Montgomery County is Elrich country. What to do now

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich IS a moderate but you're American, so you can't see it. The entire political spectrum is the US goes from extreme right to moderate left. As a European, I know this. I've lived in countries with socialist parties in power.

You have no idea. Please don't whine too much, lest a real left-wing group gain power one day. And if that day comes, you might actually have affordable medications, great healthcare that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and no guns on the street. You might like it.

Nice try but Elrich governs NOTHING like a well organized German Burgermeister. Just look at the cronyism! Look at the declining schools. Look at the groveling he does to the unions. And just wait for your property tax bill. I don’t think he has attracted a single large business to relocate to Moco in four years. That’s damning. He wouldn’t last governing a single day in a well run German town. European Socialism of the Scandinavian or German variety is a thing to behold - but you pay Herr Elric too high a compliment.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a democrat. I did not vote for Elrich in the primary and voted R yesterday to get him out. I guess it didn’t work but I tried. This is why everyone needs to vote.

Given what is going on in this country you are an idiot.
No Republican should have gotten any votes not one!

They can not govern they have crap policies and will destroy us.

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich IS a moderate but you're American, so you can't see it. The entire political spectrum is the US goes from extreme right to moderate left. As a European, I know this. I've lived in countries with socialist parties in power.

You have no idea. Please don't whine too much, lest a real left-wing group gain power one day. And if that day comes, you might actually have affordable medications, great healthcare that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and no guns on the street. You might like it.

Nice try but Elrich governs NOTHING like a well organized German Burgermeister. Just look at the cronyism! Look at the declining schools. Look at the groveling he does to the unions. And just wait for your property tax bill. I don’t think he has attracted a single large business to relocate to Moco in four years. That’s damning. He wouldn’t last governing a single day in a well run German town. European Socialism of the Scandinavian or German variety is a thing to behold - but you pay Herr Elric too high a compliment.

Try again. Given all republicans have accepted NAZISM and FASCiSM. MD did great yesterday!

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya OP. My family is upper middle class so I expect to pay more. But when we were victims of crime twice and when my husband lost his job for several months, there was no one was around to help. What I hate most about the current administration is the amount of $$$ wasted and not accounted for. Yet we keep electing the same people. I feel like there are so many people out there that have no clue what is going on and just vote for the most well known.
What are we going to do? My DD is graduating this year and we are moving out of state so we won’t have to deal with the awful crime.

Don't let the doors hit you on the way out

believe me, even the doors do hit me, I really don't care. you may ok with your tax dollars being used in wasteful ways, but I wasn't.
There is no oversight which is why a couple county employees were caught stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars that we wont ever get back. The millions of dollars given to developers to build affordable housing that still isn't affordable. The amount of time coming up with ridiculous legislation and creating solutions to problems that don't exist. The schools, where my daughter is a straight A student yet she shouldn't be! so come on, you really want 4 years of this? Dig deep in your research and you will be just as surprised and frustrated as I was uncovering how tax dollars are used.

I’m with you. Did similar research and left 3 years ago.

-former 25 year Moco resident

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich IS a moderate but you're American, so you can't see it. The entire political spectrum is the US goes from extreme right to moderate left. As a European, I know this. I've lived in countries with socialist parties in power.

You have no idea. Please don't whine too much, lest a real left-wing group gain power one day. And if that day comes, you might actually have affordable medications, great healthcare that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and no guns on the street. You might like it.

Nice try but Elrich governs NOTHING like a well organized German Burgermeister. Just look at the cronyism! Look at the declining schools. Look at the groveling he does to the unions. And just wait for your property tax bill. I don’t think he has attracted a single large business to relocate to Moco in four years. That’s damning. He wouldn’t last governing a single day in a well run German town. European Socialism of the Scandinavian or German variety is a thing to behold - but you pay Herr Elric too high a compliment.

Try again. Given all republicans have accepted NAZISM and FASCiSM. MD did great yesterday!

false premise

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya OP. My family is upper middle class so I expect to pay more. But when we were victims of crime twice and when my husband lost his job for several months, there was no one was around to help. What I hate most about the current administration is the amount of $$$ wasted and not accounted for. Yet we keep electing the same people. I feel like there are so many people out there that have no clue what is going on and just vote for the most well known.
What are we going to do? My DD is graduating this year and we are moving out of state so we won’t have to deal with the awful crime.

Don't let the doors hit you on the way out

DP.. So, what happens if all UMC leave MoCo?

No one’s leaving.

Indeed. Where would you go anyway?

The obvious choice is to move to Virginia to be closer to your job.

LOL. Brilliant and true.

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play stupid games win stupid prizes. enjoy your higher taxes

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya OP. My family is upper middle class so I expect to pay more. But when we were victims of crime twice and when my husband lost his job for several months, there was no one was around to help. What I hate most about the current administration is the amount of $$$ wasted and not accounted for. Yet we keep electing the same people. I feel like there are so many people out there that have no clue what is going on and just vote for the most well known.
What are we going to do? My DD is graduating this year and we are moving out of state so we won’t have to deal with the awful crime.

Don't let the doors hit you on the way out

DP.. So, what happens if all UMC leave MoCo?

Doesn't it get dull posting the same thing over and over and over and over, year upon year? We know, the sky is falling.

DP but the economic outlook is not improving, it is going the other way. The county is effectively becoming an active living retirement community with large and growing poverty. This is not a recipe for success.

That’s my concern, too. I feel we would be in a different position if people were aware and educated.

