentive to stick to only one woman. Hence all the complaints from women about the dating pool being only comprised of losers and players.

Women are essentially shooting themselves in the foot by clinging to such unreasonable standards.

Weird post. Are you saying that college is where people learn to treat women well? People that don’t go to college meet lots of women, also and with the number of assaults on college campuses, I wouldn’t hold college to any high standard in the respect hierarchy.

They are not unreasonable standards. The college eductated is more than just the degree. It means men have socialized with women in a way that they show some respect. One of the reasons co-ed schools came about was so that men and women could learn to get along with each other better and it also enabled higher marriage rates. Often it means they can work with women respectfully in a workplace. Unfortunately, many men took the red pill advice to look down not just on women but feminine virtues with capitalism supporting this notion and the lack of religion in the country supporting getting rid of feminine virtues and now they have nothing in common and no interest in accommodating women. So many men you hear these days saying something to the sort of "what would a woman bring to my life as a wife? What does she bring to the table for me?" They are hooked on this idea that they should have ultimate freedom their whole lives and this person they are with should be like a prize for them. Nothing about children. They are intrinsically disordered against family. Not interested in the pursuit because other women are available for sex. Before men had less availability for sex and so they felt they achieved power through their jobs and their families and were tempered by both of these with bosses and societal expectations. There are very low expectations in society and so all these men just want to play around and not really do anything useful for future generations.