Montgomery County is Elrich country. What to do now

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now lol

I take it that you don’t live in Bethesda. Median sales price is down YoY. A third of houses have price drops. Time on market is increasing. The average home sells at 98% list. This is not a hot housing market.
https://www.redfin.com/city/21534/MD/Bethesda/housing-market

[Anonymous]

Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

Not even that, they don't even know who the citizens are! They only listen to the Twitteratti like Dan Reed, Jane Lyons and all the GGWash online YIMBYs. That's who they think represent the voting public.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya OP. My family is upper middle class so I expect to pay more. But when we were victims of crime twice and when my husband lost his job for several months, there was no one was around to help. What I hate most about the current administration is the amount of $$$ wasted and not accounted for. Yet we keep electing the same people. I feel like there are so many people out there that have no clue what is going on and just vote for the most well known.
What are we going to do? My DD is graduating this year and we are moving out of state so we won’t have to deal with the awful crime.

Don't let the doors hit you on the way out

DP.. So, what happens if all UMC leave MoCo?

MoCo becomes more diverse, and even more desirable!

We’ll never run out of UMC earners to pay for stuff.

Did you actually read? If the UMC tax base leaves MoCo, please tell me how MoCo is going to pay for "stuff"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now lol

I take it that you don’t live in Bethesda. Median sales price is down YoY. A third of houses have price drops. Time on market is increasing. The average home sells at 98% list. This is not a hot housing market.
https://www.redfin.com/city/21534/MD/Bethesda/housing-market

Median sales price is down a whopping 1.1% . Time on the market is up by two whole days! Stop the presses! Everyone is leaving Bethesda! Where are the multitudes moving? Not across the river, I can tell you that, since McLean and Arlington are showing similar catastrophic drops in their housing market.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

Not even that, they don't even know who the citizens are! They only listen to the Twitteratti like Dan Reed, Jane Lyons and all the GGWash online YIMBYs. That's who they think represent the voting public.

Twitter isnt real life. The Dan Reed hyper YIMBYS are obsessed about an issue 75% of Moco wasnt even aware existed. Theyll figure it out fast once Thrive starts being implemented in their backyard, ad we'll see what, if anything happens then.

Reed, Mike English, all the other people who think zoning/housing are the only or most important issues in the world, are like the .001% of the real Montgomery County population who just want jobs, safety, and decent schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now lol

I take it that you don’t live in Bethesda. Median sales price is down YoY. A third of houses have price drops. Time on market is increasing. The average home sells at 98% list. This is not a hot housing market.
https://www.redfin.com/city/21534/MD/Bethesda/housing-market

Median sales price is down a whopping 1.1% . Time on the market is up by two whole days! Stop the presses! Everyone is leaving Bethesda! Where are the multitudes moving? Not across the river, I can tell you that, since McLean and Arlington are showing similar catastrophic drops in their housing market.

+1 not an Elrich fan, but c'mon.. places like CC and Bethesda are still very desirable and home prices reflect that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now lol

I take it that you don’t live in Bethesda. Median sales price is down YoY. A third of houses have price drops. Time on market is increasing. The average home sells at 98% list. This is not a hot housing market.
https://www.redfin.com/city/21534/MD/Bethesda/housing-market

Median sales price is down a whopping 1.1% . Time on the market is up by two whole days! Stop the presses! Everyone is leaving Bethesda! Where are the multitudes moving? Not across the river, I can tell you that, since McLean and Arlington are showing similar catastrophic drops in their housing market.

I do enjoy how you like to put words in my mouth and then construct a strawman. Your claim that “everyone is trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now” is obviously false. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much for hoping that enough Dems would cross over to vote for Sully and send a message. I thought maybe he would get 40-45% like Hogan did.
Nope, Elrich wins with a 72% mandate.

And we have a decisively left wing council. Only Friedson and maybe Katz are moderate. The newcomers like Fani-Gonzalez, Kate Stewart (Takoma Park always having its way) and especially Kristin Mink are just wow.

If you’re a moderate, what do we do now? The county government are soon going to realize they’ll run out of money to woke-ify everything. Have we lost our last chance to hit the reset button and focus on bringing businesses and jobs other than Racial Equity Commissar of Justice Task Force Analyst?

