Kid wearing a tutu to class

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Actually, no. Sounds like a nice idea, but only serves to harm them. DP

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in San Francisco a long time apparently - I had to read this twice to try to figure out what the problem is. DD had a friend wear a onesie to school every day for a month. Kids would wear a cape or a tail. Nobody cares here. It's okay to be weird, and self-expression is fine as long as it doesn't endorse violence, drugs, or hate speech.

But even you recognize that it's "weird." Why encourage someone to dress in a way that will ultimately result in teasing?

Too bad this seems to be the ultimate fear of parents these days. Your kid will be teased, your kid will be left out...

See what happens when a basic has kids

I work in middle school settings. Some of you are very naive or so nonconforming that you either do not care or don't get it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am curious how this is different than students who wear, say, cat ears?

It’s middle school. Some are clinging to their childhood still. Others are trying to shock adults. They’re all trying on identities.

As an adult our job is to give them the safe space to let them do this stuff without judgment. They will grow out of it.

Or become the next Billy Porter. Either way, fine.

I got it - well played.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

Not really believing you. You and the “weather appropriate” PP sound like you have toddlers. Or grandkids who are toddlers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in San Francisco a long time apparently - I had to read this twice to try to figure out what the problem is. DD had a friend wear a onesie to school every day for a month. Kids would wear a cape or a tail. Nobody cares here. It's okay to be weird, and self-expression is fine as long as it doesn't endorse violence, drugs, or hate speech.

But even you recognize that it's "weird." Why encourage someone to dress in a way that will ultimately result in teasing?

Too bad this seems to be the ultimate fear of parents these days. Your kid will be teased, your kid will be left out...

See what happens when a basic has kids

I work in middle school settings. Some of you are very naive or so nonconforming that you either do not care or don't get it.

But you clearly have never parented a middle schooler.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived in San Francisco a long time apparently - I had to read this twice to try to figure out what the problem is. DD had a friend wear a onesie to school every day for a month. Kids would wear a cape or a tail. Nobody cares here. It's okay to be weird, and self-expression is fine as long as it doesn't endorse violence, drugs, or hate speech.

But even you recognize that it's "weird." Why encourage someone to dress in a way that will ultimately result in teasing?

Too bad this seems to be the ultimate fear of parents these days. Your kid will be teased, your kid will be left out...

See what happens when a basic has kids

I work in middle school settings. Some of you are very naive or so nonconforming that you either do not care or don't get it.

Maybe you are not getting it. This teen boy knows what it is to wear a tutu to school and he's still doing it. Who knows why? Is it the parent's job to stop him because some kids might bully him? At this age, does he not know what he is getting himself into as far as sticking out at school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

Not really believing you. You and the “weather appropriate” PP sound like you have toddlers. Or grandkids who are toddlers.

Then don’t ask. Don’t know what else to tell you. I’ll unenroll my kids out of their middle and high schools since you don’t believe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

Not really believing you. You and the “weather appropriate” PP sound like you have toddlers. Or grandkids who are toddlers.

NP. Might you be a parent of a toddler or a grandparent? Seemingly, you are projecting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

Not really believing you. You and the “weather appropriate” PP sound like you have toddlers. Or grandkids who are toddlers.

NP. Might you be a parent of a toddler or a grandparent? Seemingly, you are projecting.

Have a tween and teen. PP is clueless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've lived in San Francisco a long time apparently - I had to read this twice to try to figure out what the problem is. DD had a friend wear a onesie to school every day for a month. Kids would wear a cape or a tail. Nobody cares here. It's okay to be weird, and self-expression is fine as long as it doesn't endorse violence, drugs, or hate speech.

But even you recognize that it's "weird." Why encourage someone to dress in a way that will ultimately result in teasing?

Too bad this seems to be the ultimate fear of parents these days. Your kid will be teased, your kid will be left out...

See what happens when a basic has kids

I work in middle school settings. Some of you are very naive or so nonconforming that you either do not care or don't get it.

Maybe you are not getting it. This teen boy knows what it is to wear a tutu to school and he's still doing it. Who knows why? Is it the parent's job to stop him because some kids might bully him? At this age, does he not know what he is getting himself into as far as sticking out at school?

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

Not really believing you. You and the “weather appropriate” PP sound like you have toddlers. Or grandkids who are toddlers.

NP. Might you be a parent of a toddler or a grandparent? Seemingly, you are projecting.

Have a tween and teen. PP is clueless.

Like you being clueless of ages of pp that you said you don’t believe.
We don’t believe you either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when parents try to prevent their kid from being bullied (by bullying their kids, basically). Especially by middle school kids have a pretty good idea of what will get them bullied. Or the bullying is random. As the parent you have almost zero insight into the social dynamics of your middle schooler and trying to control them is futile. If child wants to wear a tutu, they are obviously consciously signally SOMETHING (could be a variety of things). I'm assuming the child is not an idiot and has some insight into the potential reactions of people at school and is trying to provoke those reactions. This is normal and a part of testing out individual identity. As a parent it's our job to support that process not to add to the kid's stress.

You don’t understand when a parent tries to prevent their child from getting bullied? Seriously?

Getting hurt is living life. We can't bubble wrap our kids from everything. Not to mention, we'd probably get it wrong.

Show them what to do in case of bullying. Not just telling them what not to do so they don't get bullied. What if they still get bullied?

We are talking about kids here. Not adults who can handle themselves.

This is how teens (that's this forum right?) learn how to handle these situations.

Set them up for being bullied at a vulnerable age. That’ll fix those bullies!

How old are your kids? Do you have any kids?

Uh, yes and they are tween and teens. And you are still wrong.

Not really believing you. You and the “weather appropriate” PP sound like you have toddlers. Or grandkids who are toddlers.

NP. Might you be a parent of a toddler or a grandparent? Seemingly, you are projecting.

Have a tween and teen. PP is clueless.

Okay, grandma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've lived in San Francisco a long time apparently - I had to read this twice to try to figure out what the problem is. DD had a friend wear a onesie to school every day for a month. Kids would wear a cape or a tail. Nobody cares here. It's okay to be weird, and self-expression is fine as long as it doesn't endorse violence, drugs, or hate speech.

But even you recognize that it's "weird." Why encourage someone to dress in a way that will ultimately result in teasing?

Too bad this seems to be the ultimate fear of parents these days. Your kid will be teased, your kid will be left out...

See what happens when a basic has kids

I work in middle school settings. Some of you are very naive or so nonconforming that you either do not care or don't get it.

Maybe you are not getting it. This teen boy knows what it is to wear a tutu to school and he's still doing it. Who knows why? Is it the parent's job to stop him because some kids might bully him? At this age, does he not know what he is getting himself into as far as sticking out at school?

Yup. There was one boy who consistently wore girls' clothing in DD's ES. There is a different boy that does it at her MS. I have asked DD if they get bullied, and she said no, nobody cares.