Enough already

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

Oh no no no no no no. Teachers were some of the first to get vaccinated - they jumped the line and bumped grandma. They got their vaccines and then still chose to stay home and teach virtually. They did not want to come back the rest of that year, which was absolute bs.

Teachers didn’t jump the line. They were told to go get vaccinated and in some cases, told they could not return to work if they didn’t and would then be fired.

How quickly you forget. Yes they did. In January of 2021 when vaccines first came out, it was going by age groups (eldest first). Teacher unions complained and then suddenly they were made a priority. Teachers got to go earlier than my elderly parents. Then, schools still didn’t open up, and when they did, our kids were subjected to this 2 days in, 2 days out virtual hybrid nonsense bs. And many teachers didn’t come in to teach in person for the rest of the year, despite being fully vaccinated in January. Shameful.

It is 2022. Grow up, stop perseverating and playing the victim and moooooove ooooooonnnn.

x1 billion

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Anonymous wrote:NP. Teachers are burnt out from the stress of the pandemic, from behaviors, from unreasonable job demands, etc.

The thing is, kids are burnt out too. They don't have the recourse to break their contracts and quit midyear. They just have to go to school, burnt out, maybe behind academically and lost, stressed, and in a stressful school environment with behaviors, etc. And then they lose their teacher, and when their parents complain, the students are expected to "be resilient" and be quiet.

Parents/students have choice: public, private, or homeschool.

Np. That’s not a choice. Most people cannot afford private and also can’t homeschool. Public school isn’t free. I pay a lot in taxes for it. Give me my money and I’ll choose private.

You’re not getting vouchers, and millions of people work full-time and still homeschool, so save that excuse. You don’t have to do it during public school hours. It means you’ll have to pay for childcare while you work, but since it gets your kids out of the clutches of the Evil, Lazy Teachers, surely that sacrifice will be worth it to you.

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Anonymous wrote:So once the teachers got vaccinated and schools finally opened, how come not every single teacher went back in person? Explain that.

You sound like a petulant child.

Just stating facts. You can’t handle the truth!

Your response is even more childish. Astounding. Grow up and move on.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe parents like you and their kids should have treated her better. It's a job. She has no obligation to stay through the school year and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation as to why.

She has an obligation. If she chooses to break her contract, no, she doesn't need to give an explanation. But if she had a good explanation, she would have given it.

She had NO OBLIGATION and she owes no one an explanation. You entitled parents are pathetic.

All of your attacks on parents in defense of a teacher who quit midyear are hindering, not helping.

The teacher is a working adult, not a soldier, who can quit any time they choose. The entitled parents stomping their feet and shrieking about it are asinine. They don’t like that being pointed out, but too damn bad.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe parents like you and their kids should have treated her better. It's a job. She has no obligation to stay through the school year and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation as to why.

She has an obligation. If she chooses to break her contract, no, she doesn't need to give an explanation. But if she had a good explanation, she would have given it.

She had NO OBLIGATION and she owes no one an explanation. You entitled parents are pathetic.

All of your attacks on parents in defense of a teacher who quit midyear are hindering, not helping.

Attacks on parents LOL.... No one is trying to help you with your tone deaf comments.

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Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe parents like you and their kids should have treated her better. It's a job. She has no obligation to stay through the school year and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation as to why.

She has an obligation. If she chooses to break her contract, no, she doesn't need to give an explanation. But if she had a good explanation, she would have given it.

She had NO OBLIGATION and she owes no one an explanation. You entitled parents are pathetic.

All of your attacks on parents in defense of a teacher who quit midyear are hindering, not helping.

The teacher is a working adult, not a soldier, who can quit any time they choose. The entitled parents stomping their feet and shrieking about it are asinine. They don’t like that being pointed out, but too damn bad.

Amen!

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Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe parents like you and their kids should have treated her better. It's a job. She has no obligation to stay through the school year and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation as to why.

She has an obligation. If she chooses to break her contract, no, she doesn't need to give an explanation. But if she had a good explanation, she would have given it.

She had NO OBLIGATION and she owes no one an explanation. You entitled parents are pathetic.

All of your attacks on parents in defense of a teacher who quit midyear are hindering, not helping.

Attacks on parents LOL.... No one is trying to help you with your tone deaf comments.