I’m glad that crazy Republicans lost nationally but I’m deeply concerned about the hard left turn locally.

Move across the river. You won't be missed

No worries. We will not miss the TP/SS types, who haven't had a real job in decades. Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers.

Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now lol

I take it that you don’t live in Bethesda. Median sales price is down YoY. A third of houses have price drops. Time on market is increasing. The average home sells at 98% list. This is not a hot housing market.
https://www.redfin.com/city/21534/MD/Bethesda/housing-market

Median sales price is down a whopping 1.1% . Time on the market is up by two whole days! Stop the presses! Everyone is leaving Bethesda! Where are the multitudes moving? Not across the river, I can tell you that, since McLean and Arlington are showing similar catastrophic drops in their housing market.

I do enjoy how you like to put words in my mouth and then construct a strawman. Your claim that “everyone is trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now” is obviously false. Get a life.

LOL every accusation is a confession from you people.

I did not say "Everyone is trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now". I said "Tell that to everyone trying to buy a house in Bethesda right now." YOU said (and this is an exact quote, unlike the words YOU put in MY mouth): "Get real. MoCo is losing its taxpayers." The housing market shows absolutely zero evidence of a mass exodus of taxpayers. In fact many people are desperate to buy homes here which is why on average homes are not sitting on the market. 32 days lol... are you serious? That is nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

Not even that, they don't even know who the citizens are! They only listen to the Twitteratti like Dan Reed, Jane Lyons and all the GGWash online YIMBYs. That's who they think represent the voting public.

Twitter isnt real life. The Dan Reed hyper YIMBYS are obsessed about an issue 75% of Moco wasnt even aware existed. Theyll figure it out fast once Thrive starts being implemented in their backyard, ad we'll see what, if anything happens then.

Reed, Mike English, all the other people who think zoning/housing are the only or most important issues in the world, are like the .001% of the real Montgomery County population who just want jobs, safety, and decent schools.

What’s funny is that the next phase of upzoning will by necessity all come back to Silver Spring once the Purple Line is finished. If the whole point is to increase density at transit stations, there is not much left to do outside of Silver Spring.

Downtown Bethesda = upzoned. Grosvenor = upzoned. White Flint = upzoned. Twinbrook = upzoned. Shady Grove = upzoned. Chevy Chase Lake = upzoned. Lytonnsville = upzoned.

Do you know what has not been upzoned? All of the Purple Line stops in Silver Spring. Takoma Metro Station infill. Forest Glenn Metro Station infill.

Low hanging fruit that need to be addressed before any other zoning changes are approved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

Not even that, they don't even know who the citizens are! They only listen to the Twitteratti like Dan Reed, Jane Lyons and all the GGWash online YIMBYs. That's who they think represent the voting public.

Twitter isnt real life. The Dan Reed hyper YIMBYS are obsessed about an issue 75% of Moco wasnt even aware existed. Theyll figure it out fast once Thrive starts being implemented in their backyard, ad we'll see what, if anything happens then.

Reed, Mike English, all the other people who think zoning/housing are the only or most important issues in the world, are like the .001% of the real Montgomery County population who just want jobs, safety, and decent schools.

What’s funny is that the next phase of upzoning will by necessity all come back to Silver Spring once the Purple Line is finished. If the whole point is to increase density at transit stations, there is not much left to do outside of Silver Spring.

Downtown Bethesda = upzoned. Grosvenor = upzoned. White Flint = upzoned. Twinbrook = upzoned. Shady Grove = upzoned. Chevy Chase Lake = upzoned. Lytonnsville = upzoned.

Do you know what has not been upzoned? All of the Purple Line stops in Silver Spring. Takoma Metro Station infill. Forest Glenn Metro Station infill.

Low hanging fruit that need to be addressed before any other zoning changes are approved.

Then Riemer and his buddies should put their money where their mouth is and allow it in Takoma Park. Revoke the historical designation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

Not even that, they don't even know who the citizens are! They only listen to the Twitteratti like Dan Reed, Jane Lyons and all the GGWash online YIMBYs. That's who they think represent the voting public.

