Enough already

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

You sound insane and entitled. You want to sentence teachers to a life of indentured servitude because they sure as heck don't make any money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe she found her brain and moved out of state to a blue one.

+1

[Anonymous]

I would love to teach and I volunteer at my sons elementary school as often as I can (at least 3x s a month.) as well as at the local high school as a mentor. But the pay is WAY too low for me to switch jobs. Op wants a slave for her precious snowflake. we need to pay teachers more, reduce their busy work (hours spent inputting assignments that your kid should be keeping track of) and reduce class sizes so they aren’t just doing crowd control. Unless you are at every community meeting fighting for this, OP you have nothing to say but should offer her a nice going away present for how much you appreciate her time spent with your son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would love to teach and I volunteer at my sons elementary school as often as I can (at least 3x s a month.) as well as at the local high school as a mentor. But the pay is WAY too low for me to switch jobs. Op wants a slave for her precious snowflake. we need to pay teachers more, reduce their busy work (hours spent inputting assignments that your kid should be keeping track of) and reduce class sizes so they aren’t just doing crowd control. Unless you are at every community meeting fighting for this, OP you have nothing to say but should offer her a nice going away present for how much you appreciate her time spent with your son.

Nice gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

You sound insane and entitled. You want to sentence teachers to a life of indentured servitude because they sure as heck don't make any money?

Entitled so entitled! You have to love Fairfax County

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lincoln freed the slaves, lady.

As well as all contractual obligations, sense of obligation, duty, and respect for children, colleagues, and self?

His reach through time is impressive. Almost unbelievably impressive.

You can think whatever you want about people's obligations, but the fact of the matter is that a contract can't force you to work, because that would indeed be slavery. It can impose consequences for not working, but teachers will always be allowed to quit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

No, OP is not doing anything wrong by saying that her DC is being hurt by the decision of a teacher to quit midyear. The teacher has made her decision, for whatever good or bad reason, and there are consequences. Is that teacher reading this board, will that teacher be hurt by this post? Probably not. If so, so be it.

+1 As we model resilience for our kids, we should not be denying the negative impact of events in their lives. Gaslighting parents by telling them it's wrong to be concerned that their kids aren't receiving the instruction they deserve serves no purpose. It is appropriate for parents to make administrators aware of their concerns about not having consistent instruction. In addition, parents can brainstorm with their kids about how to cope with the departure and, if possible, discuss supplementing the subject matter outside of school.

Can we also add to show appreciation for the teachers that are remaining/replacing? Maybe assume positive intent from teachers and not threaten to raise petty issues to the administration? Reinforce the importance of respecting teachers with your children?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

Oh no no no no no no. Teachers were some of the first to get vaccinated - they jumped the line and bumped grandma. They got their vaccines and then still chose to stay home and teach virtually. They did not want to come back the rest of that year, which was absolute bs.

Teachers didn’t jump the line. They were told to go get vaccinated and in some cases, told they could not return to work if they didn’t and would then be fired.

How quickly you forget. Yes they did. In January of 2021 when vaccines first came out, it was going by age groups (eldest first). Teacher unions complained and then suddenly they were made a priority. Teachers got to go earlier than my elderly parents. Then, schools still didn’t open up, and when they did, our kids were subjected to this 2 days in, 2 days out virtual hybrid nonsense bs. And many teachers didn’t come in to teach in person for the rest of the year, despite being fully vaccinated in January. Shameful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea why she left, despite any reason you may have been given. My daughter left mid-year several years ago. She was fighting a life threatening illness. The world does not revolve around your snowflake.

Kids have heard that message loud and clear, during the pandemic and before that. They know. They know how they are valued and how powerless they are. And then we blame them for being anxiety filled basket cases...

+1 So much this. Children's ability to be resilient is not an excuse for every decision and action that isn't in the best interest of children or for denying their understandable confusion when important adults act in a way that seems to disregard their needs, such as leaving abruptly without any explanation. The "it's none of your business" line is technically true but drives parents and students apart. Kids don't become stronger by shutting them out and showing them there's nothing they can count on.

To the PP, I'm sorry to hear about your daughter and hope she has recovered.

Maybe it’s a good lesson for them to learn young.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have NO idea why she left, despite any reason you may have been given. My daughter left mid-year several years ago. She was fighting a life threatening illness. The world does not revolve around your snowflake.

Kids have heard that message loud and clear, during the pandemic and before that. They know. They know how they are valued and how powerless they are. And then we blame them for being anxiety filled basket cases...

+1 So much this. Children's ability to be resilient is not an excuse for every decision and action that isn't in the best interest of children or for denying their understandable confusion when important adults act in a way that seems to disregard their needs, such as leaving abruptly without any explanation. The "it's none of your business" line is technically true but drives parents and students apart. Kids don't become stronger by shutting them out and showing them there's nothing they can count on.

To the PP, I'm sorry to hear about your daughter and hope she has recovered.

Maybe it’s a good lesson for them to learn young.

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NP here. ITA. So many parents in this area are control freaks, and not everyone has to cater to you - sorry, not sorry. Better the kids learn early.

[Anonymous]

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Maybe she found her brain and moved out of state to a blue one.

Maybe she's about to TTC. Maybe she's afraid being denied care if she miscarries, since that seems to be the road Youngkin is taking us down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

Oh no no no no no no. Teachers were some of the first to get vaccinated - they jumped the line and bumped grandma. They got their vaccines and then still chose to stay home and teach virtually. They did not want to come back the rest of that year, which was absolute bs.

Everything you just said is a lie and absolute bs.

[Anonymous]

DCUM 2020: "Just put any warm and able bodied adult in the classroom to get kids in school!"

monkey paw curls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

Oh no no no no no no. Teachers were some of the first to get vaccinated - they jumped the line and bumped grandma. They got their vaccines and then still chose to stay home and teach virtually. They did not want to come back the rest of that year, which was absolute bs.

Teachers didn’t jump the line. They were told to go get vaccinated and in some cases, told they could not return to work if they didn’t and would then be fired.

How quickly you forget. Yes they did. In January of 2021 when vaccines first came out, it was going by age groups (eldest first). Teacher unions complained and then suddenly they were made a priority. Teachers got to go earlier than my elderly parents. Then, schools still didn’t open up, and when they did, our kids were subjected to this 2 days in, 2 days out virtual hybrid nonsense bs. And many teachers didn’t come in to teach in person for the rest of the year, despite being fully vaccinated in January. Shameful.

I got my first shot at the end of January and the second at the beginning of March right when schools reopened. Not sure what you're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

OK. Is the teacher supposed to care about your opinion?