Hindering (which is a nice way of saying hurting) teachers, not parents. Sheesh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some people, and teachers, are truly selfless and that is an amazing and wonderful thing... but no one is obligated to be, and that is totally okay. How exactly would you enforce 'not being allowed to quit?' Chain them to a desk? Everyone is free, and that is even more important than how you or your child feel about it. Turn it into a life lesson opportunity, OP

At one time, people took pride in their professions, and contracts were written in a way to enforce that for those who didn't. Getting blacklisted was a real threat and deterrent. But over the past recent decades, companies have demonstrated their lack of loyalty to their employees and employees have learned to have no loyalty in return. It has taken additional time but the same shift has now finally happened in teaching. Professionalism is no longer the norm, in either direction, blacklisting is no longer a threat, and now contracts are no longer sacrosanct. They're breakable. And getting broken.

Specific to teaching: Public school teaching now requires more paperwork and meetings than actual teaching. There is very little time allotted to course prep or grading, which means teachers have to do both on their time, which decreases the quality of instruction, OR decreases the teacher's quality of life. On top of that, being a teacher is not a respected profession anymore. Parents yell at teachers, demand special treatment for their kids, bully them to change a B to an A because entry to private high school or entry to college has gotten cut-throat competitive...

... so teachers can't win. They are asked to do the impossible, every day. And during the 2020 lockdowns, on this very board, teachers were excoriated by a good number of you, called all sorts of names, and generally reviled and despised, because they were afraid for their lives before vaccines were distributed. As a result of aggressive parental pressure, so many fled the profession that there is now a dire nationwide teacher shortage.

OP, shame on you.

No, OP is not doing anything wrong by saying that her DC is being hurt by the decision of a teacher to quit midyear. The teacher has made her decision, for whatever good or bad reason, and there are consequences. Is that teacher reading this board, will that teacher be hurt by this post? Probably not. If so, so be it.

I thought these were parenting moments and teaching moments to learn resiliency ?

The teacher has NO obligation to a student.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe parents like you and their kids should have treated her better. It's a job. She has no obligation to stay through the school year and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation as to why.

Plus one.

Who do you think you are?

She has an obligation. If she chooses to break her contract, no, she doesn't need to give an explanation. But if she had a good explanation, she would have given it.

She had NO OBLIGATION and she owes no one an explanation. You entitled parents are pathetic.

All of your attacks on parents in defense of a teacher who quit midyear are hindering, not helping.

The teacher is a working adult, not a soldier, who can quit any time they choose. The entitled parents stomping their feet and shrieking about it are asinine. They don’t like that being pointed out, but too damn bad.

[Anonymous]

Those who can’t do, teach. This who can’t teach, teach gym.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who can’t do, teach. This who can’t teach, teach gym.

Wasn't this written by a child molester?

Great addition to this thread!

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Anonymous wrote:Those who can’t do, teach. This who can’t teach, teach gym.

And you wonder why the teachers are quitting...

You're such a fool.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a principal. I spent most of December giving gifts, having fun events, visiting with teachers and doing everything possible to show the love. Basically it was a please-don’t-quit-over-break campaign. It’s a hard time to be a teacher.

Please come and be the principal at the school that I teach at! My principal treats us like we can’t ever do anything right. We never get any type of appreciation except from each other. It really brings us down!

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Anonymous wrote:My DS high school biology teacher isn’t coming back, she was young and I’m not sure why she is going to do with her life now, or she going to go back to mommy and daddy house, but a teacher shouldn’t be allowed to quit halfway though the year. Student loved and her, and to one paragraph email saying you’re quitting isn’t okay in my book.

Maybe parents like you and their kids should have treated her better. It's a job. She has no obligation to stay through the school year and she doesn't owe anyone an explanation as to why.

She has an obligation. If she chooses to break her contract, no, she doesn't need to give an explanation. But if she had a good explanation, she would have given it.

She had NO OBLIGATION and she owes no one an explanation. You entitled parents are pathetic.

All of your attacks on parents in defense of a teacher who quit midyear are hindering, not helping.

My school just lost one over break - maybe if you keep attacking teachers for preserving their own health, she’d have stayed.

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Anonymous wrote:Those who can’t do, teach. This who can’t teach, teach gym.

The irony of this being posted by someone who probably works from home, doing nothing of consequence and moving their mouse just enough so that Microsoft teams doesn’t change their status to “away” is fantastic.