Let’s update gradebook

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

This is very true. Everyone got one lesson. There was no differentiation so less planning.

And kids learned more too. We have made teaching harder for teachers and less effective. How progressive!

Well the reason is SPED and ESOL weren’t mainstreamed.

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Anonymous wrote:It's your job. Do it.

It’s your job to send a healthy, well cared-for, non-sociopath student to school but half of y’all ain’t done that lately. The grade book can wait.

Mine is healthy, well-cared for and the teachers generally like DC. Yet, some can't offer any sort of timely grade or helpful feedback.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

I mean, then you aren't adequately teaching them how to write. I had to step in and do it, finally, in MS when it was clear my honors student with straight A's couldn't identify parts of speech or string more than 2 sentences together. It's unacceptable.

I have taught parts of speech all year and some kids still don’t have it mastered. I have taught writing and some kids refuse to write in complete sentences. It isn’t always that it is not taught. Many students don’t apply it.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

I mean, then you aren't adequately teaching them how to write. I had to step in and do it, finally, in MS when it was clear my honors student with straight A's couldn't identify parts of speech or string more than 2 sentences together. It's unacceptable.

We have daily writing lessons. The students have taken three types of writing through the writing process. My point was the teacher “back then” didn’t have nearly the responsibilities in addition to grading that teachers have today.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

I mean, then you aren't adequately teaching them how to write. I had to step in and do it, finally, in MS when it was clear my honors student with straight A's couldn't identify parts of speech or string more than 2 sentences together. It's unacceptable.

I have taught parts of speech all year and some kids still don’t have it mastered. I have taught writing and some kids refuse to write in complete sentences. It isn’t always that it is not taught. Many students don’t apply it.

Why should they? They get 3/4 without applying it.

This isn't about you. You're a good teacher. But the way that teachers teach I'm FCPS and all over the country needs to change.

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Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier about staying mostly up to date grading but then retakes. Counted the students who signed up for this unit's retake. I teach just under 90 honors students. I have 28 honors students requesting the test retake. The average for this test was an 84. About a third of those requesting a retake scored above an 80% on the original test. I don't know when an 80% became a bad enough grade to have to take a retake.

Isn’t the highest you can get on a retake 80 percent? So if a kid scores higher, why do they have an option to retake?

At my school students can score up to 100% on a retake.

What FCPS school is this?!? At our school (Chsntilly), students can only score up to an 80 on a test retake.

Herndon (depending on teacher) will give 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

That’s what I was saying. 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous wrote:Happy to beat that with one class that hasn’t had a grade since 11/10.

Jesus, I just don’t understand why they just don’t update the gradebook

The list of things y’all don’t understand about teacher workloads could fill the Grand Canyon.

Plenty of teachers do it on time. And if you aren't grading and giving feedback, you AREN'T teaching. You're checking boxes.

Well, I have to check about 600 boxes a day. No, that’s not hyperbole.

It won’t make a difference when I tell you I got 43 minutes to myself today to plan tomorrow’s lessons, comment on 72 9th grade essays that just got turned in, comment on 46 AP assignments, as well as respond to 4 parent emails, over 15 student emails, and 2 from administrators. I also needed to use that 43 minutes to update my paperwork for the SpEd department showing how I am differentiating each lesson for my students with IEPs and 504s. (Oh… I needed to use those 43 minutes to do that, too.) Guess what else went into that 43 minutes? Lunch and a bathroom break!

Unfortunately, I just wasn’t able to get it all done today. Perhaps a better teacher could have?

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

That’s what I was saying. 🤷‍♀️

Yeah. I got that. You wrote, "There is not enough time in a day". I was just elaborating with a comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

This is very true. Everyone got one lesson. There was no differentiation so less planning.

Not true. There was differentian. The difference was that disruptive students were removed (not the class) and the class did not have as many diverse needs (more than one ESOL kid needing remedial English, there were different reading and math groups, TAG pullouts that had kids doing additional work, teachers could take kids out for recess in order to give them break so they could focus better). Teachers had more autonomy. Again, things were just different. Some things are better but there a few key things that were thrown out without suitable replacements.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

I mean, then you aren't adequately teaching them how to write. I had to step in and do it, finally, in MS when it was clear my honors student with straight A's couldn't identify parts of speech or string more than 2 sentences together. It's unacceptable.

I have taught parts of speech all year and some kids still don’t have it mastered. I have taught writing and some kids refuse to write in complete sentences. It isn’t always that it is not taught. Many students don’t apply it.

I believe you, but how long is spent on this? Are you able to do this throughout the year or is it a 1-2 week unit?

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Anonymous wrote:I posted earlier about staying mostly up to date grading but then retakes. Counted the students who signed up for this unit's retake. I teach just under 90 honors students. I have 28 honors students requesting the test retake. The average for this test was an 84. About a third of those requesting a retake scored above an 80% on the original test. I don't know when an 80% became a bad enough grade to have to take a retake.

