Second overdose at Kennedy

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

What does Walter Johnson and bcc rate? How about Whitman? Do you think they have drug issues there?

2 W students have overdosed since 2020 that I personally know about so yes it’s at W schools.

One died in Jan of last year: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/04/23/after-whitman-students-fentanyl-overdose-family-hopes-awareness-will-prevent-similar-tragedy/

I also know 3 private school OD’s

How many OD’d at school?

[Anonymous]

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I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

The overdose happened at school because they were using drugs at school. You are making assumptions after that about things you would not be in a position to know.

These kids are active drug users. They don't just use at school and you are part of the problem. When your kid comes home drunk or high, its not MCPS's problem, its yours to get them help.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

The overdose happened at school because they were using drugs at school. You are making assumptions after that about things you would not be in a position to know.

These kids are active drug users. They don't just use at school and you are part of the problem. When your kid comes home drunk or high, it’s not MCPS's problem, it’s yours to get them help.

Again, you are stating as fact things that you do not and cannot possibly know.

Beyond that and regardless, a school environment where kids can use drugs and overdose is not a safe school environment and that’s on MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

This happens in all schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

The overdose happened at school because they were using drugs at school. You are making assumptions after that about things you would not be in a position to know.

These kids are active drug users. They don't just use at school and you are part of the problem. When your kid comes home drunk or high, its not MCPS's problem, its yours to get them help.

Yes, MCPS is not responsible for drug use at home. No one has asserted that. Why do you keep deviating from the point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

This happens in all schools.

ratio, it is important

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

What does Walter Johnson and bcc rate? How about Whitman? Do you think they have drug issues there?

2 W students have overdosed since 2020 that I personally know about so yes it’s at W schools.

One died in Jan of last year: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/04/23/after-whitman-students-fentanyl-overdose-family-hopes-awareness-will-prevent-similar-tragedy/

I also know 3 private school OD’s

How many OD’d at school?

You want the #’s sent to the hospital or just the ones that die?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

What does Walter Johnson and bcc rate? How about Whitman? Do you think they have drug issues there?

2 W students have overdosed since 2020 that I personally know about so yes it’s at W schools.

One died in Jan of last year: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/04/23/after-whitman-students-fentanyl-overdose-family-hopes-awareness-will-prevent-similar-tragedy/

I also know 3 private school OD’s

How many OD’d at school?

You want the #’s sent to the hospital or just the ones that die?

I think the question is if these examples of kids from private schools overdosing is an important datapoint for sake of comparison, how many overdosed on school premises as what happened to this poor child (my heart goes out to her and her family).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

The common denominator in many of the MCPS school safety incidents are bathrooms. Maybe they could start there.

[Anonymous]

Way back, I attended an UMC HS in another suburban area.

Prior to all of these energy drinks, teens getting Starbucks, really good students from really good households would buy what they thought/was called "speed" from other students in school they only knew from a friend of a friend of a friend. Cheap and accessible. Thankfully at HS died or OD'd, but who knew what those pills were ?? Parent/family education has to start in the household. Very frightening, no matter what school or what SES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

What does Walter Johnson and bcc rate? How about Whitman? Do you think they have drug issues there?

2 W students have overdosed since 2020 that I personally know about so yes it’s at W schools.

One died in Jan of last year: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/04/23/after-whitman-students-fentanyl-overdose-family-hopes-awareness-will-prevent-similar-tragedy/

I also know 3 private school OD’s

How many OD’d at school?

You want the #’s sent to the hospital or just the ones that die?

I think the question is if these examples of kids from private schools overdosing is an important datapoint for sake of comparison, how many overdosed on school premises as what happened to this poor child (my heart goes out to her and her family).

I don’t really understand why you care if they take the drugs in the am before school or on the weekend in their basement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

They most likely take the pill before school, feel ill and go to the bathroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

The common denominator in many of the MCPS school safety incidents are bathrooms. Maybe they could start there.

If it's pills, bathrooms are not necessary...students I would think could just hand them off in the halls or at lunchtime. Or before school