Second overdose at Kennedy

[Anonymous]

I went to a UMC high school. Drugs were everywhere.

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I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

The common denominator in many of the MCPS school safety incidents are bathrooms. Maybe they could start there.

They already close entire floor's worth of bathrooms. That's not the solution.

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I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

Except they are literally crushing the percocets and smoking them in the bathrooms like crack. You don’t have the fundamental knowledge on this issue to meaningful engage, so stop.

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I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

The common denominator in many of the MCPS school safety incidents are bathrooms. Maybe they could start there.

If it's pills, bathrooms are not necessary...students I would think could just hand them off in the halls or at lunchtime. Or before school

Why is this relevant? There are any number of theoretical scenarios. Real things that have happened have involved bathrooms which indicates the need for better monitoring.

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Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

What does Walter Johnson and bcc rate? How about Whitman? Do you think they have drug issues there?

2 W students have overdosed since 2020 that I personally know about so yes it’s at W schools.

One died in Jan of last year: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/04/23/after-whitman-students-fentanyl-overdose-family-hopes-awareness-will-prevent-similar-tragedy/

I also know 3 private school OD’s

How many OD’d at school?

You want the #’s sent to the hospital or just the ones that die?

I think the question is if these examples of kids from private schools overdosing is an important datapoint for sake of comparison, how many overdosed on school premises as what happened to this poor child (my heart goes out to her and her family).

I don’t really understand why you care if they take the drugs in the am before school or on the weekend in their basement.

Then pointing to private school kids overdosing is not relevant here. What is important and relevant here is a kid overdosing AT SCHOOL and how to make the school environment safer while kids are there.

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Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

What does Walter Johnson and bcc rate? How about Whitman? Do you think they have drug issues there?

2 W students have overdosed since 2020 that I personally know about so yes it’s at W schools.

One died in Jan of last year: https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/04/23/after-whitman-students-fentanyl-overdose-family-hopes-awareness-will-prevent-similar-tragedy/

I also know 3 private school OD’s

How many OD’d at school?

You want the #’s sent to the hospital or just the ones that die?

I think the question is if these examples of kids from private schools overdosing is an important datapoint for sake of comparison, how many overdosed on school premises as what happened to this poor child (my heart goes out to her and her family).

I don’t really understand why you care if they take the drugs in the am before school or on the weekend in their basement.

Then pointing to private school kids overdosing is not relevant here. What is important and relevant here is a kid overdosing AT SCHOOL and how to make the school environment safer while kids are there.

Parents check their pockets and backpacks for drugs.

[Anonymous]

The parents who think it’s MCPS fault for not monitoring their kids every minute at school are the same ones who complain if teachers limit hall passes to one at a time or the school takes the doors off the bathrooms to discourage kids from congregating there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The parents who think it’s MCPS fault for not monitoring their kids every minute at school are the same ones who complain if teachers limit hall passes to one at a time or the school takes the doors off the bathrooms to discourage kids from congregating there.

There's only so much a school can do, and if some students choose to break the law, their bad choices are hardly MCPS' fault. However, I do think regular schools shouldn't have to deal with this sort of thing, and when there are students who are known to have serious issues, they should be isolated from ordinary students and enrolled in a place that can better help with their problems.

[Anonymous]

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I would like to understand how a parent has failed if their kid goes to school, someone at school gives them drugs, they use the drugs at school and then overdose at school.

As a parent you can do everything you can to keep your kids safe at home. But you have no control after you send them to school except to hope and prey that your kids are not influenced by others.

If MCPS did more to address the behavioral problems to keep bad kids away, a lot of this crisis would be avoided.

How many kids lives need to be sacrificed before bad kids are held accountable and removed from school settings?

As a parent, I would hope that if someone tried to give my kid drugs, at school or not at school, my kid would not take them, full stop. If the only reason your kid isn't taking drugs is that they can't find any to take, that's a problem right there. I don't think that means you as a parent have failed. It's more complicated than that. But don't blame the "bad kids" for your kid taking drugs. The "bad kids" aren't forcing your kid to take drugs; that's your kid's choice.

I'm not saying I disagree with you....but teenagers are also incredibly susceptible to peer pressure and intimidation. And there actually have been instances of older kids (juniors and seniors) forcing and threatening younger kids to try drugs for their amusement.

So the PP's point is valid. Parents can't control the behavior of their kids or other people's kids at school. That is really on MCPS when they're within their walls.

These kids aren't just doing drugs at school, let's be real. You need to monitor your kids at home, trust by verify and if they are showing signs, get them help.

Nobody said they're ONLY doing drugs at school, but we are asking MCPS to be accountable and proactive to prevent drug use from within its jurisdiction. What's so difficult to understand about that?

How can they do that? These are likely pills, not smoking or something visible.

The common denominator in many of the MCPS school safety incidents are bathrooms. Maybe they could start there.

If it's pills, bathrooms are not necessary...students I would think could just hand them off in the halls or at lunchtime. Or before school

Why is this relevant? There are any number of theoretical scenarios. Real things that have happened have involved bathrooms which indicates the need for better monitoring.

Read the string, it is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

50% low income

Drug use isn't about HHI or SES. It affects all groups.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents who think it’s MCPS fault for not monitoring their kids every minute at school are the same ones who complain if teachers limit hall passes to one at a time or the school takes the doors off the bathrooms to discourage kids from congregating there.

There's only so much a school can do, and if some students choose to break the law, their bad choices are hardly MCPS' fault. However, I do think regular schools shouldn't have to deal with this sort of thing, and when there are students who are known to have serious issues, they should be isolated from ordinary students and enrolled in a place that can better help with their problems.

Correct.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who think it’s MCPS fault for not monitoring their kids every minute at school are the same ones who complain if teachers limit hall passes to one at a time or the school takes the doors off the bathrooms to discourage kids from congregating there.

There's only so much a school can do, and if some students choose to break the law, their bad choices are hardly MCPS' fault. However, I do think regular schools shouldn't have to deal with this sort of thing, and when there are students who are known to have serious issues, they should be isolated from ordinary students and enrolled in a place that can better help with their problems.

Regular schools and ordinary students use drugs too. This is a nationwide issue, which is now trickling down to the schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This school is very poorly rated, its sad but not a surprise

https://www.greatschools.org/maryland/silver-spring/911-John-F.-Kennedy-High-School/

50% low income

Drug use isn't about HHI or SES. It affects all groups.

I don't know why people keep acting like this is isolated to the impoverished. It's been proven wrong enough times....substance abuse is an issue for EVERYONE of ALL CLASSES.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who think it’s MCPS fault for not monitoring their kids every minute at school are the same ones who complain if teachers limit hall passes to one at a time or the school takes the doors off the bathrooms to discourage kids from congregating there.

There's only so much a school can do, and if some students choose to break the law, their bad choices are hardly MCPS' fault. However, I do think regular schools shouldn't have to deal with this sort of thing, and when there are students who are known to have serious issues, they should be isolated from ordinary students and enrolled in a place that can better help with their problems.

Regular schools and ordinary students use drugs too. This is a nationwide issue, which is now trickling down to the schools.

You know that the PP was talking about kids who are actively and repeatedly abusing substances at school vs those who aren't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The parents who think it’s MCPS fault for not monitoring their kids every minute at school are the same ones who complain if teachers limit hall passes to one at a time or the school takes the doors off the bathrooms to discourage kids from congregating there.