Women who have affairs w/ men they know are married

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The desire for financial security/upgrade is a strong primal motivator in women that is always going to override any niceties about moral character. Encourage your daughters to be financially independent.

This is also true of men they just exercise it on each other not on women most of the time. Many many men are unscrupulous when it comes to money. For women that path just happens to run through men some of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

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They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

Are you nuts! The co-cheater is equally to blame. They are knowingly sneaking around, and doing damage to the spouse and kids. If they are not to blame why don't they show up at his actual home, and call him around dinner time. If the OW isn't doing anything wrong, or to be ashamed of... So if I call the APs boss, friends and family I'm not to blame for making her life miserable either...right!

Look lady, you're seriously unhinged. It's obvious why you're being cheated on.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

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They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

Keep on performing those mental gymnastics. There isn't a sliding scale. Oh wow---they aren't doing something to damage their own kids or spouse---just someone else's. Phew--that's a relief.

You really are sick in the head.

Here's something, do better. How about trying not to lack character or do harm at any level?

Do you try to avoid doing harm at any level? Or do you just feel that, in the proportion of the huge harm you believe cheaters and APs do, any harm you do is insignificant?

[Anonymous]

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The desire for financial security/upgrade is a strong primal motivator in women that is always going to override any niceties about moral character. Encourage your daughters to be financially independent.

This is also true of men they just exercise it on each other not on women most of the time. Many many men are unscrupulous when it comes to money. For women that path just happens to run through men some of the time.

Accurate.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

Loyalty? Who the hell thinks of it that way? "The AP has no integrity or empathy". Fixed it for you. Anyone in an affair, married or not does not have good character. They know what they are doing is wrong and will harm someone. And, let's be real, all of these people are wishing for the spouse to get out of the picture, even if it is via death, illness or divorce so they can have that loser cheater all to themselves. Hardly the thoughts of a kind soul.

BINGO!! Some even leave direct clues so the spouse will find out.

It helps the OW/OM to only think of the AP's spouse/children in the abstract. They aren't 'real people' to them. It allows them to act in ways unbefitting of anyone that is a decent, empathetic person. People in affairs (both parties) have a lot of means to compartmentalize and justify things that they know are wrong or not morally acceptable as you can see with the way they have responded on this thread.

People have stated facts: if you knowingly enter into an adulterous affair (either party) you lack character and integrity. That's a fact. IF you don't want people to know that you routinely 'date' married people, you obviously know what you are doing is wrong even if you have said no vows. And, what does it matter if you are 10% wrong or 50% wrong, etc., you are still wrong. If it makes you feel better to only be 10% party to someone's pain to continue your nefarious ways, carry on.

If they aren't real people and they have never met them or seen them IRL, it's very easy to make yourself believe they do not exist.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

Keep on performing those mental gymnastics. There isn't a sliding scale. Oh wow---they aren't doing something to damage their own kids or spouse---just someone else's. Phew--that's a relief.

You really are sick in the head.

Here's something, do better. How about trying not to lack character or do harm at any level?

Do you try to avoid doing harm at any level? Or do you just feel that, in the proportion of the huge harm you believe cheaters and APs do, any harm you do is insignificant?

Harm people? Yes. I 100% try to avoid it. I also teach my kids the same thing.

I'm not going to steal, rob or cheat. I'm not going to gossip or cut in line or falsify documents. I'm not going to take food from someone else.

You know the simple adage: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It's the Golden Rule.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

It's not binary. It can be the fault of both cheating spouse *and* the affair partner. Even if it's more the fault of the cheating spouse, that doesn't mean the affair partner is somehow not a piece of shit who is hurting someone.

I guess we need to agree to disagree sweetie. If my spouse were to have an affair, the I would not feel harmed by their affair partner or feel the AP was at fault in anyway. It would be 100% the fault of my cheating spouse.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

It's not binary. It can be the fault of both cheating spouse *and* the affair partner. Even if it's more the fault of the cheating spouse, that doesn't mean the affair partner is somehow not a piece of shit who is hurting someone.

I guess we need to agree to disagree sweetie. If my spouse were to have an affair, the I would not feel harmed by their affair partner or feel the AP was at fault in anyway. It would be 100% the fault of my cheating spouse.

+1. It has happened to me. Do I think the OW is a selfish a**hole? Yes. She suuuucks. But the anger I feel at her does not compare to the pain and trauma of being betrayed by my ex-husband. He’s the one that lied to me, over and over again. He’s the one that came into our marital bed and exposed me to whatever diseases she could have had while I trusted him. He’s the one who destroyed our marriage and hurt our children for life.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

The H (or W) and the AP are BOTH betrayers and both are betraying the married spouse and kids. Riding shotgun counts.

Sorry no. The AP has no loyalty to the spouse who most likely they have never met. The wronged spouse was betrayed by one person, their spouse.

This thread is so funny. So many people trying redirect fault. Whatever helps you get through the day.

It's not binary. It can be the fault of both cheating spouse *and* the affair partner. Even if it's more the fault of the cheating spouse, that doesn't mean the affair partner is somehow not a piece of shit who is hurting someone.

I guess we need to agree to disagree sweetie. If my spouse were to have an affair, the I would not feel harmed by their affair partner or feel the AP was at fault in anyway. It would be 100% the fault of my cheating spouse.

+1. It has happened to me. Do I think the OW is a selfish a**hole? Yes. She suuuucks. But the anger I feel at her does not compare to the pain and trauma of being betrayed by my ex-husband. He’s the one that lied to me, over and over again. He’s the one that came into our marital bed and exposed me to whatever diseases she could have had while I trusted him. He’s the one who destroyed our marriage and hurt our children for life.

