City councilwoman wants traffic cameras to dole out points, along with hefty fines

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"why should we give deference to suburban commuters on our roads "

Those same suburban commuters your deputy mayor has been begging to get back into downtown DC offices because the city needs their tax revenue?

Crime in DC should be your focus not shaking down drivers who are contributing to your economy.

HAHA oh sweetie. How many people do you think come in their own cars vs on the metro? Please, do the math for me.

If you don’t want to, then you’ll just have to take my word for it that we could literally seal off all the bridges and borders, never let another VA/MD car into the city and would barely notice the impact.

Suburban commuter car brain is really something.

You must not live in the city. It is a complete s&$#show every morning and evening on every bridge into the city during rush hour. I can't even take this seriously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She must want to lose her seat when re-election comes up. People will not go for this, even though they need to figure out how to stop the traffic accidents and deaths.

Nope. Non drivers in DC are sick of being shlt upon by drivers and the craven cowardly politicians like Muriel Bowser who cater to them. Non drivers are sick and tired of risking their lives simply crossing the street or walking their kids to school.

Dangerous drivers have been operating with impunity in DC for their deadly behavior for generations and the rest of us are going to end this once and for all.

DC streets are quite safe.

24 people have died this year in accidents. Out of tens of millions of trips. There's been more than 100 times as many violent crimes in this city.

Yet somehow people act like 24 is a huge number, and nearly 3,000 (the number of violent crimes so far this year) is a small number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She must want to lose her seat when re-election comes up. People will not go for this, even though they need to figure out how to stop the traffic accidents and deaths.

Nope. Non drivers in DC are sick of being shlt upon by drivers and the craven cowardly politicians like Muriel Bowser who cater to them. Non drivers are sick and tired of risking their lives simply crossing the street or walking their kids to school.

Dangerous drivers have been operating with impunity in DC for their deadly behavior for generations and the rest of us are going to end this once and for all.

DC streets are quite safe.

24 people have died this year in accidents. Out of tens of millions of trips. There's been more than 100 times as many violent crimes in this city.

Yet somehow people act like 24 is a huge number, and nearly 3,000 (the number of violent crimes so far this year) is a small number.

The over-the-top rhetoric around how supposedly unsafe the streets are is kind of bizarre. It's not borne out by the numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She must want to lose her seat when re-election comes up. People will not go for this, even though they need to figure out how to stop the traffic accidents and deaths.

Nope. Non drivers in DC are sick of being shlt upon by drivers and the craven cowardly politicians like Muriel Bowser who cater to them. Non drivers are sick and tired of risking their lives simply crossing the street or walking their kids to school.

Dangerous drivers have been operating with impunity in DC for their deadly behavior for generations and the rest of us are going to end this once and for all.

DC streets are quite safe.

24 people have died this year in accidents. Out of tens of millions of trips. There's been more than 100 times as many violent crimes in this city.

Yet somehow people act like 24 is a huge number, and nearly 3,000 (the number of violent crimes so far this year) is a small number.

The over-the-top rhetoric around how supposedly unsafe the streets are is kind of bizarre. It's not borne out by the numbers.

Number of deaths is not the only metric for safety. If a car fails to yield to me in the crosswalk (which is unsafe), the police aren’t going to take a report on it. They don’t always take reports of someone is hit if the injury is minor.

Maybe equating safety to deaths works for you but not for most people.

[Anonymous]

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"why should we give deference to suburban commuters on our roads "

Those same suburban commuters your deputy mayor has been begging to get back into downtown DC offices because the city needs their tax revenue?

Crime in DC should be your focus not shaking down drivers who are contributing to your economy.

HAHA oh sweetie. How many people do you think come in their own cars vs on the metro? Please, do the math for me.

If you don’t want to, then you’ll just have to take my word for it that we could literally seal off all the bridges and borders, never let another VA/MD car into the city and would barely notice the impact.

Suburban commuter car brain is really something.

LOL. You got jokes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She must want to lose her seat when re-election comes up. People will not go for this, even though they need to figure out how to stop the traffic accidents and deaths.

Nope. Non drivers in DC are sick of being shlt upon by drivers and the craven cowardly politicians like Muriel Bowser who cater to them. Non drivers are sick and tired of risking their lives simply crossing the street or walking their kids to school.

