Second overdose at Kennedy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another overdose at John F. Kennedy high school. https://mocoshow.com/blog/police-and-rescue-respond-to-student-overdose-at-kennedy-high-school/?fbclid=IwAR2QKr4keXjIe_DgN-WseNEkD4P32F_nFDFHyx4WE1k-RiOQeze2t1W7CkY&fs=e&s=cl

I wonder if these people are getting their pills from the same source, or if there is a connection.

The amount of lockdowns and overdoses this year are alarming. Just this week there have been guns, overdoses at BCC and Kennedy, knives.

If an SRO were in the school, they'd have a better shot at figuring out a supplier.

Omg they aren’t DEA

But they have a pulse on the community and know what's going on with the kids in the school and the surrounding neighborhoods. Whether you like it or not, the SROs were viewed by majority of students and staff as a valuable resource in the community.

No they don’t.

[Anonymous]

Are kids taking drugs or are they mistakenly touching drugs and getting poisoned by fentenyl?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are kids taking drugs or are they mistakenly touching drugs and getting poisoned by fentenyl?

They are ordering pills off the internet and it’s laced with Fentanyl

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are kids taking drugs or are they mistakenly touching drugs and getting poisoned by fentenyl?

That is not a thing. That is a myth.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlines/can-fentanyl-be-absorbed-through-your-skin/2022/10

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are kids taking drugs or are they mistakenly touching drugs and getting poisoned by fentenyl?

That is not a thing. That is a myth.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlines/can-fentanyl-be-absorbed-through-your-skin/2022/10

Also addressed in the MoCo training, which everyone here should take:

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/opioids/save-a-life.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another overdose at John F. Kennedy high school. https://mocoshow.com/blog/police-and-rescue-respond-to-student-overdose-at-kennedy-high-school/?fbclid=IwAR2QKr4keXjIe_DgN-WseNEkD4P32F_nFDFHyx4WE1k-RiOQeze2t1W7CkY&fs=e&s=cl

I wonder if these people are getting their pills from the same source, or if there is a connection.

The amount of lockdowns and overdoses this year are alarming. Just this week there have been guns, overdoses at BCC and Kennedy, knives.

If an SRO were in the school, they'd have a better shot at figuring out a supplier.

Omg they aren’t DEA

But they have a pulse on the community and know what's going on with the kids in the school and the surrounding neighborhoods. Whether you like it or not, the SROs were viewed by majority of students and staff as a valuable resource in the community.

No they don’t.

Yes they do. Do your research.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not public yet, but rumors are circulating at the school that this student also died at the hospital.

That would make for two deaths at Kennedy.

Is this it will take for Kennedy admin and MCPS to crack down on security? It’s sad it took loss of life for this to be paid attention to seriously.

That’s tragic, and hopefully not true.

mCPS, the school and busy mostly also parents need to step up and crack down on their own kids. This is not just a failing for the school, but it’s a failing at home with the parents as well.

I recognize that we all parent differently, and one way is not the best or the only. But I think at some point parents need to go into their kids rooms and look through bags, drawers, and have very hard and open conversations with the kids about drug usage.

It's not just kids. Laced drugs are everywhere, all neighborhoods, all ages, all SEC.

Open borders has already supplied enough fentanyl to kill every single American. We ain’t seen nothing yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not public yet, but rumors are circulating at the school that this student also died at the hospital.

That would make for two deaths at Kennedy.

Is this it will take for Kennedy admin and MCPS to crack down on security? It’s sad it took loss of life for this to be paid attention to seriously.

That’s tragic, and hopefully not true.

mCPS, the school and busy mostly also parents need to step up and crack down on their own kids. This is not just a failing for the school, but it’s a failing at home with the parents as well.

I recognize that we all parent differently, and one way is not the best or the only. But I think at some point parents need to go into their kids rooms and look through bags, drawers, and have very hard and open conversations with the kids about drug usage.

I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

Bad kids… do you mean kids with behavior issues, or mental health challenges like anxiety, or kids without parents paying attention??? Because these are all types of kids who engage in drugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not public yet, but rumors are circulating at the school that this student also died at the hospital.

That would make for two deaths at Kennedy.

Is this it will take for Kennedy admin and MCPS to crack down on security? It’s sad it took loss of life for this to be paid attention to seriously.

That’s tragic, and hopefully not true.

mCPS, the school and busy mostly also parents need to step up and crack down on their own kids. This is not just a failing for the school, but it’s a failing at home with the parents as well.

I recognize that we all parent differently, and one way is not the best or the only. But I think at some point parents need to go into their kids rooms and look through bags, drawers, and have very hard and open conversations with the kids about drug usage.

I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

Bad kids… do you mean kids with behavior issues, or mental health challenges like anxiety, or kids without parents paying attention??? Because these are all types of kids who engage in drugs.