We need to attract business. A tax base. As it is, we actively repel the very opportunities we need. Our county council will be busy issuing proclamations while neighboring counties are attracting businesses and creating income.

That's not what people care about. They want to create little bandaid programs that aid vulnerable communities so that they feel like (mostly white) saviors. Nobody has the intelligence, vision, or spine to really create the economic framework we need to provide a robust economy that in turn provides real career opportunities to people from very diverse walks of life.

This is part of the problem and for those that dont think rich folks won't leave, they will and they are. My neighborhood has had 4 houses turn over. Schools and crime were the reasons they left. 2 to Virginia and 2 to Frederick. We are leaving in 2 years due to being directly impacted by crime. Twice. I hate it. I wish we could leave sooner. We contribute a lot to the tax base. We care for our properties. We are environmentally conscious and educated. We eat out a lot and spend $$$ at local businesses. If the county doesn't worry about people like me leaving they are more delusional than I thought.

Nope, the county doesn't and should not care about people like you moving. Neither do I.
I volunteer to help you packing.

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It’s time to move, and may I say bravo to everyone who did do the responsible thing and move out of MoCo to save their families. Let’s all remember to be responsible though when we do relocate to places like Virginia and Frederick and not vote in politicians with MoCo-style politics. I know in Frederick they are working very hard to avoid becoming “MoCo Lite” and we should respect that!

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich IS a moderate but you're American, so you can't see it. The entire political spectrum is the US goes from extreme right to moderate left. As a European, I know this. I've lived in countries with socialist parties in power.

You have no idea. Please don't whine too much, lest a real left-wing group gain power one day. And if that day comes, you might actually have affordable medications, great healthcare that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and no guns on the street. You might like it.

I agree 100% with what you said. I too am European. However, I am older now and a lot more moderate. If Republicans could put forward moderate candidates and tamper their stance on social issues (abortion and gun control being the two big ones), I would vote Republican even though I have only ever voted Democrat up until now. If I liked the socialist system in Europe, I would have stayed in Europe. I did not come to the US to pay 50%+ of my income in taxes and get crime and crappy schools in return.

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Anonymous wrote:Elrich IS a moderate but you're American, so you can't see it. The entire political spectrum is the US goes from extreme right to moderate left. As a European, I know this. I've lived in countries with socialist parties in power.

You have no idea. Please don't whine too much, lest a real left-wing group gain power one day. And if that day comes, you might actually have affordable medications, great healthcare that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and no guns on the street. You might like it.

I agree 100% with what you said. I too am European. However, I am older now and a lot more moderate. If Republicans could put forward moderate candidates and change their stance on social issues (abortion and gun control being the two big ones), I would vote Republican even though I have only ever voted Democrat up until now. If I liked the socialist system in Europe, I would have stayed in Europe. I did not come to the US to pay 50%+ of my income in taxes and get crime and crappy schools in return.

*change, not tamper

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing you can do to limit or minimize the potential harm is to engage them frequently on focus on fiscal responsibility. You need to both write your officials frequently and encourage others to do so as well to remind them that fiscal responsibility is critically important for the future of this county. In local politics, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, so you need to be active and make sure others are as well providing frequent reminders.

Exactly. Get active in politics. Invite them to your neighborhood association or hold a fundraiser. Just be prepared to get loud if you need to, because niceties will get you nowhere. These are people who demonstrate - you may need to do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:Step 1: Stop putting your hopes on the general election. Only Democrats win County Executive in MoCo. The time to make a change was in the primary.

Step 2: Identify the issues that actually impact you personally, and speak to your elected officials about those issues.

Step 3: If it is so bad that you'd rather live in a more "balanced" jurisdiction, then move there. Personally I like places run by people who don't hate transgender people and support abortion rights, so I'm pretty thankful to be living here.

This is a new poster. PP, I am pro choice and support transgender people, but I don’t like to see my quality of life decline because the Council wants to give more freebies away. The entitlement mentality in MoCo is astounding.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a democrat. I did not vote for Elrich in the primary and voted R yesterday to get him out. I guess it didn’t work but I tried. This is why everyone needs to vote.

Ditto.

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Anonymous wrote:I hear ya OP. My family is upper middle class so I expect to pay more. But when we were victims of crime twice and when my husband lost his job for several months, there was no one was around to help. What I hate most about the current administration is the amount of $$$ wasted and not accounted for. Yet we keep electing the same people. I feel like there are so many people out there that have no clue what is going on and just vote for the most well known.
What are we going to do? My DD is graduating this year and we are moving out of state so we won’t have to deal with the awful crime.

Don't let the doors hit you on the way out

DP.. So, what happens if all UMC leave MoCo?

Doesn't it get dull posting the same thing over and over and over and over, year upon year? We know, the sky is falling.

DP but the economic outlook is not improving, it is going the other way. The county is effectively becoming an active living retirement community with large and growing poverty. This is not a recipe for success.

That’s my concern, too. I feel we would be in a different position if people were aware and educated.

We need to attract business. A tax base. As it is, we actively repel the very opportunities we need. Our county council will be busy issuing proclamations while neighboring counties are attracting businesses and creating income.

That's not what people care about. They want to create little bandaid programs that aid vulnerable communities so that they feel like (mostly white) saviors. Nobody has the intelligence, vision, or spine to really create the economic framework we need to provide a robust economy that in turn provides real career opportunities to people from very diverse walks of life.

Boom. You’ve got it.