Enough already

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP…you are being ridiculous.

Yeah....so much to say but ridiculous sums it up perfectly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have no idea what happened in her life, OP. Stop it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe she found her brain and moved out of state to a blue one.

Absolute possibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Amen demand answers or claw back their pay

LOL claw back pay for months already worked? You are cray

Seriously crazy....but a delicious lawsuit for said X-teacher lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe she found her brain and moved out of state to a blue one.

Absolute possibility

Absolute possibility that you two jackholes bring in politics into a non political thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They’re under contract and should be expected to fulfill their responsibilities. It’s not an at-will job.

LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

Oh no no no no no no. Teachers were some of the first to get vaccinated - they jumped the line and bumped grandma. They got their vaccines and then still chose to stay home and teach virtually. They did not want to come back the rest of that year, which was absolute bs.

LOL....you sound dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea why she left, despite any reason you may have been given. My daughter left mid-year several years ago. She was fighting a life threatening illness. The world does not revolve around your snowflake.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea why she left, despite any reason you may have been given. My daughter left mid-year several years ago. She was fighting a life threatening illness. The world does not revolve around your snowflake.

Kids have heard that message loud and clear, during the pandemic and before that. They know. They know how they are valued and how powerless they are. And then we blame them for being anxiety filled basket cases...

+1 So much this. Children's ability to be resilient is not an excuse for every decision and action that isn't in the best interest of children or for denying their understandable confusion when important adults act in a way that seems to disregard their needs, such as leaving abruptly without any explanation. The "it's none of your business" line is technically true but drives parents and students apart. Kids don't become stronger by shutting them out and showing them there's nothing they can count on.

To the PP, I'm sorry to hear about your daughter and hope she has recovered.

[Anonymous]

Lincoln freed the slaves, lady.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They learn that teachers aren't slaves and if you push too much, they will leave. Good lesson there.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lincoln freed the slaves, lady.

As well as all contractual obligations, sense of obligation, duty, and respect for children, colleagues, and self?

His reach through time is impressive. Almost unbelievably impressive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

Oh no no no no no no. Teachers were some of the first to get vaccinated - they jumped the line and bumped grandma. They got their vaccines and then still chose to stay home and teach virtually. They did not want to come back the rest of that year, which was absolute bs.

Teachers didn’t jump the line. They were told to go get vaccinated and in some cases, told they could not return to work if they didn’t and would then be fired.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lincoln freed the slaves, lady.

As well as all contractual obligations, sense of obligation, duty, and respect for children, colleagues, and self?

His reach through time is impressive. Almost unbelievably impressive.

Respect for self includes recognizing when you are being badly treated with no hope of recourse.