Violent kids who hit, bite and beat others on a regular basis. School MUST be safe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is really dangerous to believe that only “bad” kids are using drugs or even distributing them in school. The data is clear that the fentanyl crisis hits all economic statuses equally. The problem I have been seeing is that we are in an era where everything is someone’s fault. We sue for the most ridiculous reasons. Now, we want yo expect high school teachers to be allowed (and I really don’t think they should be) to sit inside of the bathroom and watch the students? That would inane in elementary school, none the less high school. Quite frankly, kids know that there is a level of privacy in bathrooms because teachers can not simply enter and there are no cameras.

By 14, all children should understand the risks of drugs. They should know what an overdose looks like and they should be very knowledgeable about the different types of drugs and what could happen. Finally, every single child will have had the experience of peer pressure in some way. Again, as a parent, you talk about this a lot. If, even with that level of instruction and consistent communication, the child ends up taking a pill that someone gave them, it is still your child’s fault. By 14, it is ridiculous to believe and stupid to want for the adults to manage every student conversation anc interaction that occurs in the hallways between classes.

We need to stop letting our kids off with believing someone else has the responsibility to keep them from ever making a poor choice and/or take the responsibility and put it on someone else. Maybe we should all remember how much time we had to practice our social skills and try out different versions of ourselves. Remember how we would bicker and then figure it out? Remember when we “little failed” and our parents didn’t bail us out? I certainly don’t want to go back in time, we have made a lot of social progress, but if we don’t start letting our kids deal with the little fails, a bad grade, getting in trouble from a teacher, forgetting their homework, then I have no idea how these kids are going to handle the big stuff. High school is the big stuff, elementary and middle provide thousands of opportunities to mess up, a little, and it will never matter, as long as the child is permitted to feel the big yucky feelings of messing up and figuring out how to fix it.

Your logic has swiss cheese-sized holes in it.

You literally talk about kids "little failing" but overdosing on drugs and DYING is not "little failing." Your point about letting them get a bad grade, get in trouble with a teacher or forget their homework is valid.

But we should just stand by and watch kids overdose on drugs and die so they can learn their lesson? How does your moral compass make sense of that?

I'm also questioning if you actually have teenage kids if you believe 14 year olds, and teenagers in general, are capable of always being rational and doing what they should do. There's a reason for the phrase "young and dumb." Most teens know better but don't do the right for a variety of reasons. Knowledge of the right then isn't the issue. It's application of that knowledge in real time under high-pressure circumstances that teenagers struggle with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another overdose at John F. Kennedy high school. https://mocoshow.com/blog/police-and-rescue-respond-to-student-overdose-at-kennedy-high-school/?fbclid=IwAR2QKr4keXjIe_DgN-WseNEkD4P32F_nFDFHyx4WE1k-RiOQeze2t1W7CkY&fs=e&s=cl

I wonder if these people are getting their pills from the same source, or if there is a connection.

The amount of lockdowns and overdoses this year are alarming. Just this week there have been guns, overdoses at BCC and Kennedy, knives.

If an SRO were in the school, they'd have a better shot at figuring out a supplier.

Omg they aren’t DEA

But they have a pulse on the community and know what's going on with the kids in the school and the surrounding neighborhoods. Whether you like it or not, the SROs were viewed by majority of students and staff as a valuable resource in the community.

No they don’t.

Yes they do. Do your research.

No they don’t. Do YOUR research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is really dangerous to believe that only “bad” kids are using drugs or even distributing them in school. The data is clear that the fentanyl crisis hits all economic statuses equally. The problem I have been seeing is that we are in an era where everything is someone’s fault. We sue for the most ridiculous reasons. Now, we want yo expect high school teachers to be allowed (and I really don’t think they should be) to sit inside of the bathroom and watch the students? That would inane in elementary school, none the less high school. Quite frankly, kids know that there is a level of privacy in bathrooms because teachers can not simply enter and there are no cameras.

By 14, all children should understand the risks of drugs. They should know what an overdose looks like and they should be very knowledgeable about the different types of drugs and what could happen. Finally, every single child will have had the experience of peer pressure in some way. Again, as a parent, you talk about this a lot. If, even with that level of instruction and consistent communication, the child ends up taking a pill that someone gave them, it is still your child’s fault. By 14, it is ridiculous to believe and stupid to want for the adults to manage every student conversation anc interaction that occurs in the hallways between classes.

We need to stop letting our kids off with believing someone else has the responsibility to keep them from ever making a poor choice and/or take the responsibility and put it on someone else. Maybe we should all remember how much time we had to practice our social skills and try out different versions of ourselves. Remember how we would bicker and then figure it out? Remember when we “little failed” and our parents didn’t bail us out? I certainly don’t want to go back in time, we have made a lot of social progress, but if we don’t start letting our kids deal with the little fails, a bad grade, getting in trouble from a teacher, forgetting their homework, then I have no idea how these kids are going to handle the big stuff. High school is the big stuff, elementary and middle provide thousands of opportunities to mess up, a little, and it will never matter, as long as the child is permitted to feel the big yucky feelings of messing up and figuring out how to fix it.

Your logic has swiss cheese-sized holes in it.

