White tie early in the day?

[Anonymous]

I have been to several white tie events that were not only in the am, but also at embassies. It's kind of sad how few people here really even know protocol on white tie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

I would’ve asked to clarify further. White tie is not a tuxedo, it’s tails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High noon is ok for white tie, otherwise not.

White tie is properly worn after 6 pm.

I thought it was after 8 pm. And means tails. Black tie is after 6.

You are correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:High noon is ok for white tie, otherwise not.

White tie is properly worn after 6 pm.

I thought it was after 8 pm. And means tails. Black tie is after 6.

Honestly, nobody cares anymore. Such nonsense.

Yes, people do care. White tie and tails at 12 am in a bar. Is akin to mules I. Horse's harness. It is pretentious ànd screams polyester manners.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been to several white tie events that were not only in the am, but also at embassies. It's kind of sad how few people here really even know protocol on white tie.

A formal event at an embassy is hardly comparable to a farm wedding.

Here is a link to the many many rules of white tie, which I'm sure the bride and groom will not follow.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/white-tie-dress-code

From the article, here is a description of when white tie is used: (bolded by me)

"If you thought black tie was formal, you are in for a shock. White tie is the undisputed champion of formality. In a bygone era it was the standard dress of a formal event. For example, the opening night of an opera. But in these more liberal, modern times it is a rarity and only seen at royal, state or livery ceremonies, balls or banquets. Not even the Royal Box at Ascot requires traditional white tie."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

I would’ve asked to clarify further. White tie is not a tuxedo, it’s tails.

Op here, I’m aware. I didn’t want to ask anymore questions because she seemed really annoyed that I was calling to begin with. And there was no way for me to say “but that’s not white tie” without sounding like an ass. So we shall see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

I would’ve asked to clarify further. White tie is not a tuxedo, it’s tails.

Op here, I’m aware. I didn’t want to ask anymore questions because she seemed really annoyed that I was calling to begin with. And there was no way for me to say “but that’s not white tie” without sounding like an ass. So we shall see.

Good luck. Not even the British Royal Family wears white (or black) tie to weddings. Its day dresses and hats for women, and morning coats or uniforms for men.

[Anonymous]

God, I'm so embarrassed for these people. You can easily Google what any of these terms mean. When you asked correctly and she said "tuxedo...." I just died a little inside for her.

They are going to so much effort to be "fancy", and it's so misguided. Like in legally blind when the manicurists curtesies when she is meeting the judge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God, I'm so embarrassed for these people. You can easily Google what any of these terms mean. When you asked correctly and she said "tuxedo...." I just died a little inside for her.

They are going to so much effort to be "fancy", and it's so misguided. Like in legally blind when the manicurists curtesies when she is meeting the judge.

"Blind"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God, I'm so embarrassed for these people. You can easily Google what any of these terms mean. When you asked correctly and she said "tuxedo...." I just died a little inside for her.

They are going to so much effort to be "fancy", and it's so misguided. Like in legally blind when the manicurists curtesies when she is meeting the judge.

"Blind"

BLOND

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

I would’ve asked to clarify further. White tie is not a tuxedo, it’s tails.

Op here, I’m aware. I didn’t want to ask anymore questions because she seemed really annoyed that I was calling to begin with. And there was no way for me to say “but that’s not white tie” without sounding like an ass. So we shall see.

Good luck. Not even the British Royal Family wears white (or black) tie to weddings. Its day dresses and hats for women, and morning coats or uniforms for men.

British royals get married in the morning, by tradition, so it's morning coats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God, I'm so embarrassed for these people. You can easily Google what any of these terms mean. When you asked correctly and she said "tuxedo...." I just died a little inside for her.

They are going to so much effort to be "fancy", and it's so misguided. Like in legally blind when the manicurists curtesies when she is meeting the judge.

"Blind"

BLOND

Now I want to watch Legally Blonde again. Jennifer Coolidge!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

Tuxedos are not white tie. A dinner jacket is black tie.

White tie is different.

OP knows that, MOB clearly does not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

I would’ve asked to clarify further. White tie is not a tuxedo, it’s tails.

Op here, I’m aware. I didn’t want to ask anymore questions because she seemed really annoyed that I was calling to begin with. And there was no way for me to say “but that’s not white tie” without sounding like an ass. So we shall see.

Good luck. Not even the British Royal Family wears white (or black) tie to weddings. Its day dresses and hats for women, and morning coats or uniforms for men.

British royals get married in the morning, by tradition, so it's morning coats.

The wedding OP is attending is at 11am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here,

Reached out today to the mother of the bride. She said “it is white tie, so tuxedos and long dresses”. I said “okay, thank you so much for letting me know!”

I messaged another of DH’s cousins to see what they are wearing.

As for the comments about the dress I posted, I took the advice to wear something long. I never said I was dead set on that particular dress just that I had it and it fit the criteria of “garden party”.

I would’ve asked to clarify further. White tie is not a tuxedo, it’s tails.

Op here, I’m aware. I didn’t want to ask anymore questions because she seemed really annoyed that I was calling to begin with. And there was no way for me to say “but that’s not white tie” without sounding like an ass. So we shall see.

Good luck. Not even the British Royal Family wears white (or black) tie to weddings. Its day dresses and hats for women, and morning coats or uniforms for men.

British royals get married in the morning, by tradition, so it's morning coats.

Well, the BRF typcially reserves white tie for state dinners. Will there be heads of government or reigning monarchs at the wedding OP is attending?