I think people are agreeing and not understanding one another on this thread.

People are always angry at their spouse. They hold them accountable. It doesn't mean that they like the OW/OM. They likely think they are a disgusting piece of pathetic, crap. And, based on the OW responses on this thread of thinking of nobody but themselves, pretty accurate.

But the one whose feet are held to the fire is the spouse. She/he is not important. They would have and could have been literally anyone. Nothing special there.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh. I was the other woman once. I regret it. It was harmful and stupid and I would never do it again. But I can't understand why anyone would stay married to such an ass.[b]

I can't understand why anyone would marry such a low character woman who lacks integrity like you. Touche

Well. My admission of a dumb thing I did decades ago on an anonymous internet forum seems to have hit you in the feels. I stand by my statement.

Only stupid APs use the phrase "the feels". Barf

HA. So true

And "Babe". "Hey Babe". These types are all the same.

And talk about their marriages as 'their situation'. God- such incredible losers with their AP lingo.

They learn this lingo on their nasty cheating websites and forums.

And their 'special OPS' and 'mutual destruction', etc. A bunch of scumbags that know the special scumbag--speak.

Situation? It's called a: marriage. JFC

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

Keep on performing those mental gymnastics. There isn't a sliding scale. Oh wow---they aren't doing something to damage their own kids or spouse---just someone else's. Phew--that's a relief.

You really are sick in the head.

Here's something, do better. How about trying not to lack character or do harm at any level?

Do you try to avoid doing harm at any level? Or do you just feel that, in the proportion of the huge harm you believe cheaters and APs do, any harm you do is insignificant?

Harm people? Yes. I 100% try to avoid it. I also teach my kids the same thing.

I'm not going to steal, rob or cheat. I'm not going to gossip or cut in line or falsify documents. I'm not going to take food from someone else.

You know the simple adage: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It's the Golden Rule.

Ok, so all the ranting about calling some woman’s boss and colleagues wasn’t you. Sorry it’s hard to keep posters straight sometimes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Same reason people don't wear masks and get vaccinated during a pandemic. Their "freedom" is more important than the impact of their actions on third parties.

Adultery should be illegal and more severally punished

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

Keep on performing those mental gymnastics. There isn't a sliding scale. Oh wow---they aren't doing something to damage their own kids or spouse---just someone else's. Phew--that's a relief.

You really are sick in the head.

Here's something, do better. How about trying not to lack character or do harm at any level?

Do you try to avoid doing harm at any level? Or do you just feel that, in the proportion of the huge harm you believe cheaters and APs do, any harm you do is insignificant?

Harm people? Yes. I 100% try to avoid it. I also teach my kids the same thing.

I'm not going to steal, rob or cheat. I'm not going to gossip or cut in line or falsify documents. I'm not going to take food from someone else.

You know the simple adage: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It's the Golden Rule.

Ok, so all the ranting about calling some woman’s boss and colleagues wasn’t you. Sorry it’s hard to keep posters straight sometimes.

Not me. Believe or not there are many people that find banging married people objectionable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Same reason people don't wear masks and get vaccinated during a pandemic. Their "freedom" is more important than the impact of their actions on third parties.

Adultery should be illegal and more severally punished

I agree with you.

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s 2022 and we’re done blaming women for the transgressions of men. What an affair partner does is not good, but they’re not the one breaking their vows, taking away their spouses informed consent, and harming their children.

+1

They have no vows. If the man is chearing, it's on him. Not the woman. JFC, it's not the 1800s, stop placing the blame on women.

How about we say man gets 70% of the blame and the woman gets 30%?
I’m intentionally being ridiculous. The point is that “blame” is not all or nothing.

I agree with you, but the hysterics on this thread focus not on the person with a closer responsibility to his wife and children, but to someone else.

Another way to view it is imagine a situation where the wife needs a kidney transplant. The husband and a female friend of his are both perfect matches for her. If the husband refuses to save his wife’s life, that is a much bigger dick move than if a female friend refuses to save his wife’s life, even though of course it would be good of her to help his wife, he has the obligation, she does not.

And the judges award her: 10.0!!! Outstanding performance in mental gymnastics.

There are no hysterics. There are just a bunch of people stating that 'good' people don't have affairs with married people. This obviously upsets you.

NP. Nobody is saying APs are moral or right. They’re not betraying anyone, except maybe their own self-respect. They’re not hurting anyone that they have made vows to. They are not damaging their own children whom they have an obligation to protect. It’s not right. But it is not the same level of wrong that is being unfaithful to your spouse and family.

Keep on performing those mental gymnastics. There isn't a sliding scale. Oh wow---they aren't doing something to damage their own kids or spouse---just someone else's. Phew--that's a relief.

You really are sick in the head.

Here's something, do better. How about trying not to lack character or do harm at any level?

Do you try to avoid doing harm at any level? Or do you just feel that, in the proportion of the huge harm you believe cheaters and APs do, any harm you do is insignificant?

Harm people? Yes. I 100% try to avoid it. I also teach my kids the same thing.

I'm not going to steal, rob or cheat. I'm not going to gossip or cut in line or falsify documents. I'm not going to take food from someone else.

You know the simple adage: do unto others as you would have them do unto you. It's the Golden Rule.

Ok, so all the ranting about calling some woman’s boss and colleagues wasn’t you. Sorry it’s hard to keep posters straight sometimes.

DP. That wouldn’t be necessary. Whores are pretty easy to spot. The instructor at my studio is a rampant one. I thought so before I even was told her back story of numerous affairs.