You literally talk about kids "little failing" but overdosing on drugs and DYING is not "little failing." Your point about letting them get a bad grade, get in trouble with a teacher or forget their homework is valid.

But we should just stand by and watch kids overdose on drugs and die so they can learn their lesson? How does your moral compass make sense of that?

I'm also questioning if you actually have teenage kids if you believe 14 year olds, and teenagers in general, are capable of always being rational and doing what they should do. There's a reason for the phrase "young and dumb." Most teens know better but don't do the right for a variety of reasons. Knowledge of the right then isn't the issue. It's application of that knowledge in real time under high-pressure circumstances that teenagers struggle with.

You really misread the “little fail” portion of her post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

Seriously? And you think that school ratings and drug usage are linked? They are not.

BCC girls found passed out in the bathroom.

https://wtop.com/local/2023/01/two-students-found-passed-out-in-high-school-bathroom/

BCC is rated higher. This has nothing to do with low income and ratings

BCC is not a W school

Can we just agree that drug use is not an issue unique to schools with either high or low FARMS rates and instead focus on what appears to be a pretty shocking uptick in kids dying from drug use at school?

I suspect there is a multi-pronged response needed, including but not limited to hard reduction measures such as educating kids about fentanyl and allowing students to carry Narcan. What else?

Staff should administer Narcan not minors.

I don't know, I'm on Team The First Available Person Who Can Administer Narcan Should Do So. Speaking of which: https://mocoshow.com/blog/family-forum-on-fentanyl-life-saving-narcan-training-at-clarksburg-high-school/

100%. My husband and I went to the Montgomery County health department's Zoom Narcan training last night, and I recommend it to everyone here. It was free and they will mail Narcan to your house for free once you complete it.

There were quite a few parent/child pairs on the Zoom. One of the kids shared that a friend of his had died of a fentanyl overdose administered via vape.

Find and sign up for a training here:
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/opioids/save-a-life.html

Thank you for posting this.

[Anonymous]

Poisoning by fentanyl is skyrocketing. You don’t even have to touch it to die from it. There’s never been anything like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is really dangerous to believe that only “bad” kids are using drugs or even distributing them in school. The data is clear that the fentanyl crisis hits all economic statuses equally. The problem I have been seeing is that we are in an era where everything is someone’s fault. We sue for the most ridiculous reasons. Now, we want yo expect high school teachers to be allowed (and I really don’t think they should be) to sit inside of the bathroom and watch the students? That would inane in elementary school, none the less high school. Quite frankly, kids know that there is a level of privacy in bathrooms because teachers can not simply enter and there are no cameras.

By 14, all children should understand the risks of drugs. They should know what an overdose looks like and they should be very knowledgeable about the different types of drugs and what could happen. Finally, every single child will have had the experience of peer pressure in some way. Again, as a parent, you talk about this a lot. If, even with that level of instruction and consistent communication, the child ends up taking a pill that someone gave them, it is still your child’s fault. By 14, it is ridiculous to believe and stupid to want for the adults to manage every student conversation anc interaction that occurs in the hallways between classes.

We need to stop letting our kids off with believing someone else has the responsibility to keep them from ever making a poor choice and/or take the responsibility and put it on someone else. Maybe we should all remember how much time we had to practice our social skills and try out different versions of ourselves. Remember how we would bicker and then figure it out? Remember when we “little failed” and our parents didn’t bail us out? I certainly don’t want to go back in time, we have made a lot of social progress, but if we don’t start letting our kids deal with the little fails, a bad grade, getting in trouble from a teacher, forgetting their homework, then I have no idea how these kids are going to handle the big stuff. High school is the big stuff, elementary and middle provide thousands of opportunities to mess up, a little, and it will never matter, as long as the child is permitted to feel the big yucky feelings of messing up and figuring out how to fix it.

Your logic has swiss cheese-sized holes in it.

You literally talk about kids "little failing" but overdosing on drugs and DYING is not "little failing." Your point about letting them get a bad grade, get in trouble with a teacher or forget their homework is valid.

But we should just stand by and watch kids overdose on drugs and die so they can learn their lesson? How does your moral compass make sense of that?

I'm also questioning if you actually have teenage kids if you believe 14 year olds, and teenagers in general, are capable of always being rational and doing what they should do. There's a reason for the phrase "young and dumb." Most teens know better but don't do the right for a variety of reasons. Knowledge of the right then isn't the issue. It's application of that knowledge in real time under high-pressure circumstances that teenagers struggle with.

You really misread the “little fail” portion of her post.

No I didn't.

By 14, all children should understand the risks of drugs. They should know what an overdose looks like and they should be very knowledgeable about the different types of drugs and what could happen. Finally, every single child will have had the experience of peer pressure in some way. Again, as a parent, you talk about this a lot. If, even with that level of instruction and consistent communication, the child ends up taking a pill that someone gave them, it is still your child’s fault. By 14, it is ridiculous to believe and stupid to want for the adults to manage every student conversation anc interaction that occurs in the hallways between classes.

She said if your kid takes a drug and anything happens to them, they deserve it because it's their fault. How else do you want us to read it?