Isn’t the highest you can get on a retake 80 percent? So if a kid scores higher, why do they have an option to retake?

At my school students can score up to 100% on a retake.

What FCPS school is this?!? At our school (Chsntilly), students can only score up to an 80 on a test retake.

Herndon (depending on teacher) will give 100%.

Lake Braddock goes up to 100%

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

I mean, then you aren't adequately teaching them how to write. I had to step in and do it, finally, in MS when it was clear my honors student with straight A's couldn't identify parts of speech or string more than 2 sentences together. It's unacceptable.

Well, there are plenty of open positions. Try managing a caseload of 150 kids with little planning time and tons of crap work to do to satisfy administrators.

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Anonymous wrote:Happy to beat that with one class that hasn’t had a grade since 11/10.

Jesus, I just don’t understand why they just don’t update the gradebook

The list of things y’all don’t understand about teacher workloads could fill the Grand Canyon.

Plenty of teachers do it on time. And if you aren't grading and giving feedback, you AREN'T teaching. You're checking boxes.

Well, I have to check about 600 boxes a day. No, that’s not hyperbole.

It won’t make a difference when I tell you I got 43 minutes to myself today to plan tomorrow’s lessons, comment on 72 9th grade essays that just got turned in, comment on 46 AP assignments, as well as respond to 4 parent emails, over 15 student emails, and 2 from administrators. I also needed to use that 43 minutes to update my paperwork for the SpEd department showing how I am differentiating each lesson for my students with IEPs and 504s. (Oh… I needed to use those 43 minutes to do that, too.) Guess what else went into that 43 minutes? Lunch and a bathroom break!

Unfortunately, I just wasn’t able to get it all done today. Perhaps a better teacher could have?

Exactly. This is why teachers bristle when you tell them they aren’t doing a good enough job. It’s an impossible job with too many tasks, and “clients” and supervisors with different demands. I am just trying to keep my head above water.

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Anonymous wrote:Last time my DD teacher updated the grade book was December 9th….

Students have been doing assignments since then, semester end soon and nothing graded. I’m not telling you how to do your job, but you should update your grade book kids need to know if they are missing anything. Please

The horror. Imagine what it must have been like for our parents, who couldn't check on our day-to-day gradebook progress back in the day! How did they EVER survive their anxiety?

Stop. The bigger problem is that STUDENTS do not have feedback on their work. SIS happens to allow parents to see work, bc it is a web based system. In the old days, graded assignments were returned to students in a timely manner. You could see what you did wrong so you didn’t repeat the mistake going forward. Not so today. School policy complicates things more by making deadlines for student homework meaningless. So if Larlo turns in his homework late (if at all) it may not be in the batch that a teacher is currently grading. It is a friggin’ mess.

You had a very different experience than I did in high school. Most of my work was never returned, and when it was it just said "A" or "B" on it, there was no feedback.

Very different then. Marked up essays with RED pen with suggestions/notes/comments on the side. Weekly essays / stories through middle school and we also had to read them out loud. This was public school (went to private HS). Math graded with 1/2 points awarded if you missed one step but the rest was right. Today’s classrooms are not even comparable. Some things are better but a lot of useful skills (eg, how to take notes) have been replaced with something inferior (eg, gluing notes in a notebook). Even our notes were reviewed on occasion — this was 4th, 5th and 6th grade. AAP is a joke. It is what everyone was expected to do (eg, Latin/Greek roots). We learned to hand write in print, cursive … and calligraphy (thank you, Mrs. Zink our 3rd grade teacher).

Today teachers are called into too many meetings. There is not enough time in a day. It stinks for everyone.

Back then Mrs Zink wasn’t planning and managing Morning Meeting, phonics small groups, phonological awareness small groups, an intervention block, math stations, math groups, Writers’ Worskhop, writing conferences, word study, along with science and social studies. Mrs. Zink wasn’t trying to figure out which students need a follow-up DSA and/or PRF and find a time to do the assessments while also squeezing in the previously mentioned groups. Mrs. Zink wasn’t completing report cards that contain 1,000+ marks at the end of each quarter.

I mean, then you aren't adequately teaching them how to write. I had to step in and do it, finally, in MS when it was clear my honors student with straight A's couldn't identify parts of speech or string more than 2 sentences together. It's unacceptable.

I have taught parts of speech all year and some kids still don’t have it mastered. I have taught writing and some kids refuse to write in complete sentences. It isn’t always that it is not taught. Many students don’t apply it.

I believe you, but how long is spent on this? Are you able to do this throughout the year or is it a 1-2 week unit?

I spent all of quarter one and consistently have the kids practice. Honestly, I just think some kids don’t care.