Should Northeastern be T20? Or even T10?

[Anonymous]

It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Some truth to what OP is saying. Happened to me this weekend.

Me: My kid goes to Northwestern
Friend: You mean the one down in Boston. Heard they got co-ops.
Me: No, the one near Chicago
Friend: Oh...Haven't heard of that

Granted my friend is confused. But I am wondering if it is Northwestern going down or Northeastern going up.

It's just that your friend doesn't really know that much about universities. NW has been a top 20 school for over 30 years. But since it's not in the Northeast, some may not have heard about it. But I can assure you anyone that has actually done 15 mins of research on schools knows it's a top school

General public don't suddenly spend 15 min researching colleges until it's time to go to a college

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP is ridiculous. But I’ll add that we’re in Boston visiting family and visiting colleges. We’re staying in a nice hotel in Back Bay that has leased several floors to Northeastern. For 5 days we’ve seen these kids get off and on the elevator and walking around the hotel and local area. And even our 17 yr old DS noted that we did not see one kid talk, smile, converse, NOTHING. They get on and off the elevator, never acknowledge or greet each other. I literally did not hear one of their voices in a week’s time. And their diet was mostly fast food from Uber eats (from a delivery table in the lobby). DH was angry on their parents’ behalf for spending the money to send these kids to college and they all seem borderline depressed. We started the Northeastern campus tour and DS concluded the kids on campus were about the same we’d seen at the hotel. On the bright side, DS liked BU & BC.

I’ll add with all the coming and going of students and coops and the guessing at resident numbers, hotel and other temporary housing is not unusual (and typically undesirable).

[Anonymous]

As the parent of a kid who is likely heading to Northeastern in the fall, this thread has been a fun read...

What he likes about the school it is location in Boston, and the opportunities offered by the Co-op program. While its true that other colleges can offer something at least superficially similar, no one else has really integrated the system into its curriculum and education model the way Northeastern has. Because (almost) everyone participates, it doesn't segregate out groups of kids from the general student population. And it gives kids a structured way to get very good professional experience while in college. For the right kid, it seems like an excellent fit. He has also been admitted to the Honors program, which offers some additional benefits.

For what its worth, the students by kid has talked to on campus seem very happy and pumped about the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

According to Niche, it's #6 in the Boston area

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No skin in the Northeastern game, but I do not like their first semester study abroad policy. Wierd way to start college.

Yup! Now they are expanding their "Full first year study abroad" program (NUBound). Really not good, as the only locations are London and Mills College (Oakland CA). NEU has rebranded the Mills location as NUBound Bay Area---in late March, after their marketing team realized it wasn't attractive for most kids to want to go to college in Oakland, CA. But for prospective CS majors, they MUST go to Oakland. Engineers have to go to London, but they don't even offer calculus 3 and Diff EQ. My own kid won't be attending, as kid doesn't want to in essence be a transfer student for 2nd year. But it's a brilliant marketing plan---go on the FB parents page for NUIn and NUBound and you will see that there are some parents who are complaining (rightly so) that the program doesn't offer the classes their kid needs, so they will be at least a semester behind, that it's costly ($75K for London and that's without any meals), oh and until 2 weeks ago, the NUBound were not ever allowed to live on campus (now they are). But yeah, go overseas for a year with 200 people, hope you like those 200 people because you are gonna have to pick who you live with 2nd year from these people cause you don't know anyone else, find an off campus apartment in Boston with people you barely know from 4K miles away.

But it's amazing the number of parents rightly complaining about all the flaws of the program, yet are still desperate to commit to NEU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

According to Niche, it's #6 in the Boston area

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

Wellsely is women's college, so #5 for boys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

According to Niche, it's #6 in the Boston area

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

"in Boston" not "in the Boston area" was the joke.

- np

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No skin in the Northeastern game, but I do not like their first semester study abroad policy. Wierd way to start college.

Yup! Now they are expanding their "Full first year study abroad" program (NUBound). Really not good, as the only locations are London and Mills College (Oakland CA). NEU has rebranded the Mills location as NUBound Bay Area---in late March, after their marketing team realized it wasn't attractive for most kids to want to go to college in Oakland, CA. But for prospective CS majors, they MUST go to Oakland. Engineers have to go to London, but they don't even offer calculus 3 and Diff EQ. My own kid won't be attending, as kid doesn't want to in essence be a transfer student for 2nd year. But it's a brilliant marketing plan---go on the FB parents page for NUIn and NUBound and you will see that there are some parents who are complaining (rightly so) that the program doesn't offer the classes their kid needs, so they will be at least a semester behind, that it's costly ($75K for London and that's without any meals), oh and until 2 weeks ago, the NUBound were not ever allowed to live on campus (now they are). But yeah, go overseas for a year with 200 people, hope you like those 200 people because you are gonna have to pick who you live with 2nd year from these people cause you don't know anyone else, find an off campus apartment in Boston with people you barely know from 4K miles away.

But it's amazing the number of parents rightly complaining about all the flaws of the program, yet are still desperate to commit to NEU.

It's weired people just pick on Northeasern.
It's a pretty common program everywhere.
Also a lot of schools accept bunch of tranfer students. It' basicall same as that.

Even UVA has one
https://uvaglobalfirst.as.virginia.edu/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has no supplemental essay on the common app which is why they get so many applications.

Schools like Case Western also has no supplemental essay, and even higher ranked.
Why it doesn't get as many applications, lower acceptance rate, and higher yeild rate

Cleveland vs Boston. Really easy to sell Boston to HS students as an amazing place to spend 4 years. Case's location really doesn't help it.

Also, Case is 80% STem/Eng/Premed, much smaller population with non-stem areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Colleges shouldn’t be ranked at all. It’s a ridiculous waste of time and it says nothing about what the college experience is at any given school. Northeastern is a prime example of a university where the president figured out how the ratings game is played. He convinced his board where to invest their financial resources and they rose in the rankings. Good for him. He played the game well.

I bet that if you compared almost any campus today, you’ll find that it’s had a face lift compared to what it looked like compared to 30 years ago. There have been lots of investments in facilities in recent years. Sometimes for better. Sometimes for worse. Judge each on its own merits and how it enhances the core mission of the university.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has no supplemental essay on the common app which is why they get so many applications.

Schools like Case Western also has no supplemental essay, and even higher ranked.
Why it doesn't get as many applications, lower acceptance rate, and higher yeild rate

Cleveland vs Boston. Really easy to sell Boston to HS students as an amazing place to spend 4 years. Case's location really doesn't help it.

Also, Case is 80% STem/Eng/Premed, much smaller population with non-stem areas.

But Case is a GEM and 1000x better school than NEU for STEM/Eng/Premed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

According to Niche, it's #6 in the Boston area

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

"in Boston" not "in the Boston area" was the joke.

- np

How about Boston Metro Area as the link says.

Is that good for your standard?

[Anonymous]

The first year study abroad is for weak academic students. That is why the school does not break down the scores for the participants.