Dangerous drivers have been operating with impunity in DC for their deadly behavior for generations and the rest of us are going to end this once and for all.

DC streets are quite safe.

24 people have died this year in accidents. Out of tens of millions of trips. There's been more than 100 times as many violent crimes in this city.

Yet somehow people act like 24 is a huge number, and nearly 3,000 (the number of violent crimes so far this year) is a small number.

The over-the-top rhetoric around how supposedly unsafe the streets are is kind of bizarre. It's not borne out by the numbers.

Number of deaths is not the only metric for safety. If a car fails to yield to me in the crosswalk (which is unsafe), the police aren’t going to take a report on it. They don’t always take reports of someone is hit if the injury is minor.

Maybe equating safety to deaths works for you but not for most people.

It's not the only metric, but it's the most important one (and the other metrics don't justify the screaming rhetoric about unsafe streets either).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of studies showing traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers. This would be doubling down on that.

+1, it’s blatant, naked racism.

How do the cameras know the race of the driver?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did she get elected with this type of thinking? One should wonder.

Because the voters who actually live here and deal with the crazy MD/VA drivers speeding recklessly through our neighborhoods day in/day out are strongly supportive. All the whining and moaning is coming from people who don’t live or vote in DC. Drive the speed limit or stay tf out of our city, I could not possibly feel less sympathy for you.

Perhaps here cameras will get the ATV drivers that make our city so livable.

ATVs are different because that's DC cultural heritage and protected status.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How did she get elected with this type of thinking? One should wonder.

Because the voters who actually live here and deal with the crazy MD/VA drivers speeding recklessly through our neighborhoods day in/day out are strongly supportive. All the whining and moaning is coming from people who don’t live or vote in DC. Drive the speed limit or stay tf out of our city, I could not possibly feel less sympathy for you.

Perhaps here cameras will get the ATV drivers that make our city so livable.

ATVs are different because that's DC cultural heritage and protected status.

Maybe we could just have the ATVs ride in the bike lanes...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a lot of studies showing traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers. This would be doubling down on that.

+1, it’s blatant, naked racism.

How do the cameras know the race of the driver?

Black drivers have lower incomes and less ability to pay tickets.

[Anonymous]

This is an excellent way to replace lost tax revenue from fleeing families and businesses. Assuming you all can actually collect fines from all the scofflaws in DC (including MD drivers) anyways. Oh and make sure not to giggle when your Uber driver sees the red light camera flash, you end up with a 1 star passenger rating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She must want to lose her seat when re-election comes up. People will not go for this, even though they need to figure out how to stop the traffic accidents and deaths.

Nope. Non drivers in DC are sick of being shlt upon by drivers and the craven cowardly politicians like Muriel Bowser who cater to them. Non drivers are sick and tired of risking their lives simply crossing the street or walking their kids to school.

Dangerous drivers have been operating with impunity in DC for their deadly behavior for generations and the rest of us are going to end this once and for all.

DC streets are quite safe.

24 people have died this year in accidents. Out of tens of millions of trips. There's been more than 100 times as many violent crimes in this city.

Yet somehow people act like 24 is a huge number, and nearly 3,000 (the number of violent crimes so far this year) is a small number.

Wait … like 24 bicyclists / pedestrians have been killed in DC this year? Because if so, that’s appalling. The number should be zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She must want to lose her seat when re-election comes up. People will not go for this, even though they need to figure out how to stop the traffic accidents and deaths.

Nope. Non drivers in DC are sick of being shlt upon by drivers and the craven cowardly politicians like Muriel Bowser who cater to them. Non drivers are sick and tired of risking their lives simply crossing the street or walking their kids to school.

Dangerous drivers have been operating with impunity in DC for their deadly behavior for generations and the rest of us are going to end this once and for all.

DC streets are quite safe.

24 people have died this year in accidents. Out of tens of millions of trips. There's been more than 100 times as many violent crimes in this city.

Yet somehow people act like 24 is a huge number, and nearly 3,000 (the number of violent crimes so far this year) is a small number.

Wait … like 24 bicyclists / pedestrians have been killed in DC this year? Because if so, that’s appalling. The number should be zero.

No. 3 cyclists have died and 13 pedestrians have died. However that speaks nothing to the underlying cause and circumstances.