Twitter isnt real life. The Dan Reed hyper YIMBYS are obsessed about an issue 75% of Moco wasnt even aware existed. Theyll figure it out fast once Thrive starts being implemented in their backyard, ad we'll see what, if anything happens then.

Reed, Mike English, all the other people who think zoning/housing are the only or most important issues in the world, are like the .001% of the real Montgomery County population who just want jobs, safety, and decent schools.

What’s funny is that the next phase of upzoning will by necessity all come back to Silver Spring once the Purple Line is finished. If the whole point is to increase density at transit stations, there is not much left to do outside of Silver Spring.

Downtown Bethesda = upzoned. Grosvenor = upzoned. White Flint = upzoned. Twinbrook = upzoned. Shady Grove = upzoned. Chevy Chase Lake = upzoned. Lytonnsville = upzoned.

Do you know what has not been upzoned? All of the Purple Line stops in Silver Spring. Takoma Metro Station infill. Forest Glenn Metro Station infill.

Low hanging fruit that need to be addressed before any other zoning changes are approved.

Then Riemer and his buddies should put their money where their mouth is and allow it in Takoma Park. Revoke the historical designation.

Fun fact, Hans Riemer and his YIMBY buddy George Leventhal helped to torpedo a plan to build housing on the Takoma Metro parking lot in 2007, which is in DC!

They should be required to produce a plan like municipalities are now required to do in California, to produce a thousand units of new MFH with 15% MPDUs within a half-mile the metro station. Let them figure out how they want to do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Elrich is generally pretty terrible, but he showed me something when he at least asked for a sober pause (no pun intended) when the Council rammed Thrive through, less than 2 weeks after the entire planning board resigned in disgrace. That was a new low for the level of the council insulting the citizens.

Friedsen is OK, Katz is fine. Glass is occasionally allright.

Mink is frighteningly bad and incompetent. Kate Stewart was the mayor of Takoma Park so expect TP style politics from her. Natali comes fresh from the planning board, so you know she will rubber stamp all growth be it smart or not. Gabe seems logical, but also went through with the thrive grab.

Jawando is basically always wrong, and does more virtue signaling than even Mink.

Not even that, they don't even know who the citizens are! They only listen to the Twitteratti like Dan Reed, Jane Lyons and all the GGWash online YIMBYs. That's who they think represent the voting public.

Twitter isnt real life. The Dan Reed hyper YIMBYS are obsessed about an issue 75% of Moco wasnt even aware existed. Theyll figure it out fast once Thrive starts being implemented in their backyard, ad we'll see what, if anything happens then.

Reed, Mike English, all the other people who think zoning/housing are the only or most important issues in the world, are like the .001% of the real Montgomery County population who just want jobs, safety, and decent schools.

What’s funny is that the next phase of upzoning will by necessity all come back to Silver Spring once the Purple Line is finished. If the whole point is to increase density at transit stations, there is not much left to do outside of Silver Spring.

Downtown Bethesda = upzoned. Grosvenor = upzoned. White Flint = upzoned. Twinbrook = upzoned. Shady Grove = upzoned. Chevy Chase Lake = upzoned. Lytonnsville = upzoned.

Do you know what has not been upzoned? All of the Purple Line stops in Silver Spring. Takoma Metro Station infill. Forest Glenn Metro Station infill.

Low hanging fruit that need to be addressed before any other zoning changes are approved.

Then Riemer and his buddies should put their money where their mouth is and allow it in Takoma Park. Revoke the historical designation.

Fun fact, Hans Riemer and his YIMBY buddy George Leventhal helped to torpedo a plan to build housing on the Takoma Metro parking lot in 2007, which is in DC!

They should be required to produce a plan like municipalities are now required to do in California, to produce a thousand units of new MFH with 15% MPDUs within a half-mile the metro station. Let them figure out how they want to do it.

What’s amazing is that that’s where they live. Riemer lives in a huge Victorian in the single family historic district. Elrich lives in the more working class ward 5. He actually does have affordable housing and apartment buildings in his backyard.