Out of State students at your State U

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Anonymous wrote:How do you feel about out of state students taking up seats at State U while qualified in state university students are turned away? I think it must be hard on parents who pay taxes to support their state university only to find that their own child is turned away in favor of someone else’s childWho doesn’t pay taxes to support that same university.

Those OOS students help keep your In state costs lower. Take UVA for example: OOS tuition is ~$34K more than in state. That is HUGE for revenue for the school, since most OOS students are full pay (state schools are not known for merit awards across the board). That is why most state schools do take 20% (or a bit more) from OOS. Without it, your tuition wouldn't be $22K. It would be significantly higher.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

And that's why everyone from Illinois apparently goes to Alabama, which gives excellent merit for OOS students.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

My niece is graduating from a Chicago area high school this year. She's headed to University of Iowa. She was a "high average" student and even so, it was cheaper for her to go there than it was for her to go to UIUC.

university of iowanted a fast acceptance letter

lol

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

Usually when people complain about rural isolated schools they aren’t talking about large college towns with regular public transit

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

Usually when people complain about rural isolated schools they aren’t talking about large college towns with regular public transit

I agree that this isn't a rural college with only 2K student type of school. But UofI is still in a rural area; it's not urban. Very different than say UW Madison or UM Ann Arbor. Outside of the Chicago area the state of IL is rural---been there, done that, lived there, have relatives still living there. So yes, Champaign/Urbana is a "vibrant" college town due to over 40K students (grad and undergrad), it is only a college town and still a 2 hour drive from Chicago, with farms being the only thing in between. There is nothing around them except the college town.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like it's good to have out of state students so my kids can be exposed to students from other places.

Plus many of those students will return home and spread the reputation of State U.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

There’s an entire U of I campus in Chicago! And SIUE is 30 minutes from St. Louis!

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

And that's why everyone from Illinois apparently goes to Alabama, which gives excellent merit for OOS students.

Where do they get all the money for the merit? I can't imagine AL's state treasury has deep pockets, or it's state legislature prioritizes ed funding.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

There’s an entire U of I campus in Chicago! And SIUE is 30 minutes from St. Louis!

DOn't know many who want to go to St Louis area. The UofI campus in Chicago does not have the same programs as UIUC. Just pointing out that Illinois doesn't have what VA has or CA or WA or NY/etc. Those states have tons of good in state options (agree that CA the good ones are difficult to get into, but there are alot of them at various levels)

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

And that's why everyone from Illinois apparently goes to Alabama, which gives excellent merit for OOS students.

Where do they get all the money for the merit? I can't imagine AL's state treasury has deep pockets, or it's state legislature prioritizes ed funding.

Are you unaware of all the deep-pocketed Alabama alumni? They are very loyal and give generously.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

There’s an entire U of I campus in Chicago! And SIUE is 30 minutes from St. Louis!

DOn't know many who want to go to St Louis area. The UofI campus in Chicago does not have the same programs as UIUC. Just pointing out that Illinois doesn't have what VA has or CA or WA or NY/etc. Those states have tons of good in state options (agree that CA the good ones are difficult to get into, but there are alot of them at various levels)

St. Louis University and Wash U were very popular for students at my Chicago area high school.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not a great situation in Illinois. There's only one very highly regarded option, it's pretty expensive even in-state, and they let in lots of out of state students to cover the shortfall in funding because it's been underfunded by the state. They give virtually no merit aid.

48.4 percent of Illinois public high school graduates enrolled in four-year universities in 2017 attended out-of-state institutions.

Maybe that's because while UofI is highly rated (and yes, is extremely difficult to get into especially for engineering/CS), there are no real choices other than UofI. The other state schools are at a much lower level of academics. Also, many students may just want to get out of Illinois, or more specifically don't want to attend school in a rural, isolated area (Have lived in Illinois, have relatives in those rural areas, so I speak from experience)
Maybe they want an urban area. Or maybe they just don't want to attend such a large university with 34K undergrads. If they want smaller and/or more urban, there really are not any viable state choices in Illinois.

Usually when people complain about rural isolated schools they aren’t talking about large college towns with regular public transit

I agree that this isn't a rural college with only 2K student type of school. But UofI is still in a rural area; it's not urban. Very different than say UW Madison or UM Ann Arbor. Outside of the Chicago area the state of IL is rural---been there, done that, lived there, have relatives still living there. So yes, Champaign/Urbana is a "vibrant" college town due to over 40K students (grad and undergrad), it is only a college town and still a 2 hour drive from Chicago, with farms being the only thing in between. There is nothing around them except the college town.

that's why so many go to that booming metropolis of *checks notes* Iowa City. Or West Lafayette. Or Oxford, OH. Yeah, that's it.

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I am from Georgia, and we wondered if the OOS people at the non flagship schools weren't smart enough to be accepted in their own state.

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Anonymous wrote:I am from Georgia, and we wondered if the OOS people at the non flagship schools weren't smart enough to be accepted in their own state.

would there be something wrong with it if they weren't?